Dear Inside Out Orange,
thanks for sharing your experience, and for the kind words.
Did you feel a tremendous relief when Pluto exited your 8H? I SO have my fingers for that day
gemastro
I did look at things quite darkly and cynically. I did try to analyse everything and everyone. I guess that became the background of life and you just come to accept it as the way you are. It's only as it changed that I suddenly felt everything became lighter and realised what I'd been experiencing.
has anyone experienced Saturn conjuct Pluto before? if so, what were your experiences?....this does not sound like a fun transit.
has anyone experienced Saturn conjuct Pluto before? if so, what were your experiences?.
I think the weak point of my chart is Sagittarius in the second and therefore any planet that goes through this sign/house.
In 1998 I started a three year degree course. In september of that year when the course began pluto was at five degrees of sag. Quite literally I had walked into a **** storm. I was insulted left right and centre. No matter what I did it was always viewed by others as aggressive. Stories were passed around and embellished just to prove the point. I spoke to few people as few people would speak to me. as one wit put it "guilt by association". It was not just the university It was the whole town and area. I would walk into shops and it would be "just when you thought it could not get any worse" or "I should I know what he wants this for he probably want to clean his teeth with it". People would openly talk about me and openly insult me. It was particularly intense and particularly damaging.
I still live in the same place. I have not been able to escape. Its like I am doing time until I have payed my debt to society. Having said this it is not any where near as bad now. Lessons have been learned on both sides. They know that if they have a go at me I will have a go at them back. They don't like that. And I have learned to keep a low profile, so they can resist temptation.
But you can see from my chart that in many ways it is about attack and counter attack, and at the time this was being intensely activated by pluto t-squaring my big opposition that included natal pluto.
All the best
I'd appreciate it if anyone who's been through the midlife Saturn opposite Saturn transit would be willing to share their insights and experiences. According to Astro.com, I will be starting mine this September...and as if that weren't enough, my natal Saturn is the point planet of one of the natal yods in my chart so transiting Saturn will activate that as well. (I suppose I should be grateful for the fact that it won't last more than a couple of years.) Quite frankly, I'm dreading this because I'm already up to my armpits in difficult transits. I'm in the final stages of my Uranus opposite Uranus transit, Pluto is still opposing the stellium of planets I have in the last degrees of Gemini -- Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Mars -- and Uranus is squaring the stellium at the same time. I will be so relieved when all of this is *finally* over and my life starts to settle down a little.
Do these transits have a natal echo?? i.e those planets make natal aspects as well?? If not, then no biggie at all.Hi All.... I wanted to share these hairy transits....
At the moment 3 planets are making contact with three of my natal planets.
1. Transiting Saturn is conjunct natal Uranus in Leo in 12th.
2. Transiting Uranus is conjunct natal Moon in Pisces in 7th.
3 Transiting Pluto is opposite natal Venus, the latter residing in Gemini in 10th.
I can't wrap my brain round it.
Just in case you need this ....
My natal info is (I'll post my chart when I figure out how to do it!!) 30 July 1961 35N59 014E15 at 7:30 am CET
I have my own thoughts in a nutshell about it of course.... the Uranus/Moon to my mind has been all about changing emotional patterns. The Pluto/Venus I think is about challenges from the home front which affect my career. The Saturn/Uranus could be about restraint or even possibly bringing structure to creative zany aspirations which have been hidden in the 12th.
My life has been challenging over the past 18 months, but nothing drastic; I can cope.
What do you think?
Sisi x
That is an interesting perspective on saturn's modest impact versus pluto's totally annihilating effects. I think my recollections of saturn's potential to unleash devastation and despair are amplified by that May 2002 transiting saturn/pluto opposition (10 & 4th houses) that t-squared my natal sun (2nd house). It took me a couple years to recover from the events of that and truthfully, I may not have fully let go. I've always associated the damage with saturn as it was bearing on my 10th house but in retrospect, the deeper psychological shifts implicated pluto in my 4th.The hairiest transits of all are Pluto transits angular to Asc/1st house planets. After that I'd say Uranus' angular transits. Neptune let's you work things out subtlely and test the quality of your thoughts. Uranus will change the dynamic of your relationships and you may find yourself running into more than what you thought you were asking for.
The most important thing to do with major Pluto transits is just survive, drawing on more inside. Look back when its over (5 yrs total) and see what you learned.
Saturn transits by themselves aren't especially 'hairy' unless reinforced by an outer planet, unless transiting Asc/MC. In the book Planets in Transit, Robert Hand mistakenly attributes former Pres Richard Nixon's downfall (Watergate scandal) to Saturn transiting his MC/square his Asc. Actually it was t.Pluto opposite Nixon's correct n.MC that brought him down so to speak. Saturn only challenges us modestly. Pluto can dethrone you. It is a king-maker or killer.
Nixon Asc [19CAN52] - MC [6ARI24].
Pluto [4LIB53] at resignation speech (8 Aug 1974, 21:05 EDT), opposite his Asc, reinforced by a trine from t.Neptune, quincunx from t.Mars, trine from t.Mercury, while t.Saturn [21N15] was Parallel n.Asc [21N58] .
No other astrologer that I know of caught this at the time. Maybe John Willner had already discerned Nixon's correct chart by then. I don't know.
Just shows the importance of working with a correct chart.
See my posts on Asc signs, etc.
All in all life's interesting times for anyone with planets in early cardinal signs ... yourself included.
You've also got Uranus transitting from 0Aries making squares to your early cardinal planets. All in all the grand cross hits your chart quite prominently with Mars also due to arrive in early Libra with Saturn in a week or so.
You can also look at Chiron (29Aq) / Neptune (28Aq) making trines to your Jupiter in early Cancer so that's quite a spiritual aspect.