No.
I disagree.
Im sorry but people read things superficialy sometimes. Are bullies strong people? no,bullies are extremely,more often than not,insecure, cowardly people that need a pack to back them upo otherwise they are litztle people on their own. when someone picks on another,they have a problem within themselfes,not with the other person as we all know,and do you know anz really strong mars or whatnot that needs to do that? not very much. the weak attack the strong.
there is only one planet very much tied to bullying since bullying is about power..PLUTO. and no,tthe bullies dont have Pluto,the bullied do. I analized manz charts of bullied kids,even those bullied to death,and most of them had a strong scorpio-pluto influence in them,which is what Pluto does...those who are bullied are noticed in a crowd,no matter where they trz to hide,if they hid in the back of the room with 50 people the bullies would sniff them out because there is something in them that makes them different than anyone else...why is one girl with glasses and a strange looking outift not gettin picked on,yet the girl sitting right next to her looking exactly the same no different from any other getting hell every day she walks threw the school doors? because of Pluto. It give charisma,but mind u charisma is not ''loved by all'' its when u cant escape the reflector lights no matter where u run...sadly Ive noticed in some rape-murder victims strong Plutos,which is again the ''thing'' in them which makes them stand out in a crowd...
My father was abully,and an all star in his high school,the ring leader or what not,and he has mars in gemini,and afflicted,whilst my mother was bullied by the men in her life and she has a mars in leo,venus in scorpio,moon I think in aries not sure etc. Its not the strong that hurt,its the weak. sadly,until u learn to use your pluto power, other people will excersize it above u, trying to take or destroy the power what the bullied has. if you dont become your Pluto,others will be your Pluto,because that is the nature of Pluto,execution style.
btw I was bullied and later turned bully though I never insulted put anyone down,rather I just became very very mean and agressive,and intimidating,I hurt when I needed to.
Of course it's psychological violence. Peer abuse isn't just kids being kids, it's abuse. Why don't we call it what it is?I'm bullied in school for 5 years. I call it psychological violence. It causes a depression in me which won't leave me for years. I live a nightmare. I tried to die for escape.
I don't have Chiron in the 5th. I have it in the 4th, right at my IC. I had a stable home life growing up, but a nightmare outside of home.Sorry for being so stubborn...
but I think is fault of Chiron in the 5th. In general.
I was bullied because:
Sun/Neptune in natal 11th house
Uranus in MC
Transiting Uranus/Neptune were transiting my 11th/12th houses at that time.
Transiting Pluto was transiting my 10th house at that time.
Excellent point that these are generational planets. Your pointing that out really hit home to me, and it led me to do some research.Of course, what figures strong here with Pluto and other outer planets is it is generational... so in grade school, where everyone is the same age, all the other kids have their Pluto square your planets as well... or Neptune, or Uranus.
So everyone must've had that energy affecting them. Why or how that might've made me the bullies' target, I'd like to explore....
What do you mean? Are you talking about the moon and Chiron in my natal chart, or transits, or progressions when I was grade school age? How does that relate to those generational planets affecting everyone in my grade?Did you check your moon or Chiron perhaps?
What do you mean? Are you talking about the moon and Chiron in my natal chart, or transits, or progressions when I was grade school age? How does that relate to those generational planets affecting everyone in my grade?
Yes, I refered to other natal placements in your chart (Chiron and maybe some other planets). It seemed to me that you want to explore in other direction, away from generational planets affecting everyone because here is no logic - since all clasmates were under the same influence of generational planets there has to be something else that made someone a target.
There is somewhere a thread about Chiron conjunct Ascendant connected with experiences with bullying at school. So, I was wandering if anybody here has this placement or any other significant indication of abuse in natal chart (besides Pluto and Uranus transits).
I have a Pluto-Mars sesquisquare and a Pluto-Mercury conjunction, and I've hit others in my school, and verbally abused people because of my IED... (and I have Pluto square Saturn, and I'm heavily bullied at school as an autistic biracial anarcho-communist).Hi,
Iam not an expert on this subject but I recognized a few things in this matter.
Sun in hard aspect to Saturn I found often in charts of people who become victims rather than the opposite. In general I consider Saturn more with getting bullied rather than bully someone else.
Neptun and Moon is probably also on the losing end.
Aries and Leo ACs, Mars and Suns I would think of as more into bullying others than the opposite but one has always to look at the whole chart.
Pluto in hard aspect to Mercury can cause people to verbally abuse others, in hard aspect to Mars it can lead to physical violence. Pluto likes to take things to the extrem.
That sounds like me now, as I exploded in front of my bullies, and I fought with them, even though I'm disabled. Mars sextile Moon, Mars trine Sun vibes.I'm still in school
what makes me be intimidated is moon trine Neptune,uranus conj.ruler of asc, Neptune and Uranus square sun and saturn in 5 house
what to do intimidating is... Mars in the first house?
Mercury in Scorpio makes me speak aggressive things I suppose.
I suffered bullying
I still suffer, but now people talk as if he were joking, I look like smoking pot and i'm lonely. okay
in the childhood I suffered many insults because of my ethnicity and felt hurt, but I also knew how far i could endure and fought hard in school, I insulted who insulted me, and beat if it were not a bunch,when I do not take it anymore, I took an English punch and I remember when I was expelled from school for breaking the nose of a guy
I had a fighting last year and before that, some people still afraid of me, I hope it stays that way,because I have an underlying afraid
I hate school,one of worst things in my life
to improve, I repeated one year omggg