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Unread 06-09-2019, 04:39 AM
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What's the dominant planet in my chart?

Here's the link to my birth chart: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca...aw#tabs_redraw

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Unread 06-09-2019, 04:46 AM
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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

Can you post your actual chart? That would be more helpful. The free charts at Astrodienst www.astro.com are the most legible.

Just judging from the little table, you have a (modern) Uranus in Aquarius (domiciled) and Mars in Capricorn (traditional, exalted.) Mars is also in the first house (angular.)
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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

I posted the wrong link! Sorry! Here you go: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca....2#tabs_redraw
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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

Sometimes it's hard to pick just one "strongest planet", and then different planets get activated at different times of your life. The horoscope has to work as a whole.

I'm kind of leaning towards Mars for the aforementioned reasons. Also, it's not hit by stressful aspects, in making just the one major aspect, a sextile, to Mercury.

I note that you also have Jupiter in Leo and the sun in Pisces in mutual reception. Jupiter is the traditional ruler of Pisces. Planets in mutual reception are like best friends who help each other out, with their friendship making them stronger than either one would be on his own.

Pluto is interesting, being right on your ascendant. This is normally a strong position for a planet, but it is opposed by Saturn ("Dr. No" of the zodiac) and both of them square your sun in a T-square formation. This gets kind of rough on your sun, which symbolizes your identity or sense of self. If you're not careful, you can find yourself enmeshed in a "dominate or be dominated" response to relationships. It may be difficult to trust the universe to support you.

You are probably very creative, and blessed with a rich imagination, with your Venus-Neptune conjunction trine your moon. Hopefully this is something you can develop during your student years.
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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

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I posted the wrong link! Sorry! Here you go: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca....2#tabs_redraw
Almutem Figuris is an old doctrine
where one planet according to certain calculations applied,
receives the honors to be the Ruler or Lord of the Chart
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these are the instructions for the method

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The word Almutes is an Arabian word which means 'Winner'
Because, the planet is the Winner of all the 'life giving' places.

Or the places which are most sensible and important in the natal figure.

The method which we'll use here I call Ezra/Zoller method.
Arabian Astrologer Ibn Ezra (1089 — 1164) was the first (as far as we at this moment are aware) to explicitely wrote about calculating the Almutem Figuris.

In his writings Zoller trace the beginnings of this Almutem Figuris and he found it in the writings of Iambichus (c. 245–c. 325) who was Syrian neo-platonic philosopher who wrote also about Astrology in his writings.
Iambicus in his work "Theurgy or on the mysteries of Egypt" speaks about the thing how one can change his fate. He speaks that he can do that through Theurgy and through personal relationship with the Lord of the Geniture of which he (Iambichus) only says that can be known through Astrology, but he didn't explained the method.
Zoller, tracing back the Ibn Ezra's ancestry, through the Sabaeans and his teachers (Mashallah and other) all the way to the first centuries where this doctrine was thought. Because of that line Zoller thinks that the Lord of the Geniture of which Iambichus speaks in his writings is in fact the Almutem Figuris of the Ibn Ezra.

Iambichus speaks (through the name of Porphyry) about the Peculiar Daimon, that is some kind of an Guardian Angel and it is conected to the personal soul but its not the same
Here's what Iambichus says in his Theurgy:
This [daimon] therefore is present as an exemplar before the souls descend into the realm of generated existence. As soon as the soul chooses him for leader the [daimon] immediately comes into charge of completing of its vital endowments and when it descends into the body it unites with the body and becomes the guardian of it common living principle. He likewise directs the the private life of the soul and
whatever the conclusions we may arrive at by inference and reasoning he himself imparts to us the principles."


Zoller about the Almutem Figuris says that it is equally as powerful as all the other planets taken together."

Benjamin Dykes (great student of Zoller) says about Almutem Figuris:
"Almutem Figuris, a powerful planet in the natal figure whose spirit or angel acts as the native's special link to the Divine. The Almutem Figuris is a spiritual astrological delineation, similar to but not the same as Lilly's the "Lord of the Geniture." But like Lilly (and Plato), the Almutem Figuris was taken to affect the native's thoughts, beliefs and character. Spiritual enlightenment can demand that we open our eyes to this particular planet and use it to access the Divine. Significantly, this is a function that many modern astrologers now attribute to the sun sign." (In his article on Happiness).

The method of calculation

1. Find the Essential Dignities (the 5 dignities, apply 3 points to all 3 triplicity rulers), in the Degree of the:
- Sun
- Moon
- Ascendant
- Part of Fortune
- Syzygy (the prenatal lunation, the one that came last, i.e. after which the birth follows - New or Full Moon).

2. Add 7 points for the Day ruler and 6 points to the Hour ruler.

3. Add accidental dignities scores.

For the planet in 1st house you add 12 points.
10th house = 11 points
7th house = 10
4th house = 9
11th = 8
5th = 7
2nd = 6
9th = 5
8th = 4
3rd = 3
12th = 2
6th = 1

The planet which has most points in the aforesaid places is the Almutem Figuris of the chart!

Don't forget to apply the 5 degrees ruler for the planet near the cusp of the houses. For example, if Saturn is at 15 Scorpio in 4th, but the 5th house cusp is at 19 Scorpio, you will calculate that Saturn already in the 5th, and you will give him 7 points instead of 9 as he would took if he was in 4th house. This can make big difference.

The free traditional astrology software - Morinus (google it), calcualte the Almutem Figuris. You can find this option by typing F3. But I should warn you that in that calculation is included some adding of points according to the planets phases. Zoller did not mention any kind of phases calculation so at this moment I'm not aware why the author of the software did included that.

But the best way and more enjoyable is to calculate it with your own hand. You will be familiar with the chart more deeply if you do this calculations with your own hand as the older astrologers did.
And if you must use the Morinus software than subtract the phases scores and you will get the Almutem Figuris right. All else is the same calculation as the Ezra/Zoller method.

Zoller gives short discriptions for every planet being Almutem Figuris:

Sun:
"If the Almuten figuris is the Sun, the native will want to lead, express his creative power and be recognized."

Moon:
"If the Moon, s/he will want to care for, be cared for, eat and make love, dream"

Mercury:
"If it is Mercury, s/he will be diligent in the sciences, business and communications"

Venus:
"Id it is Venus s/he will be a lover of beauty, of music, of men and women etc."

Mars:
"If it is Mars, s/he will fight in order to dominate"

Jupiter:
"If it is Jupiter, s/he will philosophize and teach"

Saturn:
"If it is Saturn he will retire from society, investigate hidden things and suffer adversity.""
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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

Following Chris Brennan's Youtube 'The Master of the Nativity: Finding the Ruler of the Chart'

1)Change house system to quadrant or equal house.
2)Determine which luminar is more angular
3)Determine which is Eastern, or left side of chart
4)Determine the sect of Sun and Moon. In day chart Sun is predominator, night chart Moon is the predominator

Looking at your chart the Sun is angular in a equal house and Moon is cadent.
So even though Moon is predominate in your night chart, the angular Sun wins out because of its angularity.

From there you take the ruler of the Sun and that is the master of your chart. Jupiter is the ruler of your chart according to this method.

The list JUPITERASC provided for meaning of ruling planet I personally find accurate.

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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

There are different ways to find the chart ruler. One could argue that it is the strongest planet.

Modern astrology simplifies life by saying, it's the planet ruling the sign on the ascendant. But then doesn't do much with it, preferring to take a more holistic view of the entire chart.

In addition to the methods outlined above, traditional western astrology would look for the planet with (a) the most essential dignity, or (b) the most essential and accidental dignity. On essential dignity, see: http://www.skyscript.co.uk/essential_dignities.html . Accidental dignities are things particular to the individual's chart, like being in a house with the cusp as a chart angle, notably the first or the 10th; or being in-sect.

Failing that much more advanced level of astrology, you might just start with the planet you most identify with, and get to know it better.
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Re: What's the dominant planet in my chart?

Pluto is your strongest planet. Its angular and luminated...

March on to your our drummer. Live in a world trying to find your own self without the bias of others. Be the child of miracles like the big bang. Be the kin of the planet that is only black white. Like a light switch whatever it touches is either in full power or isn't even in existence at all..
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