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Unread 11-30-2018, 05:16 AM
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Why am I so obsessed with my looks?

This is such a long topic with so many twists and turns so.... I am going to try my best to make this super short and not bore people or give my fingertips the ultimate typing workout.

OK, so, I'm kind of obsessed with my physical appearance... It matters to me a lot. Way more then the average person, even in this super superficial/materialistic/social media "selfie" time in the world.

Anyway, I was the fat middle child as a kid. I never thought in my life that I could ever be attractive. Looking back, I wasn't that ugly, just fat, with hamster cheeks lol. When I was like 12-13, I lost the weight by starving myself. The results were shocking. Behind the fat was a super gorgeous (my Fire placements have to be honest, gosh) face, these intense sexy eyes that you barely noticed from the facial fat and this super lean hot bod. lol! I was like oh my God... I remember thinking, I never in my life thought that I could ever look like that. It was shocking and the transformation was so sudden because the weight just flew off. And by the time I got to Grade 10, I re-peaked again and honestly it was like a Disney channel movie or something, fat middle child as a kid becomes super hot and is getting a whole other kind of attention.

Long story short, fell into some bad habits in High School, had somewhat of a mental breakdown overtime, bad diet turned into a really bad eating disorder... And this made my eating disorder worst... I was so unhealthy and nutrient deficient that try to imagine this thin person with a super bloated face. Even if I'd eat the smallest amount of anything, my system would not be able to digest it, my stomach would blow up and my face would pretty much just stay extremely bloated like I just came out facial plastic surgery 3-4 days out of the week. And the stupid me thought "oh my God, my face is getting fat, this means I have to push my diet even harder!...." And it just got worst and worst.

Cut to a few years later, I'm sober, I'm recovering from the eating disorder, gained a huge amount of weight because whatever food I ate my body would store because it would be in fear of going into starvation-mode again so it was quite a long time before I got my own body to trust me and actually digest food properly.

Anyway, throughout all this time I was severely and obsessively focused on my looks. To the point where the way I looked definitely determined a lot of my happiness. It wasn't only until last year where I somewhat stopped caring and had this crazy year of just not really caring about anything and drinking a lot. But to be honest, even though I've been getting back into the process of how I want to look since like the end of August (after all these bumps in the road and putting this on hold time and time again - physical health/mental health/addiction/etc), and I'm not THAT obsessive about it.... But honestly, I still would not want to live life or could not live life being happy if I didn't have control over the way I physically looked.

And I am not sure why but my physical appearance plays a huge role in my state of happiness. It is super, super important to me and I am not sure why because at the core of me, I know it shouldn't really matter but it does. Anyone know why based off my chart?
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Unread 11-30-2018, 07:27 AM
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Mars in Leo can have that effect. It's also your most elevated Planet, and on your M.C., which is about how you present yourself socially. You have the ability to recover from set-backs.
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Mars in Leo can have that effect. It's also your most elevated Planet, and on your M.C., which is about how you present yourself socially. You have the ability to recover from set-backs.
I'd like to add that with Pluto in the first house one tends to be obsessive, so be careful in general when something/someone attracts your attention.

The Pluto is also forming the square with your Mars in Leo. So there you go...
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Mars in Leo can have that effect. It's also your most elevated Planet, and on your M.C., which is about how you present yourself socially. You have the ability to recover from set-backs.
Oh wow, I am really starting to confuse the Ascendant and the MC's interpretations.

And thank you for the input. x
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I'd like to add that with Pluto in the first house one tends to be obsessive, so be careful in general when something/someone attracts your attention.

The Pluto is also forming the square with your Mars in Leo. So there you go...
So because of the square between Pluto and my Mars in Leo they aren't working well in a healthy way, huh?

Makes sense.

When I want something really bad, I will not stop until I get it. Even if the process is bad on my emotional/mental health. I overpush myself like crazy.
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Oh wow, I am really starting to confuse the Ascendant and the MC's interpretations.

And thank you for the input. x
There is some lack of consensus on the matter. This is how I interpret them, because it makes the most sense to me, and works for me. Both are about persona, but I see the M.C. as being social, and the Asc. as more private. A perceptive astrologer can see through the social personality and "unmask" the private. It's the difference between how you really see yourself (The Asc), and how you want others to see you (the M.C.). One good example is stand-up comedy, where a performer might be extremely extroverted on stage, but introverted and even reclusive in private. There are people in public life, like actors and politicians, who even lose touch with their private selves, and are always "on stage".
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Re: Why am I so obsessed with my looks?

In one sentence, Asc. ruler in Leo is key to obsession with looks. Nothing to do with Pluto, and little to do with Mars in Leo because Mars has, by itself, nothing to do with looks/ appearance unless it rules the Asc.
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Re: Why am I so obsessed with my looks?

Libra and Taurus are usually your fashion statements along with Pisces. They're ruled by Venus, and of course sensual, sexual, the finest foods, finest wine, finest house, finest clothes, indulgence of the five senses, materialism, and gluttony. Capricorn also loves fashion statements. Look at my body, look at my clothes, look at my shoes.



I can tell you in my younger years with Uranus in Libra, Saturn in Taurus, Moon in Taurus, and Capricorn Mercury, I was all about clothes, jewels, hair styles, make up, but of course, ha ha, well Saturn in Pisces came first and brought me a Taurus baby, and I had more fun making him look good and put him first. Uranus in Pisces came along and wiped us both out, and we've both become less materialistic, and more enlightened.



Leo can be dramatic, costumes, theatrical, but add to it, but I think Libra/Taurus/Capricorn has more weight. If you listen to them on YT when they they talk it's always focused on their physical appearance, and of course Pisces being artistic, music, and fashion.
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In one sentence, Asc. ruler in Leo is key to obsession with looks. Nothing to do with Pluto, and little to do with Mars in Leo because Mars has, by itself, nothing to do with looks/ appearance unless it rules the Asc.
This is about STRUGGLING with self-image, rather than just vanity. That suggests Mars. But, I should have noted that Mars is not only in Leo and most elevated AND on the M.C., but an Asc-ruler as well.

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This is about STRUGGLING with self-image, rather than just vanity. That suggests Mars. But, I should have noted that Mars is not only in Leo and most elevated AND on the M.C., but an Asc-ruler as well.
"I should have noted that Mars is not only in Leo"

If Mars were in Leo and Leo were on the 8th house putting perhaps Cap on the Asc., would Mars make the native "obsessed with looks" (any I am quoting the OP here). No.

You cannot use Mars in Leo as a clarification for why the native is "obsessed with (their) looks". It is because Mars rules the Asc. and the Asc. is directly related to looks. Also, Venus in the native's chart is ruled by the ruler of the Asc., Mars. Finally, ruler of the Asc. Mars is also in an aspect with Venus.

Finally, Mars on the MC and therefore elevated per se will have very little say (if any at all) in making the native obsessed with their looks, if, again, say Cap or Virgo or a sign not ruled by Mars were on the Asc.

THerefore, in this case, Mars ruling the Asc. is key to using Mars to answer the question.
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Having one's Ascendant in Scorpio isn't easy.
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Having one's Ascendant in Scorpio isn't easy.
Why is that, Sir?

You think having one's Asc. say in Leo is easier?
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Why is that, Sir?

You think having one's Asc. say in Leo is easier?
Leo Asc gives a sense of purpose. That can be challenging!
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Aquarius7000, would you say that having Sun in Aquarius presents a special problem with having Asc in Leo? I think Sun in Taurus has the hardest time with a Scorpio Asc.
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Aquarius7000, would you say that having Sun in Aquarius presents a special problem with having Asc in Leo? I think Sun in Taurus has the hardest time with a Scorpio Asc.
Well, I don't like to see any aspect/constellation in isolation.
To answer you question, though, I would say that Sun in Aquarius is in detriment, so the Asc. ruler, if Leo is on the Asc. (as is the case with me), is in detriment going by the rules.

My Sun though is free of any (other) negative aspects - no main aspects at all to the outers or Saturn.

I am not so fond of being centrestage physically in public. I don't like people staring at me. That said, if I am really honest, I don't like to be ignored either, especially if I ask and do not get a response or if I go out of the way to do something and get no acknowledgement. I guess I get that from the Leo Asc. So, whilst I don't mind the recognition/acknowledgement, I don't like physically being centrestage, if I make any sense at all.

I am giving this example of my own self in order to show that there is an internal struggle to balance things out. I have to say though that I have an introverted Cap Moon, which adds to the hitch when people notice me too much (which also comes with a leo asc. that the native gets noticed sort of automatically). I also have a great relationship with my father which also comes with a Leo Asc. if the Sun is untarnished. I am still studying the lights in detriment. I feel they are less affected than other planets in detriment.
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There is some lack of consensus on the matter. This is how I interpret them, because it makes the most sense to me, and works for me. Both are about persona, but I see the M.C. as being social, and the Asc. as more private. A perceptive astrologer can see through the social personality and "unmask" the private. It's the difference between how you really see yourself (The Asc), and how you want others to see you (the M.C.). One good example is stand-up comedy, where a performer might be extremely extroverted on stage, but introverted and even reclusive in private. There are people in public life, like actors and politicians, who even lose touch with their private selves, and are always "on stage".
Your interpretation of the MC and the ASC make so much sense for me based off my chart.

But I also have that Pluto aspecting my Leo MC and with Chiron in my 10th House my reputation took a brutal bump but it has definitely completely recovered which is an absolute miracle if you knew how damaged my reputation was at one point lol.
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Why is that, Sir?

You think having one's Asc. say in Leo is easier?
Definitely not a professional Astrologer (hence this thread), my knowledge about Astrology is pretty limited, all I can go by is personal experience when it comes to placements and stuff, and I think Leo Ascendant is a pretty awesome Ascendant sign to have. These people are usually very popular and get the kind of attention and recognition that many Leo Suns dream about. I've seen it so many times with people in my life who have this Ascendant sign.

I don't think Scorpio is a bad Ascendant to have, it really makes you learn quite a lot of very valuable lessons, but the benefits and "pay off" tend to come from this Ascendant sign years at a time... And always after a very long and tumultuous time. Nothing is handed to you here. And it can take a lifetime for a person to learn how to master that Scorpio Rising energy and channel it in a proper, balanced way. I do feel like Leo is definitely the easier Ascendant to have.
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