david starling
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We live in a society.
A Saturnian-ruled society demands absolute obedience to Saturn. One can choose not to conform, while still being mindful of the consequences.
We live in a society.
A Saturnian-ruled society demands absolute obedience to Saturn. One can choose not to conform, while still being mindful of the consequences.
Yes, there will be consequences in this age and in the age to come.
It's about our limitations as mortals, doomed to die BECAUSE of our limitations.
People say that Saturn in your chart helps you build character. So that justifies all of the hardships that it brings. But after you "build character" what then? Can you buy anything or get anything tangible with your newly built character. Its like working a hard job, but for monopoly money. Something that at the end of the day is worthless.
So how can any of the difficulties that Saturn bring be justified if there is no tangible reward at the end? It can't be unless you count reaching around and patting yourself on the back as a reward. So Saturn wants to "teach you patience", so what? What benefit does having more patience do for you? What can you buy with it? Can I trade it for goods and services? Do I get a harem of young women for my patience? If no, how am I or anyone else better off for "Saturn's lessons"?
That's why I call Saturn the devil's planet.
So isn't that sort of deterministic?
Or do you consider that just symbolism, but not deterministic?