Had a positive career Horary on 02/13/2018 - still no job

Vonfordstein · #1 09-11-2018, 07:21 PM

I did it through Astrotheme - it was positive with even a blurb about the placement of the planets meant that my career was marked by sheer good luck.

I've had one other positive career reading from Astrotheme in the past and *snap* I had a fantastic job within a month.

This one was done in Feb. We're now Sept. I'm actually being taken into consideration for 2 roles that would be a significant move forward in my career - but noooo one is getting back to me (it's vacation time).

I contacted Astrotheme about this and they said that the chart should be right, they also mention that it should also still be valid.

Is there any way of getting timing out of this thing? I can't stress enough how done I am with my current role and financial situation.

Help? Please & thanks.

Natasha

Vonfordstein · #2 09-12-2018, 01:31 PM

33 views and no one can offer me some help?

Please and thanks?

rafaella · #3 09-15-2018, 01:21 PM

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33 views and no one can offer me some help?

Please and thanks?

Astrotheme is that a paid reading?

Your chart is difficult to read, I suggest you upload one from astro.com We need to see degrees and the table that comes with the chart.

But I can see your significator is Sun in detriment, separating aspect from 10th ruler, Mars. Moon does apply to Mars but I don't know the degree unit as not shown in the chart. Timing might be Moon to Mars and when Sun moves out of the detriment.

Vonfordstein · #4 09-15-2018, 06:31 PM

Hi there -

Please see attached.

Let me know if this works.

Thanks~

rafaella · #5 09-15-2018, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vonfordstein

Hi there -

Please see attached.

Let me know if this works.

Thanks~

8-9 months from time of question

Vonfordstein · #6 09-16-2018, 10:16 AM

Well thanks so much for that!!

Vonfordstein · #7 11-11-2018, 04:27 PM

I'm not sure how you go that timing. Ok. So I'm new to horary. But theres no aspect between sun/mars. This chart should actually be a negative??

Yuri · #8 11-13-2018, 06:57 AM

It would be good to know if you were working somewhere else, at the time of the question. If yes, the asked job significator is Venus, not Mars. In this case, there is no evidence to get a job.

rafaella · #9 11-13-2018, 09:38 AM

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I'm not sure how you go that timing. Ok. So I'm new to horary. But theres no aspect between sun/mars. This chart should actually be a negative??

did you get the job?

Moon is your co-ruler, and aspects Mars. This chart shows a job. But we also relying on a chart pulled by an astrology website, I'm no fan of astrotheme….. you might want to make a new chart.

Vonfordstein · #10 11-13-2018, 11:43 AM

Hmmm. I'm sure they used aries as l10 not Taurus- mars/sun.

Vonfordstein · #11 11-13-2018, 11:45 AM

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did you get the job?

Moon is your co-ruler, and aspects Mars. This chart shows a job. But we also relying on a chart pulled by an astrology website, I'm no fan of astrotheme….. you might want to make a new chart.

I know, but it's still a chart regardless.

No job. In fact - I lost my.job...

Yuri · #12 11-13-2018, 04:16 PM

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Hmmm. I'm sure they used aries as l10 not Taurus- mars/sun.

Yes. So, if you were working, you wouldn't have got.
MC is an existing job, not a future one.

Vonfordstein · #13 11-13-2018, 04:24 PM

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Yes. So, if you were working, you wouldn't have got.
MC is an existing job, not a future one.

Thanks for the input.
Regardless. I'm really not sure how this was a positive- at all.

Chrysalis · #14 11-13-2018, 04:25 PM

When did you lose your job ?

Chrysalis · #15 11-13-2018, 04:27 PM

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Yes. So, if you were working, you wouldn't have got.
MC is an existing job, not a future one.

Where've you got that piece of information from ?

10th is a future job and 6th is current.

Vonfordstein · #16 11-13-2018, 04:30 PM

Cant quote for reply - lost my job 11/07

Yuri · #17 11-13-2018, 04:34 PM

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Where've you got that piece of information from ?

10th is a future job and 6th is current.

Frawley writes so. Where he writes about changing job. The next job is the next sign from the sign of MC.

Chrysalis · #18 11-13-2018, 04:39 PM

I was thinking it was recent, this job loss was to do with the moon/mars sextile which perfected in 8-9 units from when you cast the chart, which just so happens to be the 9 months mark you lost your job.

It was a loss and not a gain, as both moon/mars were in pitted degrees when in the sextile at 11 degrees, and mars is a natural significator of severing.

Yuri · #19 11-13-2018, 04:48 PM

Mars s10 is on Antares, this star is about cycles ending.

rafaella · #20 11-16-2018, 06:22 AM

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Frawley writes so. Where he writes about changing job. The next job is the next sign from the sign of MC.

I believe that's only if querent is specifically asking whether to stay in the current job or take the new offer or making comparisons between the jobs. Here the querent is just asking about a job, no need to have a significator for the current job.

rafaella · #21 11-16-2018, 06:51 AM

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I know, but it's still a chart regardless.

No job. In fact - I lost my.job...

Everyone can make a chart and call it a horary chart.... here you have a chart that is produced by a website which is not serviced by a professional horary astrologer. I looked Astrotheme and the report you received is computer based... so my question is whether this chart is valid. The supposed horary astrologer that oversees horary reports on the site actually lives in France but the location for this chart is in Canada, is that your location?

The way it works when you seek help of an astrologer, the astrologer pulls a chart once they get your question, have read it and understood it. They then pull a chart for their location.

On the other hand if indeed this chart is valid, it shows a job coming and it should have delivered by now if we just look at the aspect to 10th ruler... it could also mean this chart does not show timing, not all charts show timing and because you said 'soon'... soon can be 2 years, or 3 years...… the 9 degree here between Moon/Mars suggests longer timeframe. It doesn't mean 9 years, but who knows. Your significator here is in fixed sign in detriment... Moon approaching SN. There is also more going on with Sun/Mercury which I didn't mention last time. Sun enters exaltation of Venus and approaching Venus but Mercury gets to Sun first and prohibiting aspect. Mercury squared Jup and translates that to Sun. This is perhaps your job loss. I don't usually include the outer planets but here Uranus on the 10th exact degree of Sun comes in prominently, and look we have mutual reception between Sun and Uranus! Uranus is considered a malefic. Sudden change at work, this coupled with Mercury/Jup square with Sun.

If we look at Moon, its in detriment of Sun both in 7th house, house of enemy. Indeed this chart might have been more about your current job rather than future job. You don't give us much information about your job loss and why you lost that job? But horary many times shows us about what is coming up next, rather than specifically answering your question.

So I suggest you ask this horary again or perhaps ask again once you have a few job interviews done. And I also suggest you don't use astrotheme, waste of money.

good luck!

Yuri · #22 11-16-2018, 07:31 AM

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I believe that's only if querent is specifically asking whether to stay in the current job or take the new offer or making comparisons between the jobs. Here the querent is just asking about a job, no need to have a significator for the current job.

Maybe you are right. But I understood her question in this way - that she wants TO CHANGE and about if there is such a possibility. It's not obvious. ... As for the validity of the chart, your note below, agree. This chart is some piece of doubtfulness.

Vonfordstein · #23 11-17-2018, 01:43 AM

Hi there - I lost my job because I was too senior for the role. The company didnt want to hear about the risk of selling to certain companies, and they wanted were the sales. I was there only for 1.5 years and my skills as a senior analyst were continuously swepped under the rug. I was deeply unhappy there and am almost relieved that I'm no longer employed with them. In the meantime, I was able to get extra settlement and a letter of recommendation, so not all is lost.

In the interim, I pulled up another chart today.

I am by no means an expert at this so bear with me. L1 is h8 in pisces. I've just lost my job and I'm emotional and maybe not seeing things clearly. It's also a death/rebirth time for me (as I'm unemployed). L10 is sun house 5 in scorpio. The job is behind the scenes... in entertainment? Oh God, please don't tell me I'm going to be a home maker here. Sun is also conjunct jupiter. Is this job very good like I think it is? Finally. Although sun and moon are not currently aspecting. I'm assuming they will again, shortly, right? I'm haven't got to the part of counting aspects yet, right now I'm just relying on a calendar that doesn't include the moon. Saturn is in 7, well dignified, not aspecting sun (hopefully not before my moon) suggesting there won't be interference from other candidates?

So... am I missing anything? Does this look good? Oh! And Uranus in 11th. Not 10th anymore.

Vonfordstein · #24 11-17-2018, 01:46 AM

https://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&;

I'm on a mobile and I cant upload??

Nov 16 2018 at 7.30 pm - mississauga ont canada

Vonfordstein · #25 11-17-2018, 01:56 AM

Ok - l10 is saturn. In 7. Job is to do with stability and possibly through a relationship? God. Anyways. It's also aspecting the moon.

Oh man. I totally messed that up.

Would the fact that Neptune is in pisces which is also conjuch moon say anything else about the role? Like would it have to do with law? It's weird. I have a lawyer who's a pisces and he has his own firm. I've done some good work for him (my own case) that I know impressed him... or am I over reaching.

Help please?