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Unread 07-15-2016, 09:58 PM
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Hello all!

I've been an astrologer for longer than I care to think about, but I've rather dropped out of the community in recent years. You can read a few old articles of mine by searching at
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/

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Welcome! to David

David,

Welcome to the AW Forum!

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I've been an astrologer for longer than I care to think about,
but I've rather dropped out of the community in recent years.
You can read a few old articles of mine by searching at

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/
Hello, welcome DavidMcCann
re: any of those few old articles over on Skyscript
one wonders whether your thinking on any of those topics has altered/varied slightly
or perhaps time simply validated all
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re: any of those few old articles over on Skyscript
one wonders whether your thinking on any of those topics has altered/varied slightly or perhaps time simply validated all
Not much! Of course, there was a difference between original work and the sort of thing where Deb would ring me and ask for a piece on something.

One thing that has changed is that people calling themselves traditional astrologers have become as dogmatic as the sort of people who used to criticise us as a bunch of medievalists! If you look at the articles in Traditional Astrologer, you can see that we drew the line at minor aspects and outer planets ruling signs, but we all used the outer planets when appropriate.

Our traditionalism was
> rejection of innovation based on theory rather than fact
> refusal to discard ideas just to keep up with the latest intellectual (or pseudo-intellectual) fads
> a belief that astrology had to stand on it's own feet. As Deb once wrote, "Astrology should be based on a study of astrology. No other skill, no matter how admirable, will lead to the correct interpretation of a horoscope."
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Not much! Of course, there was a difference between original work and the sort of thing where Deb would ring me and ask for a piece on something.

One thing that has changed is that people calling themselves traditional astrologers have become as dogmatic as the sort of people who used to criticise us as a bunch of medievalists! If you look at the articles in Traditional Astrologer, you can see that we drew the line at minor aspects and outer planets ruling signs,

but we all used the outer planets when appropriate.
would be interested to learn
how you all 'used outer planets appropriately'
within the context of traditional astrology

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Our traditionalism was
> rejection of innovation based on theory rather than fact
> refusal to discard ideas just to keep up with the latest intellectual (or pseudo-intellectual) fads
> a belief that astrology had to stand on it's own feet. As Deb once wrote, "Astrology should be based on a study of astrology. No other skill, no matter how admirable, will lead to the correct interpretation of a horoscope."
your definition is modern astrology
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your definition is modern astrology
According to you; not according to me or many other traditionalists. End of conversation, I think.
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According to you;

not according to me or many other traditionalists.
End of conversation, I think.

Exactly

You have your opinion,
which some other astrologers share
but that does not mean your opinion is necessarily "traditional"
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Re: Hello all!

David, I missed welcoming you to the forum. I have read many of your articles published elsewhere. This is a wonderful place to spark new minds to all things astrology. I sincerely hope you stay a spell.
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David, I missed welcoming you to the forum. I have read many of your articles published elsewhere. This is a wonderful place to spark new minds to all things astrology. I sincerely hope you stay a spell.
I missed it too. Welcome!
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According to you; not according to me or many other traditionalists. End of conversation, I think.
I have this "tree metaphor" for Astrology: Traditional as the roots, Modern for the branches, and the trunk for how they connect. All versions that are carefully considered, and that work for the Astrologers using them, are valid in this context. The label just depends on where you are on the tree for any given purpose. It's not necessary to stay in one place, but there may be one you prefer most (or least). [IMO] A Trad (who most prefers the roots) should avoid being a stick in the mud, and a Mod (who most prefers a particular branch) shouldn't get TOO airy-fairie.

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I have this "tree metaphor" for Astrology:
Traditional as the roots,
Without roots there are no branches
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Modern for the branches,
and the trunk for how they connect.
Without roots there is no trunk
for the branches to do their branching
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All versions that are carefully considered, and that work for the Astrologers using them,
are valid in this context.
The label just depends on where you are on the tree for any given purpose.
It's not necessary to stay in one place,
but there may be one you prefer most (or least). [IMO]
A Trad
(who most prefers the roots)
should avoid being a stick in the mud,
Ironically "mud" aka earth is essential for roots to thrive
and thus the trunk to thrive
and so on and so forth ad infinitum

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and a Mod
(who most prefers a particular branch)
shouldn't get TOO airy-fairie
.
I await your exposition on twigs
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Welcome to the forum!
Loving your posts. Keep it up.
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I have this "tree metaphor" for Astrology: Traditional as the roots, Modern for the branches, and the trunk for how they connect. All versions that are carefully considered, and that work for the Astrologers using them, are valid in this context. The label just depends on where you are on the tree for any given purpose. It's not necessary to stay in one place, but there may be one you prefer most (or least). [IMO] A Trad (who most prefers the roots) should avoid being a stick in the mud, and a Mod (who most prefers a particular branch) shouldn't get TOO airy-fairie.
Branches break off, and so do leaves, as the seasons come and go. The roots will always be there.

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Ironically "mud" aka earth is essential for roots to thrive
and thus the trunk to thrive
and so on and so forth ad infinitum
It was a dangerous implication if you ask me.
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Without roots there are no branches

Without roots there is no trunk
for the branches to do their branching


Ironically "mud" aka earth is essential for roots to thrive
and thus the trunk to thrive
and so on and so forth ad infinitum


I await your exposition on twigs
And, air contains the carbon dioxide necessary for the tree to "breathe". A tree divided against itself cannot stand! Astrology is like a mighty oak, rooted in the Earth, Sacred to Jupiter, and blessed by the Sun.

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And, air contains the carbon dioxide necessary for the tree to "breathe".
A tree divided against itself cannot stand!
Astrology is like a mighty oak, rooted in the Earth, Sacred to Jupiter, and blessed by the Sun.

And without water there is no mud
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And without water there is no mud
And chemotherapy = no more cancer
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And without water there is no mud
The roots provide water and nutrients from the Earth, Energy from the Sun (photosynthesis) through the leaves, carbon dioxide from the air--all the Elements are involved. Trees are awesome!
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