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Thanks CL.........I get it now.......For relocation charts, we use the Lat/Long of the new location and the local time there which equates exactly to the actual Universal Time of our birth......So the planet locations in signs are unchanged, but the positions house cusps change.
Okay I get it, I was doing it right the first time. Will redo it again. Ta

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Oh well, look like my Sun goes into opposition and my asc goes into Capricorn.
Some of the aspects change too.
*shrug* I don't think I need astrology to tell me I don't fit well here.
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.....*shrug* I don't think I need astrology to tell me I don't fit well here.
Use it to tell you why you don't fit well there; where you would fit well; when to relocate; what will change; how you will feel about it and who you might become if you make the move. (My thanks to Kipling's "I keep six honest serving men")
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There should be no change in planetary aspects. They would be the same as in your natal. What changes is the angles and the house placements. You look to these differences between your natal and relocated. Especially where your Sun/Moon are located now, and what your Asc and MC are and any new aspects to them.
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Use it to tell you why you don't fit well there; where you would fit well; when to relocate; what will change; how you will feel about it and who you might become if you make the move. (My thanks to Kipling's "I keep six honest serving men")
Just finding all this very confusing and hard, and when I ask for help it feels like as if I'm just asking questions without doing work as a member expressed themselves and just generally makes me feel gloomy. I am not saying this to argue with anyone, this is just how I feel, very frustrated and trying my best but as if I'm not getting anywhere. I'm not sure how to figure all those things out, that's why I come here for help .

All I can see is that my Asc is now in Capricorn - that one definately makes sense, people tend to see me as far more conservative than I really am. Um what else, MC is in Aquarius, once again sorry if I haven't read enough but I really don't know what it means! I mean, what does a career in Aquarius mean as opposed to a career in Scorpio which is in my natal chart? Does this mean I'll go prancing around doing humanitarian work suddenly because I'm here? Yes, I admit, that is the sort of work I am attracted to but I thought it was more about my personality type than living here. My sun is now in 1st house which is in opposition to my Sun in 7th house, and my Moon is now obviously in the 4th house as opposed to the 10th house. The fact that my moon and sun are in opposition means I will be forced to become something I am not, am I right?

Sorry if this seems if I haven't done my homework, I really am finding all of this confusing!
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.....I feel very frustrated.....trying my best but as if I'm not getting anywhere. I'm not sure how to figure all those things out, that's why I come here for help.
And we want to help Noeye, because we can see how hard you're trying to understand........But, most of us are "visual"......We need to see the birth and relocation charts in order to steer you correctly.

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.....MC is in Aquarius....what does a career in Aquarius mean as opposed to a career in Scorpio which is in my natal chart?
The ruling planet of the sign on the MC (and those in it's line of dispositorship) indicate the kind of career which might be right for you.....The natal rulers of your MC are Mars/Pluto, but the relocated rulers are Saturn/Uranus......So, the career that's right for you in your natal location is likely to be very different from the one which is best in the re-location.........(But, what that career might be can only be determined by looking at the whole chart).

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My sun is now in 1st house which is in opposition to my Sun in 7th house
In the eyes of others, a 1st house sun "takes centre stage" (Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones is an excellent example).........whilst a 7th house sun shines best through a partner.

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.....my Moon is now in the 4th house as opposed to the 10th house.
So, you'll feel more emotionally secure at home (4th) than at work (10th)......whilst the reverse might be the case in your natal location.

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The fact that my moon and sun are in opposition means I will be forced to become something I am not, am I right?
Not "forced"...........more comfortable doing what might be uncomfortable in your natal location......and vice-versa........What it really indicates is that the people/culture in each location are very different, so your normal behaviour would be regarded differently by them........For example, a female might feel comfortable walking down a public street in the UK with her lower legs uncovered, but very uncomfortable doing so in a country that requires women to cover themselves fully in public.

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Just finding all this very confusing and hard
Noideaaboutastro,

Don't get discouraged. It is frustrating at times to see that there is no one answer and too many factors to consider.

Hate to say this but homework is the best way to go.

As far as relocation charts, your MC moving Aquarius may mean that this type of career will be easier to pursue at the new place, or Aquarian characteristics in you will be best applied towards career, social standing, or something you will be known for.
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Big huge thank you!

So basically the sun represents how you shine, the moon represents where you are secure, and the oppositions just represent completely different cultures (that one makes sense!)

Now let's scrap everything and admit I did half of it WRONG. I got mixed up with the two different relocation charts that I did. So my natal MC is actually in Capricorn. And my ASC here is in Taurus......hmmmm I always felt Capricorn fitted better but okay.....

I'll post up my natal chart and then my relocation chart and see if anybody can see anything else different.......because the sun moon, asc and mc is about all I can figure out properly really.
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And we want to help Noeye, because we can see how hard you're trying to understand........But, most of us are "visual"......We need to see the birth and relocation charts in order to steer you correctly.



The ruling planet of the sign on the MC (and those in it's line of dispositorship) indicate the kind of career which might be right for you.....The natal rulers of your MC are Mars/Pluto, but the relocated rulers are Saturn/Uranus......So, the career that's right for you in your natal location is likely to be very different from the one which is best in the re-location.........(But, what that career might be can only be determined by looking at the whole chart).



In the eyes of others, a 1st house sun "takes centre stage" (Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones is an excellent example).........whilst a 7th house sun shines best through a partner.



So, you'll feel more emotionally secure at home (4th) than at work (10th)......whilst the reverse might be the case in your natal location.



Not "forced"...........more comfortable doing what might be uncomfortable in your natal location......and vice-versa........What it really indicates is that the people/culture in each location are very different, so your normal behaviour would be regarded differently by them........For example, a female might feel comfortable walking down a public street in the UK with her lower legs uncovered, but very uncomfortable doing so in a country that requires women to cover themselves fully in public.

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Noideaaboutastro,

Don't get discouraged. It is frustrating at times to see that there is no one answer and too many factors to consider.

Hate to say this but homework is the best way to go.

As far as relocation charts, your MC moving Aquarius may mean that this type of career will be easier to pursue at the new place, or Aquarian characteristics in you will be best applied towards career, social standing, or something you will be known for.

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....I did half of it WRONG....posted up my natal chart and my relocation chart......
This relocation chart is still not correct either, Noeye...........If the Moon is at 14.33.00 degrees Virgo in the natal chart, it will also be at 14.33.00 degrees Virgo in the relocated chart.

If you are using astro.com.......Free Chart Selection......Extended Chart Selection......(type of chart you want) Relocation Chart.........Click to draw chart......Enter Natal Chart Birth Data........Scroll down the natal chart screen which then appears...to..."Click to choose a different reference place"......untick "use birth details" box.........enter new location.....Click "continue" to produce relocated chart......Confirm moon position is same in both natal and relocated chart.
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This relocation chart is still not correct either, Noeye...........If the Moon is at 14.33.00 degrees Virgo in the natal chart, it will also be at 14.33.00 degrees Virgo in the relocated chart.

If you are using astro.com.......Free Chart Selection......Extended Chart Selection......(type of chart you want) Relocation Chart.........Click to draw chart......Enter Natal Chart Birth Data........Scroll down the natal chart screen which then appears...to..."Click to choose a different reference place"......untick "use birth details" box.........enter new location.....Click "continue" to produce relocated chart......Confirm moon position is same in both natal and relocated chart.
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Okay I hope I did it correctly. Here is what I got:
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Okay I hope I did it correctly. Here is what I got:
Everything is now A-OK, Houston.........We are on our way

Here's the significant changes that I see (Natal Chart : Relocated Chart) :-

Chart Ruler - Pluto in Scorpio/12th : Mars in Pisces/11th
Location of opposing stelliums - 2nd/8th : 9th/3rd
Virgo Moon - 10th : 5th
Sun/Jupiter - 7th : 2nd
Pluto - 12th : 7th
Mars - 3rd : 11th
North Node - 4th : 12th

Also....Nothing is intercepted in the relocated chart......But natally, Aquarius/Leo is intercepted in 3rd/9th; Libra is duplicated on the cusps of 11th/12th houses and Aries is duplicated on the cusps of 5th/6th houses.

So, now the "homework" Noeye........How would you interpret these changes?

[Note : Think of the chart ruler as being the planet that you "see as yourself"/identify with most........Natally, "you R pluto in scorpio/12th" but, with relocation, "you R Mars in Pisces/11th".]

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Everything is now A-OK, Houston.........We are on our way

Here's the significant changes that I see (Natal Chart : Relocated Chart) :-

Chart Ruler - Pluto in Scorpio/12th : Mars in Pisces/11th
Location of opposing stelliums - 2nd/8th : 9th/3rd
Virgo Moon - 10th : 5th
Sun/Jupiter - 7th : 2nd
Pluto - 12th : 7th
Mars - 3rd : 11th
North Node - 4th : 12th

Also....Nothing is intercepted in the relocated chart......But natally, Aquarius/Leo is intercepted in 3rd/9th; Libra is duplicated on the cusps of 11th/12th houses and Aries is duplicated on the cusps of 5th/6th houses.

So, now the "homework" Noeye........How would you interpret these changes?

[Note : Think of the chart ruler as being the planet that you "see as yourself"/identify with most........Natally, "you R pluto in scorpio/12th" but, with relocation, "you R Mars in Pisces/11th".]

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What?! You're making me do homework?!?!?!

*throws books on floor, stomps foot, pick them up, stomps off to do homework* (jks of course)

Lol. This may take me some time.
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Chart Ruler - Pluto in Scorpio/12th : Mars in Pisces/11th
Location of opposing stelliums - 2nd/8th : 9th/3rd
Virgo Moon - 10th : 5th
Sun/Jupiter - 7th : 2nd
Pluto - 12th : 7th
Mars - 3rd : 11th
North Node - 4th : 12th
Well natally I am a bit of a freak - I mean, who has their chart ruler in the not on Pluto, but also Scorpio which is ruled by Pluto, and also in the 12th house, which is ruled by Scorpio. Okay, so now my chart ruler is in Mars in Pisces. Well Pisces has nothing to do with Mars, it's supposed to be Neptune, and nothing to do with the 11th house. So maybe I become kinda less intense here and become more friendship orientated....

Opposing stelliums - well here I'll feel like my communication with close associates is hampered by my need to travel???

Here I am more emotional rather than detached and calculating according to my Moon.

I also express myself and have more luck with money rather than relationships.

Pluto - signifies that I reserve my freakisheness for close relationships here.

Seriously......I have not much idea......
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Also....Nothing is intercepted in the relocated chart......But natally, Aquarius/Leo is intercepted in 3rd/9th; Libra is duplicated on the cusps of 11th/12th houses and Aries is duplicated on the cusps of 5th/6th houses.
WHat did you say? What is intercepted? What is duplicated? I am so confused
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Seriously......I have not much idea
Actually, you gave a good analysis.

Your relocated ruler (Mars) is weak by both sign and house; squares the sun and is constantly engaged in sorting out the conflict/opposition between Saturn/Venus.......So, as you say, this is probably not the best location for you.............But if you moved to a place where Aquarius was on the Ascendant with Uranus in 11th house, life would be much more exciting and Pluto might be well-placed to boost your career.

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.....What is intercepted? What is duplicated? I am so confused
Nothing is intercepted/duplicated in the relocation chart........So, ignore it for now.........However, if possible, try not to relocate to a place that produces a chart having the same sign on more than one house cusp.

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Actually, you gave a good analysis.

Your relocated ruler (Mars) is weak by both sign and house; squares the sun and is constantly engaged in sorting out the conflict/opposition between Saturn/Venus.......So, as you say, this is probably not the best location for you.............But if you moved to a place where Aquarius was on the Ascendant with Uranus in 11th house, life would be much more exciting and Pluto might be well-placed to boost your career.



Nothing is intercepted/duplicated in the relocation chart........So, ignore it for now.........However, if possible, try not to relocate to a place that produces a chart having the same sign on more than one house cusp.

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Hi EJ. Sorry to ask this of you but I'm still a little bit confused. Can you tell me what you are talking about more and explain it to me a bit more in reference to my chart? I'm very new at this and it's probably better for me to see how it goes the first time.

Also, are there certain areas that can be seen in relocation charts? Such as, career, relationships, children etc? Or is it just general happiness?
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....Can you tell me what you are talking about more and explain it to me a bit more in reference to my chart?
Ok Noeye......Interceptions/duplications are shown in your natal chart as follows :-

The signs of Aquarius and Leo do not appear on any house cusp......So, they are "intercepted signs"......(And, if there were any planets in these signs, they would be "intercepted planets").

The 11th and 12th house cusps both have Libra on the cusp.......So, they are "duplicated houses"..........The 5th and 6th houses are also duplicated, because Aries is on the cusp of both.

Individuals cannot fully express the positive qualities of intercepted signs and planets until they learn (through hard experience in life) how to do so.....Which few people ever do until they are well into old age......Hence, if you can remove interceptions through relocation, it probably makes sense to do so.

Duplicated houses exist only in charts containing intercepted signs, but tend to be easier to spot.......So, they alert us to the less obvious interceptions that might otherwise go unnoticed.
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.....are there certain areas that can be seen in relocation charts? Such as, career, relationships, children etc?
Yes.......Look upon the relocated chart as the natal chart of the "New You"....and interpret it in exactly the way you would interpret any natal chart.

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I have read through this thread, and have shared much of noideaaboutastro's frustration and misunderstanding. However, have now managed to crack it, I think, using astro.com's relocation chart facility.

As someone who still lives less than 50 miles from where I was born, I have had to find a guines pig on which to research this topic. I have done a relocation chart for my niece, who has lived in the UK for around 10 years, and although she travels back to Oz regularly, her visits just reaffirm for her that she `belongs' in the UK.
Her charts from where she was born to relocate her in Bristol UK almost totally flip her chart, so that her huge Virgo stellium is now in the 12th, rather than the 7th.

I can certaily `see' her true nature (at least, as I observe her) in her natal chart from Australia, but the changes with relocation are interesting, I think. On her relocation chart, certain things emerge, some of which are:
  • Chiron in the 7th, rather than the 1st - all the men with whom she has been involved while in UK have `problems', often with backgrounds of severe abuse. This did not happen when she was in Aust.
  • Saturn in 8th, ruling IC - every time she comes back `home' she feels frustrated and blocked, usually by her father, whom she says does not understand her choices, even though she desperately wants his approval. (Saturn still forms the apex to her Yod, so this focus now is being projected firmly towards the IC/roots)
  • Uranus (part of the Yod) now closely conj ASC, so she is seen as being rebellious and non-conformist - particularly by her father and brother, both of whom are quite conservative
  • and lastly, from Sag MC, where she was always travelling, and forever searching for `something', her relocated MC is Cancer, and she appears much more at home where she is in UK, and has no difficulty in creating work. She also works from home.
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Ok Noeye......Interceptions/duplications are shown in your natal chart as follows :-

The signs of Aquarius and Leo do not appear on any house cusp......So, they are "intercepted signs"......(And, if there were any planets in these signs, they would be "intercepted planets").

The 11th and 12th house cusps both have Libra on the cusp.......So, they are "duplicated houses"..........The 5th and 6th houses are also duplicated, because Aries is on the cusp of both.

Individuals cannot fully express the positive qualities of intercepted signs and planets until they learn (through hard experience in life) how to do so.....Which few people ever do until they are well into old age......Hence, if you can remove interceptions through relocation, it probably makes sense to do so.

Duplicated houses exist only in charts containing intercepted signs, but tend to be easier to spot.......So, they alert us to the less obvious interceptions that might otherwise go unnoticed.
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Yes.......Look upon the relocated chart as the natal chart of the "New You"....and interpret it in exactly the way you would interpret any natal chart.

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Thanks EJ. A bit hard to understand and decipher for me but I'll try!
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I have read through this thread, and have shared much of noideaaboutastro's frustration and misunderstanding. However, have now managed to crack it, I think, using astro.com's relocation chart facility.

As someone who still lives less than 50 miles from where I was born, I have had to find a guines pig on which to research this topic. I have done a relocation chart for my niece, who has lived in the UK for around 10 years, and although she travels back to Oz regularly, her visits just reaffirm for her that she `belongs' in the UK.
Her charts from where she was born to relocate her in Bristol UK almost totally flip her chart, so that her huge Virgo stellium is now in the 12th, rather than the 7th.

I can certaily `see' her true nature (at least, as I observe her) in her natal chart from Australia, but the changes with relocation are interesting, I think. On her relocation chart, certain things emerge, some of which are:
  • Chiron in the 7th, rather than the 1st - all the men with whom she has been involved while in UK have `problems', often with backgrounds of severe abuse. This did not happen when she was in Aust.
  • Saturn in 8th, ruling IC - every time she comes back `home' she feels frustrated and blocked, usually by her father, whom she says does not understand her choices, even though she desperately wants his approval. (Saturn still forms the apex to her Yod, so this focus now is being projected firmly towards the IC/roots)
  • Uranus (part of the Yod) now closely conj ASC, so she is seen as being rebellious and non-conformist - particularly by her father and brother, both of whom are quite conservative
  • and lastly, from Sag MC, where she was always travelling, and forever searching for `something', her relocated MC is Cancer, and she appears much more at home where she is in UK, and has no difficulty in creating work. She also works from home.
May I borrow your analysis and try and apply it to my chart? Sorry but I'm still frustrated! lol
  • Chiron is natally in 8th but here comes into 3rd house. However I don't think my Chiron is actually connected to relationships but to my experiences in life. Could it be that here I experience pain with neighbours and close associates? Or that the fact that I'm an only child gets whipped up even more?
  • Here my IC is in Cancer, which means I should feel more at home. However I do not. Can anybody help me understand why I don't feel at home here when my IC is in Cancer?
TIA)).

EJ, I was also a bit perplexed at what you said about the 'new' you. I thought that the natal chart still had overwhelming importance, and the relocation chart wasn't really what was being seeing but just a different coloured lense being put on??? Sort of to that effect, no?
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I have shared much of noideaaboutastro's frustration and misunderstanding. However, have now managed to crack it, I think, using astro.com's relocation chart facility.
Yes, I've kicked over a few tables too.......Astro.com make it easy but, otherwise, manually adjusting for time zones and daylight savings can be

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I can certainly `see' my daughter's true nature (at least, as I observe her) in her natal chart from Australia, but the changes with relocation are interesting, I think.
Like you R4VEN, I know only one person who has relocated far enough from their birthplace for it to make a difference........So, it's hard to get experience/practice in working with relocated charts......However, there seems to be a few astrologers specialising in this service on the internet....And I wouldn't be surprised if the demand for it increases in the future......(if thinking about emigrating to another country, I'd certainly be prepared to pay for a Relocation Report from a competent astrologer).


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...Saturn in 8th, ruling IC - every time she comes back `home' she feels frustrated and blocked.......Uranus now closely conj ASC, so she is seen as being rebellious and non-conformist - particularly by her father and brother, both of whom are quite conservative
But, how do these manifest in England/the relocation?.......Do they help or hinder her here?

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.....Chiron is natally in 8th but here comes into 3rd house. However I don't think my Chiron is actually connected to relationships but to my experiences in life. Could it be that here I experience pain with neighbours and close associates? Or that the fact that I'm an only child gets whipped up even more?
Chiron in Gemini makes us feel "poor at communicating", and therefore socially inept.......in the 3rd, it may indeed be seen in problems with neighbours, etc.....And, in another location it may appear in a different way.....But, wherever you reside, the solution remains the same.....Improving your communication skills will enhance your relationships/experiences/life.

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....Here my IC is in Cancer, which means I should feel more at home. However I do not. Can anybody help me understand why I don't feel at home here when my IC is in Cancer?
Maybe the discomfort comes from the ruler of the 4th being Moon in Virgo/5th...........where it needs to have creative work and be financially secure to feel comfortable.

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EJ, I was also a bit perplexed at what you said about the 'new' you. I thought that the natal chart still had overwhelming importance, and the relocation chart wasn't really what was being seeing but just a different coloured lense being put on??? Sort of to that effect, no?
Yes, the natal chart over-rides.......We cannot change our character by relocating (That requires years of experience and effort).......But relocation does change the way our character is perceived by others.......They see a "new us" (through the eyes of a new culture)........which is reflected by our natal chart planets/characteristics now being in different houses....We haven't changed the natal issues in our chart - only the experiences/people through which we shall encounter them.

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Thanks EJ. A bit hard to understand and decipher for me but I'll try!
You don't need to understand interceptions.......Just avoid relocating to a place that produces a chart with the same sign on more than one house cusp.

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Thanks EJ! That makes sense now!
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Thanks EJ. That makes a lot of sense, tanks!
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....Here my IC is in Cancer, which means I should feel more at home. However I do not. Can anybody help me understand why I don't feel at home here when my IC is in Cancer?
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Maybe the discomfort comes from the ruler of the 4th being Moon in Virgo/5th...........where it needs to have creative work and be financially secure to feel comfortable.
I know I've come very late on this thread and just read it through for first time. Just a couple of thoughts regarding the above then...

Your Virgo Moon and cancer IC both these signs to me are worriers, and Virgo is conj 6th house cusp (within 5' is considered functioning in next house) whereas natally it's in 11th (Equal house system which I use)

Wherever your moon is placed is where we seek nurturance and natally it's from friends, groups etc and is also involved in grand trine & kite but it's also restlessness twice over 1) cos it's mutable 2) cos it's moon.

In relocated chart it's now operating in 6th house ie; co-workers and type of work you do, daily routines and being of service to people.So this is where you would look for nurturance and be restless and that restlessness spills over into home roots IC. I have moon ruling 6th and simply could not function if there were lots of bitching and backstabbing going on or lots of nastiness and I bet your the same, it would have much bigger impact on your emotions.

In Equal house cancer rules your 8th house and is placed in 11th. Also in Equal house we don't have interceptions, each house cusp is the same as Asc.

Can't quite make out if you have actually done this relocation or whether you are still considering it?

There is a huge difference in Scorpio and Aries rising in fact they are quincunxed signs ie; 150' away from each other. Scorpio is a very private deeply analytical sign and plays its cards very close to it's chest, whereas Aries is straight upfront in your face and not afraid to say it, soon to flare up and down, very impatient and impulsive and very much and open book. Are you saying to me that people now see you as Aries rather than Scorpio?? Have you really become extreme opposite?

Last but not least Virgo Moon in relocated chart is quincunxed new Asc again emotionally not showing what's inside perhaps and finding it awkward to express and maybe they don't come out as intended?
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I know I've come very late on this thread and just read it through for first time. Just a couple of thoughts regarding the above then...

Your Virgo Moon and cancer IC both these signs to me are worriers, and Virgo is conj 6th house cusp (within 5' is considered functioning in next house) whereas natally it's in 11th (Equal house system which I use)

Wherever your moon is placed is where we seek nurturance and natally it's from friends, groups etc and is also involved in grand trine & kite but it's also restlessness twice over 1) cos it's mutable 2) cos it's moon.

In relocated chart it's now operating in 6th house ie; co-workers and type of work you do, daily routines and being of service to people.So this is where you would look for nurturance and be restless and that restlessness spills over into home roots IC. I have moon ruling 6th and simply could not function if there were lots of bitching and backstabbing going on or lots of nastiness and I bet your the same, it would have much bigger impact on your emotions.

In Equal house cancer rules your 8th house and is placed in 11th. Also in Equal house we don't have interceptions, each house cusp is the same as Asc.

Can't quite make out if you have actually done this relocation or whether you are still considering it?

There is a huge difference in Scorpio and Aries rising in fact they are quincunxed signs ie; 150' away from each other. Scorpio is a very private deeply analytical sign and plays its cards very close to it's chest, whereas Aries is straight upfront in your face and not afraid to say it, soon to flare up and down, very impatient and impulsive and very much and open book. Are you saying to me that people now see you as Aries rather than Scorpio?? Have you really become extreme opposite?

Last but not least Virgo Moon in relocated chart is quincunxed new Asc again emotionally not showing what's inside perhaps and finding it awkward to express and maybe they don't come out as intended?
Sorry for late reply, I see it's October now but I've only just returned to the forum. Astrologer50 and everybody else, I don't mean to be rude, you guys have really helped me out with this relocation stuff but I still find it hard to understand.

I will do a brief run down of some things that have happened recently. I've just come back from overseas, and I cannot explain how much I felt relieved and happy there, like I was free to be myself again. So I don't have any more doubts that right now where I live is the wrong place for me and I need to move as soon as I finish my degree (which is next year). Things do not go well for me in this part of the world.

Astrologer50, could you please let me know where I am going wrong with drawing up my chart if the houses aren't right? This is probably the most complex part of astrology for me for some reason, it's just hard to get my head around. I hope I am understanding things correctly, were you trying to say that where I live I will not feel nurtured and loved? This is exactly how I feel and it was exactly stark opposite as to how I felt overseas. Also, my relationship with my parents was honestly speaking always abusive where I live, I went overseas and we actually got mildly along! (not completely along, but we were civil and sort of loving). I spent half the night crying to my mother about how depressed I was about being back here and I never even talk to her, that's how much our relationship has improved.
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I have read that we don't need Relocation Astrology because we can make Solar Return for new country and new city.

As I know we are born only once and not more times, what Relocation Chart shows. Why do two jobs if we can do just one?

I have lived in abroad and all my Solar Returns for there did work.

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