What zodiac archetypes form the perfect couples?

theM said:

@waybread
I know that synastry is far more complicated.
But this is just a thought experiment or something like that.
It's just about:
Which zodiac sign archetypes love each other the most?
Which complement and need each other to be a whole unity?

I don't know if we find zodiac sign couples like that but I feel that it's possible.



Blessings,
M.

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Unfortunately, I don't think it works this way. The closest I can come to it is a sort of Mother Earth/Father Sky dichotemy that you see with most Indo-European cultures. In traditional western astrology, then, earth and water signs are female and air and fire signs are male.

Trouble is, unless you get out-of-sign sextiles, conjunctions, or trines in the very early or late degrees of a sign, you aren't going to get harmonious aspects between the female and male signs. And some astrologers disallow out-of-sign aspects.

Some astrologers say that to fully express the potential of a given sign, we need to incorporate the energies of the opposite sign. Fair enough, but then opposite signs would invariable be male-male or female-female.

A zodiac sign cannot "love each other the most." Signs are basically 30-degree pie-sectors of the heavens. People can love each other, but we're more complicated than arbitrarily assigned zones in the sky. You won't find in western astrology, to the best of my knowledge, the idea that Sign A and Sign B "need each other to be a whole unity." Signs in a human life might express themselves well or poorly, but there is no sense that they'd be better off if they externalized anything internally lacking to some other sign.

You might have better luck with Chinese astrology, as many Asian cultures have the yin-yang ideas as part of their religious traditions.

I fear this may be an exercise in trying to put a square peg into a round hole.

@waybread

Yes, the Mother Earth/Father Sky dichotemy is excatly the thing that I search.
I search zodiac signs that act like
Mother Earth/ Father Sky
King/Queen
Cold/Warm
Day/Night
These are contrasts that need each other to be a whole.

waybread said:

Trouble is, unless you get out-of-sign sextiles, conjunctions, or trines in the very early or late degrees of a sign, you aren't going to get harmonious aspects between the female and male signs. And some astrologers disallow out-of-sign aspects.
Some astrologers say that to fully express the potential of a given sign, we need to incorporate the energies of the opposite sign. Fair enough, but then opposite signs would invariable be male-male or female-female.

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Maybe the oppositions are what I search like I said but as you I mention they have the same polarity.
Yes,that is the difficulty cause in conventional astrology there don't exist any aspects between masculine and feminine signs that are harmonious .
But why is that so?
Why are these signs called feminine or masculine but yet can't build harmonious aspects?
In the whole nature the active Masculine and the passive Feminine are mutually dependent.

waybread said:

A zodiac sign cannot "love each other the most." Signs are basically 30-degree pie-sectors of the heavens. People can love each other, but we're more complicated than arbitrarily assigned zones in the sky. You won't find in western astrology, to the best of my knowledge, the idea that Sign A and Sign B "need each other to be a whole unity." Signs in a human life might express themselves well or poorly, but there is no sense that they'd be better off if they externalized anything internally lacking to some other sign.

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Yes,we are more complicated.
But the Yin and Yang-philosophy tells us that everything has two sides, that belong together,one masculine and one feminine.
And as this law is universal there should be always 2 signs that form a perfect couple or/and every sign has two sides in itself.

waybread said:

You might have better luck with Chinese astrology, as many Asian cultures have the yin-yang ideas as part of their religious traditions.
I fear this may be an exercise in trying to put a square peg into a round hole.

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Sometimes I am concerned with Chinese astrology but the compatibilty is really similarly build like in the Western Astrology.
I know this fear but as long as you don't try you'll never really know it.

Thank you for your nice answer.
Yours sincerely,
theM

Vagabondgirl said:

My grandparents kept together for life. She is Leo Sun and Moon, he was Sagittarius Sun and Scorpio Moon. Also they have Mercury-Mercury trine and Venus-Mars trine.

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Thanks for this information.Trines should be very harmonious.
But I still that they are the perfect friendship because there are 3 signs in every element.
Maybe your grandparents had something in their charts that they complement each other.

If you want you can also write which archetypes you think fit the best.

Blessings,
M

I dont know if there are any special Solar archetypes.... But I get the impression that conjunctions and oppositions are mentioned as important aspects in synastry. And the AC, Sun, Moon are important parts of our identity. So these conjunct or opposit another persons AC/Sun/Moon. Could also be conjunction/opposition by sign, not only pure aspects within orbs Ive heard.....Many astrologers mention any major aspects between Sun-Moon are important, like: Sextile, trine, opposition, conjunction, square. And that there should be some amounts of friction (oppositions/squares) and not ONLY easy aspects, which would point more to friendship than love relationship.

You could compare the love relationships to for example synastry with close family members, which also are important and long-lasting. Usually there are alot of contacts with planets with your family members. I see this with my dad (who raised us alone) has alot of squares, oppositions and conjunctions with my chart. Our father-daughter relationship was not easy, but I see that it was quite important for our development. And today we have a good relationship, despite all the squares and oppositions in the chart. The synastry really looks terrible indeed

I think that in relationships in general its important to give and take from it. You learn something and you teach something back about things in your character etc. Trines/Sextiles are things that you maybe already agree about, natural affinity. But Squares and oppositions lets you grow and learn

My grandmother is Leo and grandfather sagittarius. Also I have another friend who has the same combination where she is leo and he is sagittarius. So Im voting for this

theM, I think you have to understand the yin-yan philosophy as coming out of a particular eastern cultural tradition. Although this tradition posits yin-yang as universal in nature, other cultural traditions do not.

Trying to fit western astrology--which developed with a very different set of cultural assumptions--into a yin-yang model is a Procrustean Bed sort of problem.

Certainly traditional western astrology posits some important "opposites" but it doesn't see them as needing one another in order to effect some kind of completion. In traditional astrology, signs and planets are not only encoded as masculine or feminine, but also as diurnal and nocturnal, cold or hot, moist or dry. But that is just what they are. Putting a moist and dry planet together doesn't improve them any, unless improvements are otherwise indicated by non-polarity kinds of placements. I can't think of any sense in which, if you combine planets or signs in certain ways, you get a whole that is better than its two halves. They may benefit one another, but that's about it.

Planets are seen to be stronger in signs that reflect their basic nature, leading to the western system of dignities and exaltations. Signs and planets whose aspects are part of the two-series (oppositions, squares, semi-squares) are seen as disharmonious.

In western astrology, planets and signs simply are what they are, and opposites do not attract.

Dear waybread,

I can understand your opinion cause it's based on the general astrology.
But when I read it I just felt that it's not exactly true.
I mean no harm.It's just that my inner feeling,my heart tells me that Yin/Yang is a universal law.I feel that opposites attract because they are searching for these things that are missing.It's the same with magnets.
I search complementary opposites like two sides of the same coin.
I feel that there is solution for my question.

Maybe Fire/Air and Water/Earth are the right choices.
Maybe it has something to do with classical astrology where masculine and feminine signs were not just incompatible.
A classical astrologer told me that the zodiac signs with the same ruling planets,the Antiscion and Contra-Antiscion were regarded as compatible.
I know the today's synastry rules but sometimes for me it's hard to imagine cause if you put two masculine signs together they are both active and if you put two feminine signs together they are both passive.

I would say that a communicative person needs a listener and a soft person needs a strong person.
Do you know what I mean?
Maybe the oppositions have enough similarities/differences but for me it's hard to imagine that the manly Fire would like the almost androgynous Air or the .
Again I'm speaking about archetypes.

But these are just my feelings/thoughts.Maybe I could be wrong.
Maybe Earth/Water and Fire/Air are the right combinations.

A topic like this one is good place to get to know different opinions of different people.I love that.Thanks.
If you have any ideas then feel free to express them.

Blessings,
M.

theM...VERY GOOD!
Again, I refer you to what I wrote about the polarities earlier...in that the Universe is constructed as like the Yin-Yang symbol...just because it isn't in contemporary Occidental astrology...that doesn't mean it wasn't at one time when Astrology was completely understood and used correctly...which I believe is the case.
Truth is Truth...regardless of what part of the World you find your self in....look for the Truths in all systems and let go of the rest.

theM: Well, how can I argue with your "inner feeling, your heart"? But suppose my "inner feeling, my heart" tells me something different? And a third person's "inner feelings and heart" say something different, yet again? Where does this get us?

As you study more astrology, perhaps you will come to a different understanding of its own unique perspectives. Or just possibly, if you stick to your beliefs about yin and yang--evidence about astrology notwithstanding--you may conclude that astrology cannot be correct because it does not conform to the yin-yang principles as expressed in eastern religions.

After all, many sensible people conclude that astrology doesn't work.

I own several books on classical astrology (Ptolemy, Manilius, Maternus, Rhetoreus, Dorotheus, plus Al Biruni and a recent textbook on traditional astrology) and more sources are on-line, at least in excerpted form. Would you like me to quote them for you?

I personally disagree with the premise that something is incomplete without its other half. This boils down to dualism, which I find unnecessary and oftentimes unhelpful. But I am not here to dissuade you, apart from astrology.

You might enjoy reading Carl Jung and his disciples on archetypes, the animus and anima. Basically each human being has these polarities within us, and it may be our life's work to reconcile them internally.

Although in a chart it is tempting to pair up sun-moon and Venus-Mars, in a horoscope, these might be in the same signs, modalities, or placed in stressful aspects. But if you find some clear evidence to the contrary, let us know.

In real life, each individual should be a good communicator as well as a good listener. Each individual should develop both strengths and adaptive sensitivies. The idea that things are incomplete or inferior on their own without being matched up with something else has a long history, and some of it is not wonderful.

Dear Waybread,

To the inner feeling:
I just can say that I trust my intuition because it guides me through my life.
I feel it's like a connection with divine knowledge/with God itself that everyone has and I try to develop it through my life.
Sometimes it's stronger,sometimes weaker.
I don't know where this get us but I just can speak for me.

I study astrology more or less for 12 years since my late childhood.
I feel that the yin-yang principles are expressed in everything.
In us humans,in the nature,in the day and in Astrology,of course.
The evidence for me is that we have masculine/active/diurnal and feminine/passive/nocturnal signs.

Yes,many sensible people conclude that Astrology doesn't work.
Cause they are so sensible that they lost the connection to their intuition.
I have so many evidences for me.I guessed rising signs ,sun signs and sometimes moon signs right.
I don't say it to show-off cause I also guessed many times wrong and then I said: Oh,I was (almost) on the right track but then I got confused or I was totally surprised.It's just for the fact.

But finally the chart was always right.Sometimes I didn't know people very well and I said :Moon in Scorpio e.g. - really? But some weeks/months later I got the evidence-situations that proved the traits indicated in the birth chart.

To the classical books/texts:
If you have some excerpts that say something interesting about compatibilty then it would be good for me/us as information.
I just read a bit Ptolemy,Manilius some time ago.And from time to time I have conversations with a classical astrologer like I said in another forum in German language.

To Carl Jung:
I also have some german astrology books written by astrologers who were influenced by his theories.
I personally love the anima/animus concept and it definitely has something to do with the solution to this topic.

To the dualism:
And yes sure,we shall develop us to listen and communicate,to be independent and see our individual strength but nevertheless in a partnership we need a complementary partner that matches to us and that gives us valuable impulses so that we can learn from.
I think that trines and sextiles are the best for friendships but I'm not really sure if these are the best aspects for partnership.
I feel that everything has two sides and that there are dual souls that means that everyone has a partner soul to whom we are eternally connected.
However we should be also lucky and strong on our own.
I see partnership as a kind of "voluntary" enrichment.

Do you know what I mean?

This is just my personal opinion about that.


Blessings,
M.

theM: I can argue that my intuition, inner feelings, and heart say that my views are correct; that your pursuit is misguided; and that my contact with the divine is stronger than your contact with the divine. Never mind looking at facts, evidence, and applying reason. But where does this get us? It simply isn't any kind of a basis for analysing what is or is not in western astrology.

Sorry for the irony.

Of course I understand what you mean. I simply disagree with it.

I don't think you are going to find yin-yang in western astrology--unless it is in some very recent esoteric material that does not have a firm basis in western astrological roots. For one thing, until fairly recently, astrologers in the West had only limited contact with eastern philosophies, and by the time they learned more about them, astrology had become pretty well set. Possibly some recent astrologers who are trying to synthesize different belief systems will have something. Nowadays some astrologers try to link astrology to Jewish mysticis, tarot, mythology of non-astrological culture, and runes, and probably other metaphysical systems I've missed. Some of these efforts have merit, some don't.

In all seriousness, good luck with your quest.

@waybread

I know that this was irony but just for a better understanding:For me facts and evidences are important otherwise I wouldn't open a topic like that.And I intuition/mind is not better/worse than others.I simply can speak for myself.
I just try to balance my intellect and my intuition because they are equally necessary.I think this is a special task for today's humanity.

For me it's okay that you disagree.Everyone has his/her opinion as it's indicated in our charts that we are all unique.We all have different paths and sometimes we cross someone else's path and we learn from each other.This is a precious experience.
We just can learn from different views.

Thank you for the good luck.Possibly I have even found the solution.
Because besides the oppositions I have another idea what the ideal couples could be.
But I wait till maybe someone else comes off with the idea or till I'm really sure.

Wish you all the best,
the M

Understood, M.

Maybe I am prejudiced because there are too many examples of people who go on their "intuition", "heart", "inner feelings" or what-have-you; and either they are wrong in ways that harm other people, or they get deceived by someone else.

When my husband and I had tenants, we once had a family where the father talked about "heart" people (good) vs. "head" people (bad), and ran his family of young children as though he were the invincible patriarch of a religious cult. He was deeply religious and believed he operated under divine guidance. He is now in jail serving time for molesting his children, and they got fostered out to other families. Turns out his inner guidance led to some fairly awful behaviour.

We can think of so many examples in history: Germany under National Socialism, Jonestown in Guyana, the Branch Davidians in Texas, jihadists, and some of the fundamentalist Mormon sects in the US where people followed their "hearts" instead of their "heads", with disastrous results to a lot of innocent people.

I am not saying you are like this: you seem like a nice person and there are wonderful things to be said about eastern religious beliefs. Merely that I remain sceptical of personal "inner feelings" as a basis for confounding a lot of evidence.

If I were to put an astrological face on all of this, I would call it Neptune. Neptune doesn't deal with reality but with illusion/disillusionment, fantasy, and a kind of ungrounded mysticism. Neptune shows that something we thought was real is not real, and something we disbelieved is true after all. The trouble is, there is no way to tell which is which.

I am leaving this discussion for now.

Cheers, W.

While my opinion on this matter may be very silly, I'm just going at this to the best understandment of the OP. What I think he/she is asking is that if the Signs were incorprated as a whole, with no flaws, or imperfections (in other words "pure signs"), which signs would go best in a Yin-Yang sort of manner. Masculine with Feminine, so-to-speak.

Well since I understand Western Astrology, and know that Western doesn't have a basis for Yin and Yang, but rather Degrees, Polarities and Apsects to determine these things. I am going to take a more Eastern View.

Basically if we were to look at it like the Easterns do, the signs that form a Yin-Yang couple would be 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8, 9-10 and 11-12. The signs on the other "side" form friction or tension, which would be 12-1, 2-3, 4-5, 6-7, 8-9 and 10-11.

Basically speaking that - while taking an Eastern View and incorporating it into the Western Zodiac - the Signs Aries and Taurus would form a Yin-Yang Couple, while the Signs Aries and Pisces would form a sort of Master-Slave sort of relationship. Which means that Taurus being a Feminine sign may get along better with Aries, than say Pisces, a feminine sign as well, but on a different level. (Pretty sure this isn't the way it works, but I just threw it out there since you wanted to know if a Yin-Yang bond could be formed between the Positive and Negative signs).

I still have to question the usefulness of generalising these relationships instead of seeing them in context. I don't think archetypes necessarily have any predisposition toward each other. People do. Beyond that, some people show their chart well, while others refuse their own birth persuasions. Astrological qualities are given at birth to orchestrate the learning of the entity throughout life. A Cancer Sun has the potential to become a better nurturer than most others, but also has the potential to become a tyrant and abuser, almost demonic in behaviour. The archetype provides the context of development, but the individual provides the content. That is to say that astrological factors within an individual may direct the form of a life, but what happens in that life is up to the person living it. Therefore, it is the individual that is the most important (and most flexible) factor in the whole mix.

When this type of view is adopted, it becomes apparent that each planet and its placement can be used in a number of ways. I feel compelled to comment on the recent mention of Neptune, because that is one close to my heart in this sojourn. In my natal chart, Neptune is conjunct the SgrA* (galactic centre) and is separated by 0.03 degrees. According to my experience, Neptune is crucially important, especially in this age of information. Neptune fills my head with fantasies and illusions. Thus, throughout my life, I have had to work extra hard to learn how to see through the illusions. Because of this, my ability to cut through bullsh** is much sharper than average. In this sojourn, Neptune has taught me how to tell the difference between an illusion and reality. So, the effect of a planet is entirely dependent upon the use of its influences by the individual. I could have spent an entire lifetime cloaked in these illusions and doubts. Neptune taught me to desire Truth more than anything else. Truth is the one concept in my life that I have always regarded as sacred. Nothing else have I respected so much, even Love (I'm sad to admit). This is why Neptune is called "the Mystic." It teaches one to cut through the veil that stops most eyes.

As to Yin and Yang, this is the order of the dualistic universe in which we find ourselves. It is not the Great and Ultimate Truth, but it is true for us as long as we are subject to it. It is a manifestation of the Law of Attraction; one facet of the Universal Pattern. Dualism is obviously real (given that chemistry works) and we are subject to it as long as we live in this world of concrete matter. There are other worlds of matter. Then there are worlds beneath matter, more fundamental. I think the most important part is the realisation that we, as creators, children of the One Creator, include all levels of existence. This is ultimately why astrology works. It is a system of describing what is already within us.

What I would like you to take away from this, even if you forget everything else I've said, is this: The Truth is greater than any description or manifestation of Itself.

@waybread
Thank you for your kind answer.
Sadly,you made some bad experiences.God bless these children.
Now I can understand your feelings better.
Yes,it's sad that the extreme of intuition or intellect has shown fatal outcomes in the past.Therefore it's so important to balance the two sides and never fall in one extreme.For me all people are equal but unfortunately some have lost themselves in evil ways like crime,for example.I wish that they can reform cause I believe that no baby is born evil.
That is the reason why a birth chart is neutral- no chart is better or worse.We just have so many possibilities.
Let's just hope the best.

Yes,I have Neptune in 12th house,the house of Pisces/Neptune.
So maybe this explains my intuitive experiences partially.Maybe.
I have some planets in water houses,too.

And I agree.Noone can prove that his or her intuition is right,but I just made the topic to learn and to gain experience about my question.

@Mark
I can understand your doubts about the relationships between the archetyes.I still think that there are signs/Element that act Yin-Yang like.But it's okay if you have another opinion,of course.
And yes,truth is also for me an important fact in life.
I think that often truth is in the middle way of different opinions.
Truth is where you feel love.
Thanks for your answer.I like your writing style.
I still have to improve my English a lot.

@SniperBomber328
Thank you for the idea,some months ago I have read it,too.
This could be a good choice.I definitely will think about it again.
Thanks for your help.


If someone else has a good idea/assignment then just post it.

But now I'm tired.
Thanks and good night.
Wish u all good dreams.
the M

...the 'Yin-Yang' s symbolism not a part of 'Occidental [Western] Astrology'?
I believe it was known as an essential Part of it in ancient times...[again, as to the arrangement I propose is the correct one.] ...perhaps the rise of Male dominance politically, academically and everything else that Male Chauvinism chose to 're-write, re-interpret...etc'. Perhaps a conspiracy [either deliberate in subterfuge or out of mis-guided/ or erroneously understood effort that succeeded in re-writing the knowledge not by being correct but by being the most influential or more likely more forceful.] Maybe some men decided they didn't like the idea that there are Feminine Signs that were thought, or even recognized, to be 'Positive polarity' as that empowered Women ...or at least gave them the idea they could be an active, instigating and [Oh, heaven forbid...] even a dominant force in all matters of life as are the men [...as it was in those times.... and, this reminds me of the matter of the word 'Murder' being changed to 'Kill' in the Ten Commandments by King James...which {in my opinion...but an opinion I can't be dissuaded from.} was not an innocent error of translation but rather a deliberate ploy by King James to further subdue his citizenry...as, it greatly reduced any potential threats of armed resistance to anything the 'Crown' wished to impose upon them.] ...I believe the same sort of thing probably happened with what was known about Astrology. As so very very few people could read or write for thousands of years since the fall from the last Satya Yuga, it would be an agenda, if not easily accomplished, that was easily perpetuated once it had been accomplished.
Again, I urge you to think about the very words Tesla is reputed to have said to his brother in Europe when he got the inspiration/idea/revelation of how 'electrical current' should be generated ..."Edisons' Direct Current Generator design is unnatural and there for inefficient. It must be constructed in accordance with the true nature of the universe around us." [ I no longer have my books on Tesla or the 'Yugoslavian' [at the time of it's making] produced movie about Mr. Tesla's life...in which all events, conversations...etc...are presented as are to have been known to have occurred...and that had been attested to by corroboration of others.
It still remains in Occidental Astrology because "IT IS" ...as..it is the very fabric of every thing in Astronomy/Astro -Physics...etc....Everything! [As Above - So, Below. ...The Macro - The Meso - The Micro. ... Above - On - Below] The very cycle of Day-Night on Earth... The very phases of the Moon..Waxing [to Full Moon]-Waning [to New Moon]...the Seasons...Spring/Summer-Fall/Winter...the present arrangement of the rulership of the signs by the planets [either the present system or the system I propose is correct]...in that each Planet rules a sign that is Negative polarity and rules a sign that is Positive polarity.
It brings to mind an incident when I was barely out of H.S. and a buddy of mine had bought an old used car that the previous owner had for many years. He went to get the tires replaced and wanted new ones that were the same as the ones that came with the car. The Tire dealer told him that they were the wrong size as even the wheels themselves were not the right ones for that car. My friend insisted that the tires had to be the right ones as 'That's what came with the car'! [there were in fact three different sized tires on that old car...as the previous owner was a very old man on a very limited income and had apparently utilized whatever would 'get him by']
I have nothing more to add or say on this matter.

I'll try to restate my original point in the clearest way possible. My previous post should explain this one. If the individuals which represent the signs are well developed, they would all get along well in any combination. If those individuals are poorly developed, they would all get along poorly in any combination. Cancer and Sagittarius can get along well or terribly. Aries and Leo can get along well or terribly. Pick any two signs and the way that they work together will depend on the individuals, not the signs. This is Universal Truth, for it is the Law of God that Will is the strongest force in the Earth. If you would like, I would refer you to the late Edgar Cayce on this matter. No astrological influence can surpass the Will that people are free to apply in their own lives. The sign Cancer might push your development toward close friends and family, but you are the one who determines whether you become a nurturer or torturer of your own friends and family. We really do have that much power because it was given to us.

@piercethevale
The idea that there are feminine signs in the active polarity is interesting.
I will think about it- it could help.Thanks.

@Mark
Yes,I also think that our free will is a strong force and like I said a birth chart is neutral so it's logical that each zodiac sign can be expressed in a good or bad way.
I think that the 12 zodiac signs are 12 faces of God but nevertheless I personally think that each zodiac sign has a different relationship to the others.Some are similar thinking like friends,others are complementary like lovers and so on.
Don't be angry with me.It's just my opinion.

Greetings,
M.

Well, I guess I do have "one" more thing to say after all... my "proposed' birth chart for Jesus/Yeshua shows that He had completely acquiesced [from all indications] to those forces*...which is the imprint given you by the Creator...makes ya think!

* as my yogi buddy, Suryakant, said about the chart..."When you become fully realized, as a spiritual being, you acquiesce to God's Will."

I believe Cayce said what he did because as to the form, techniques and knowledge, of Astrology as it was practiced in that time...and pretty much still is, for that matter...thus it was not something he could empower...or, if he was 'channeling' [as He was, occasionally, known to have been subject to...and was verified, as to subsequent questions on that particular matter]... then it should be said, " 'They' would allow to be empowered at that time."

Mark said:

I'll try to restate my original point in the clearest way possible. My previous post should explain this one. If the individuals which represent the signs are well developed, they would all get along well in any combination. If those individuals are poorly developed, they would all get along poorly in any combination. Cancer and Sagittarius can get along well or terribly. Aries and Leo can get along well or terribly. Pick any two signs and the way that they work together will depend on the individuals, not the signs. This is Universal Truth, for it is the Law of God that Will is the strongest force in the Earth. If you would like, I would refer you to the late Edgar Cayce on this matter. No astrological influence can surpass the Will that people are free to apply in their own lives. The sign Cancer might push your development toward close friends and family, but you are the one who determines whether you become a nurturer or torturer of your own friends and family. We really do have that much power because it was given to us.

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Yes of course, but there playing with archetypes is still interesting, or categorizing (gemini).. this it is often used in astrology, for example in country astrology: Government, people etc (here it is more the houses). So, for example you have the sun, as the king then it is intersting to see it together with Uranus the Joker(in the sense of "fool", in a positive way) or with pluto- the magician or with Moon the Queen etc..Just to difference..
it is kind of CG Jung based.