Bona Fortuna? 11th House?

JUPITERASC

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Jupiter,


Isn't the 9th house is cadent house?
Ancient Greek said the planets energy move away from the native [as you said too else where]
Sun,
-
9th IS Cadent
HOWEVER
9th being trigon ascendant
is considered "best" of Cadent houses

i.e.
3rd is Cadent
BUT
3rd is hexagon ascendant
and so
both 3rd and 9th aspect ascendant
but then
trigon "better than" hexagon :smile:
so 9th is thought "better than 3rd"
and therefore
6th and 12th considered "worst" of Cadents
because

disjunct aka IN AVERSION to ascendant
i.e.
6th and 12th do not aspect the ascendant
 

JUPITERASC

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however it's Jupiter own place, along with the 6th house and his joyful 11th house.
This why I thought Jupiter is lame in my chart
[despite domiciled and in it's own bound in system A].
The joyfulness of Sun in my personal observation
because Sun rays in this particular hour [9th place]
would be less heating, at least in equator.






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heidy26

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JUPITERASC

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That is not applicable for a lot of cases.
Just thought yesterday about this marriage delineation and let's take this chart as an example:
https://ibb.co/sqNfkqj

Venus is in the 11th, along with Mars and Moon and free from combustion. Without diving into details, there is marriage promise, but it wasn't the way we expected it.
 

JUPITERASC

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that is not applicable for a lot of cases.
just thought yesterday about this marriage delineation
and let's take this chart as an example:
https://ibb.co/sqnfkqj
says it is "nonexistent link" :smile:

venus is in the 11th, along with mars and moon and free from combustion.
without diving into details,
there is marriage promise, but
it wasn't the way we expected it.
 
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SunConjunctUranus

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Jupiter,

Not sure you have pointing out ascendant ruler as Venus and then bringing in Dorotheus methodology which is system A basis. Lul :smile:

Moon and Mars were stake as you said.
 

JUPITERASC

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Strange, it works when i click on it. Here's another link:
https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/keanu-reeves/
but that is Keanu Reeves chart :smile:

but you said

venus is in the 11th, along with mars and moon and free from combustion.
without diving into details,
there is marriage promise, but
it wasn't the way we expected it.
Yes, it is. As far as I can recall, his personal life wasn't that bright
and he is not married currently.
We are delineating using the technique, aren't we ?
we are discussing Sun's thread topic
Bona Fortuna? 11th house? :smile:
which is relevant to Sun's chart
 

heidy26

Well-known member
but that is Keanu Reeves chart :smile:

but you said



we are discussing Sun's thread topic
Bona Fortuna? 11th house? :smile:
which is relevant to Sun's chart

Yes, there is no need to delineate further - that's what I meant by "there is no need to dive into details". No need to say that 11th house is masculine, or that there is an affliction due to the Mars joining and Mars happens to be in its fall, or where are the planets posited in relation to the horizon and so on.
Yes, I know that there is a different discussion here, but there you go, it fits. There is 11th house setting and not only.
This was just an example. There are plenty others and it surely proves that the fact there were different approaches is reasonable as per Valens, Dorotheus etc
 
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JUPITERASC

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Yes, there is no need to delineate further
- that's what I meant by "there is no need to dive into details".
No need to say that 11th house is masculine,
or that there is an affliction due to the Mars joining
and Mars happens to be in its fall, or
where are the planets posited in relation to the horizon and so on.


Yes, I know that there is a different discussion here, but there you go, it fits.

There is 11th house setting and not only.
This was just an example.
There are plenty others
and it surely proves that the fact there were different approaches is reasonable
as per Valens, Dorotheus etc
The highlighted quote you responded to
was simply one or two sentences only of Dorotheus guidelines :smile:
on this particular thread topic under discussion

so nothing has been proven relevant to Dorotheus methodology
since the entire comment by Dorotheus has not been posted
and has not been fully discussed
 

heidy26

Well-known member
The highlighted quote you responded to
was simply one or two sentences only of Dorotheus guidelines :smile:
on this particular thread topic under discussion

so nothing has been proven relevant to Dorotheus methodology
since the entire comment by Dorotheus has not been posted
and has not been fully discussed
I am aware of the thread opened here that details the method. This chart fits the delineation and it is actually a not so bad chart (as you already know, there is no perfect chart unless we are in a perfect Universe).
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Jupiter,

Moon and Mars were stake as you said.
Sun,


Moon and Mars occupy same stake
assembled with Sun :smile:
hence "combust"
however
Hellenistic astrologers did not pay much attention to "combustion"

question is
which of those three
i.e.
Sun, Moon, Mars
has the greatest ability to "carry out its business"
 
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