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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

So people get bent out about the grand cross.

Why do they not also realize that there is also:

1. a Grand Earth Trine

2. a Mutable T-Square

3. a Cardinal T-Square

4. a Kite

5. a a Mystic Rectangle

All of these influence and modify the Grand Square.

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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

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So people get bent out about the grand cross.

Why do they not also realize that there is also:

1. a Grand Earth Trine

2. a Mutable T-Square

3. a Cardinal T-Square

4. a Kite

5. a a Mystic Rectangle

All of these influence and modify the Grand Square.
When/where/what planets? Not seeing any of that at the moment.
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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

Its all on my transit chart for Bar Harbor, Maine, USA, 15 minutes ago.
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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

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So people get bent out about the grand cross.

Why do they not also realize that there is also:

1. a Grand Earth Trine

2. a Mutable T-Square

3. a Cardinal T-Square

4. a Kite

5. a a Mystic Rectangle

All of these influence and modify the Grand Square.
That's because we look at the 'bigger picture'.
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That's because we look at the 'bigger picture'.
Actually On my computer the Grand Trine is in Dark Blue and looks much bigger than the skinny red lines of the square.
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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

huh... this is what I'm getting for right now where I live. None of those aspects show up that I see.
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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

Your problem is using on-line software which doesn't include much of what is available in astrology.
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Your problem is using on-line software which doesn't include much of what is available in astrology.
Your vagueness only draws this out longer.
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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

This thread is about those things. IMO, its about fear mongering for a flakey cardinal cross.
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This thread is about those things. IMO, its about fear mongering for a flakey cardinal cross.
I'm not sure who is in fear of the cross. Most people just seem curious about what it means, and wondering if it's going to mean bad things for them. Seems it wasn't, although like I said I didn't expect much to happen as crosses seem to mean stored energy, not a display of it.

I still don't know what grand earth trine and mystic rectangle and t-squares you're referring to.
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I'm not sure who is in fear of the cross.
Its all about crucifixion..... Hanging out on a Cross all day with nails through my wrists and ankles is a not fun way to spend a Friday afternoon.

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Re: Cardinal Grand Cross in April

But this is a Grand Cross(or Square, which is less scary than being crucified on one, IMO anyhow).

So in a Grand Cross:

We have two oppositions squaring one another.

1. One of the things that can happen is that it can be self limiting.

2. The Cross tends to struggle under frustrating conditions often of its own making requiring a learning of controlling his energies or ending up scattered all over creation the major effort of the impact.

3. The double oppositions require a combined breakthrough which is difficult to locate, but is seen at the Apex. But the break throughs have to both happen, and they always entail a major change of thinking---or nothing happens at all. This is important: NOTHING HAPPENS unless the native solves them. They are not BAD scenes.

4. The combination of the square and the oppositions produces an inner sense of friction, strain, and pressure---but no outer circumstance. Its all inner pressure to do something that the native can't quite grasp(unless they have a resident astrologer to tell them).

5. The way to solve them is very dependent on looking at the power and strength of the oppositions and the squares in the chart to determine the areas of focus.


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The CARDINAL GRAND SQUARE

1. Requires activities of "on the go" and energetic action

2. Tends to develop issues involving to quick and poorly planned actions, and then the actions tend to fall apart before causing any real positive or negative events.

3. The Pitfalls of the grand square: impetuosity, recklessness, bad timing, over assertion, head on confrontations with others, accident prone due to impulsiveness, especially if Mars or Uranus are part of the configuration

4. In a cardinal grand square, the native starts projects with drive, but lacks the staying power to keep them going.

5. Since a cardinal square is indicative of failing to have discipline and wanting to do own thing, often the native can never quite develop a sense of what that THING IS that s/he is supposed to be doing to solve the Square.

6. Cardinal oppositions require cooperation and consideration of others to be central to breaking through the glass ceiling

7. To solve a cardinal square, the native must share with others and be social before others will assist him in his goals, and he wont want to do that.

8. The ambition to succeed is really strong but, deliberation or forethought can create disorder, and the actions suffer big time.

9. The native with a cardinal grand square feels blocked by obstacles which stop the expression of what he wants in the here and now.

10. In a cardinal grand square, the native needs to learn to take his/her head strong temperament and focus on one objective at a time, and develop staying power for it.

11. In a cardinal square the native is constantly rushing off to a new activity before getting any gain or conclusion to the one hes on now.

12. Lack of planning keeps from having the reward of accomplishment
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