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No acceptance,no way to accept it.
then don't accept it - that's your choice

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No point of our discussion,

i cannot understand

what you are suggesting to do.


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I really don't have much time to look for nutrition and exercice,
that's bad i know and exercice is a physical antidepressant.
As you read,it's going to be tough year for me
with dissapointments not ending soon.

My program is not stable
so i can try things i like
and give me some plessure.
I could go learn a guitar,
or exercice to the gym,or bike.
it's your choice

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I got bored,goodbye.

only the individual can find ways to ease their own bordeom
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It's not my choice,it's planets choice.
you are entitled to your belief
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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

A quick glance at your natal chart suggests your success/career lies in your ability to communicate. If I had to take a stab at a career choice for you I would suggest you look into design and/or graphic arts. Design and graphic arts are the creative aspect of so many career fields yet communicate ideas and concepts. You can work alone on a project or be part of a team. Look into it. See if this feels good to you. If so, go for it. Staying the course may be challenging, accept that, but you also have a lot of drive, so bite the bullet and keep on keeping on. My 2 cents.
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Too late to start studying again,all hope is gone,i'm stucked.
all is not lost because our forum provides social interaction you otherwise lack
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My natal is damaged,no hope at all.
There is no explanation why i suffer.
a benefit to you is
you have our forum members to discuss this with
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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

I agree, you're fully doomed.
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Nah, don't bother yourself with all of that. Too much work.
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It's not my belief,it's a fact.
everyone has beliefs
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Blame Saturn.
that's your decision
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Re: Chronic Loneliness and Depression

You've currently got the NN aspecting your 8th house moon, which won't be helping.

But just like any aspect this will pass.

Life is fluid nothing stays the same. But the more you see blackness the more it will become. I feel like your manifesting it yourself.
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Re: Chronic Loneliness and Depression

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Hey forum, everyone. I found the problem! Woot! It's right here.

Friend, no transits or planets will better your life if you keep giving away your power and blame planets for your miserable life. If you keep doing that it will prolly continue to be miserable. Just suck up your ego and learn the lessons and planets will start working in your favor. I bet they are trying but you are pretty much sabotaging anything good that tries to enter your life with this attitude .
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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

Hey Nightfall Iím glad you are talking to us on here, I saw you have Saturn in the 4th and straight away I just felt so bad for you. Your childhood sounded very lonely. It is like you havenít recovered from your childhood yet and are reliving the loneliness and you lack the social skills to make the connections you seek.

Thing is, youíve already survived your Saturn Return and like others have commented, you are going through some heavy transits and it wonít end until January 2020 for you. Well, youíve come this far, might as well keep going and see what happens. A huge part of you must be tougher than you give yourself credit for, to have kept going so long. Saturn in 4th was a very tough and isolated childhood but itís alsi made you tough at your core

Iím not surprised youíre struggling at work because youíre ill but your toughness is causing you to keep going back to a place that hurts you. Your coworkers arenít responding to you well because of your illness and itís gonna be super tough to make friends with happier people because youíre just not on the same wavelength right now.

Keep going to work if you want but if you need time off and itís possible to do so, take time off, get yourself to the doctors and on anti-depressants. Build a new computer, learn guitar.

You basically need to heal from your childhood but you might not be able to do that until the planets are back on your side again. So, just protect yourself until then. Iím also not surprised you get stoned, itís a good comfort blanket when youíre in retreat mode.

Your moon in Aries conjunct north Node - well this lifetime you are really being forced to become more mature with your emotions. So even though Saturn and Pluto are kicking your ***, theyíre actually helping you grow. Youíre becoming more mature without even realising it. Youíre one tough cookie.
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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

Oh please don't enable his misery. I know tons of people with Saturn in 4th who are the happiest people. He should visit a psychologist, not an astrology forum.
Depression can't be cured in a forum.

From all the posts all I saw from Nightfall was going against people who actually try to help and suggest something and actually going with the ones enabling his "misery". Maybe you were too enabled as a child and ended up a spoiled brat.

Maybe you need someone to tell you to stop whining and get your stuff together and accept life is hard and then you die, but in between it will be also cool and happy if you chose so. No amount of transits or progressions will help your mindset. And it's quite irresponsible and naive to believe your chart rules your life. No wonder you have the NN in 8th, I'm just amazed that you are 33 and you haven't done no work at all apart from complaining. I have NN in 8th in Scorpio, yeah it *****, yeah it's scary, but that's life. You can be a victim or the master of your reality. Right now you are the victim of it.

It's high time you take your personal power back and take responsibility for your failures cos I assure you it's not your chart. It's you. If you wanna play that game, my chart is majorly from squares , plus two malefics on the axis. I'm 24 and I'm further in this game. Not cos my chart is "luckier" than yours. But cos I actually put in the effort to learn my lessons and not whine about everything that doesn't go my way. Yeah I used to do that, because NN in 8th is tough , but there are people who have it worse.

Right now you are stuck in your SN and you are stubborn and egoic and thats your detriment and it will get worse with time until you surrender to the lessons of the NN. If you keep up with that stubborness indeed you will die alone, have a shitty job and **** life. Try to come step out of your comfort zone and into the new and you just might experience magic and transformation.
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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

I bet I can predict the response to your post, ardentika.

I'm no doctor, but this guy just might need some chemical intervention.
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Ardentika, I get the need to grow up but sometimes before that happens there is a period in life you canít actually do anything but fail cos depression overtakes everything. I see someone who is really struggling but has stuck it this far so he obviously wants to survive. He definitely needs to go see his doctor and be proactive about helping himself but sometimes you canít see the wood for the trees. I just wanna give him the benefit of the doubt.

Also,Ardentika you say you donít whine but your post was extremely whiny so Iím wondering if youíre actually projecting a little bit because you bury the side of you that wants to feel sorry for yourself and advertise yourself as tough.

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There is no plessure or satisfaction in my lifetime and it's been this way from school years,no friends nowhere,no girlfriends,no fun,no hobbies,no vacations,no traveling,no success,just boredom,stucked,stoned in same low level.
Nightfall, Iíve been there and itís horrible. I know it doesnít help right now but there are other people going through exactly how you feel and when youíre feeling better those are the people you should be friends with because they understand. People who havenít ever suffered really are just big babies BUT you need to get yourself to your doctors and get on anti-depressants. At least try to do that, you can go to work everyday so you can go to the doctors.
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Ardentika, I get the need to grow up but sometimes before that happens there is a period in life you canít actually do anything but fail cos depression overtakes everything. I see someone who is really struggling but has stuck it this far so he obviously wants to survive. He definitely needs to go see his doctor and be proactive about helping himself but sometimes you canít see the wood for the trees. I just wanna give him the benefit of the doubt.

Also,Ardentika you say you donít whine but your post was extremely whiny so Iím wondering if youíre actually projecting a little bit because you bury the side of you that wants to feel sorry for yourself and advertise yourself as tough.
Everything is a projection but just because so doesn't make it less true. I dont know how you saw my post as whiney as I was trying to relate to him and show him it can get better. Its not whiney to say life ***** lol it is what it is. I'm a Pisces rising, I hate most of the things about this world haha.

My point is when I've been like him tough love helped me. Enabling me made things worse. So I dont think he needs someone to feel sorry for him cos he is doing that by himself quite enough.

This mental state is dangerous because it self sustains. He deflects any suggestion of advice, honestly no one can help him if he believes planets control his life.

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They suggested me to use Mars energy to get boost,true or not,i don't understand it how to use this positive energy.
Mars energy is strength , perseverance, resilience. Think of a warrior. Mars would say "***** that I will make it regardless of anything. " It's passion its drive. It's something we all have but not something we all use.

If you don't use this energy positively you could end up being mean and angry and rude that being manifested in the house it sits.
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I cannot control the whole situation,under pressure and due to lack of time,retiring and returing back to misery,hopelessness,self isolation etc stuff.Just i can't understand how some squeres,planets,bad sings still,after so many years,will not fade away.I am alone,whole lifetime,there is an explanation for this in my natal,but the answer when loneliness will go away,not there.
Do you even read what people are saying or you just automatically respond with self pity?
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Re: Chronic Loneliness and Depression

If you understand , each planet activate/works at a particular time or year.
That why i wrote this. So, if a weak planet is on it's turn, that possibly won't show up good results in your case. The same weak planet might be strong or weak for a particular house. Taking your 12 houses for the planet, it's behaviour might be different in different houses

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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

Nightfall, have you phoned your doctors and made an appointment too see him yet or have you been burying your head in the sand?
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Not yet,first years could not stand the costs of visit doctor,now i'm working but still salary isn't something special,need to earn some money first of all.Second,is the decision i cannot take to make this visit and get a diagnosis,so i've been burying my head in the sand for the last 15 years,reality i can say.
Iím glad you said not *yet* sorry you havenít been able to afford **** medication, itís free in the NHS here. But yeah, once in a depression hole, itís probably necessary. It will help you learn guitar etc cos youíll be more motivated.

Once the planets stop kicking your *** (other astrologers said January 2020) then hopefully you can start slowly finding your feet and enjoying life.

Until then, get stoned and keep hanging in there dude. Getting stoned was my comfort blanket too. I used to get so much thoughts it was like a Ďwhite noiseí I couldnít handle, and weed helped that.
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Re: Struggling in every possible area.

Nightfall: I use to struggle with chronic depression and anxiety. Worked my butt off to heal. What finally worked for me was a Dr. in psychiatry who used hypnosis to cure post traumatic stress. Six weeks and I walked out a new person.

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