Social Responsiveness in the Natal Chart

Denied Anthropophobic

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I’m looking for ideas on starting indicators of responsiveness in communication. I’m my thought process is to look at the Moon, 3rd house and possibly Mars and the rulers of the Moon and the 3rd house. But what are some other natal arrangements possibilities that can speak on this or even social sensitivity, nervousness, or fixation? In terms of brainstorming.

My chart as an example,

I pick up on the environment around me and it effects my feelings. I contribute this to moon in Libra conjunct my 3rd house cusp, but also moon aspecting my ascendant exactly. Because of this sensitivity, I worry about socializing with others. I don’t enjoy the receptivity of whatever is happening and haven’t really found a way to detach from this. I think distancing myself from people helps, but I also feel as if I meant to speak freely, I’m thinking this has to do with Mars conjunct Mercury.

I don’t know if I would claim that I have social anxiety, because I don’t know enough about it, but I would say there is a sensitivity. Such as empathizing with others but wanting distance. Socializing with others, but never really reaching anything in the socialization then wishing I didn’t try in the first place. Always pondering about what I just said not meaning that I regret it, but there is just still thinking about it in terms of what my intentions were, what is likely the response of the other person.

I don’t think my chart needs to post, because I’m looking more for ideas on starting indicators that describe this social sensitivity, I’m talking about in a general sense rather than a chart reading. But if you think there is merit, I can come back and add my chart.

In your opinion, what would some other indictors be? What do you think about the ones I have mentioned above such as moon, mercury, mars, 3rd house? Are there others, that I may not have thought about? Of course, each chart may have different indicators, but what are some of the possibilities? Would you agree that they be tethered to Moon, Mercury, Mars and 3rd house in some way? Do you know of any examples of when this was not the case?
 

bluerosepetals

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I pick up on the environment around me and it effects my feelings. I contribute this to moon in Libra conjunct my 3rd house cusp, but also moon aspecting my ascendant exactly.

Ditto. Moon aspecting your Asc/first house is going to do this. You will feel emotionally responsive to your environment, you will wear your heart on your sleeve, althought I believe this is more pronounced with Moon-Asc conjunction.

Mercury in the first house can also do this, but these people will be more mentally/intellectually responsive to their environment. Their first reaction won't be emotional.

Pisces Ascendant can do this, as well as Pisces Sun/Moon. Neptune can also play a part, especially if it's influencing your 1st house.
 

Denied Anthropophobic

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Ditto. Moon aspecting your Asc/first house is going to do this. You will feel emotionally responsive to your environment, you will wear your heart on your sleeve, althought I believe this is more pronounced with Moon-Asc conjunction.

Mercury in the first house can also do this, but these people will be more mentally/intellectually responsive to their environment. Their first reaction won't be emotional.

Pisces Ascendant can do this, as well as Pisces Sun/Moon. Neptune can also play a part, especially if it's influencing your 1st house.

I have also noticed this with moon conjunct that Asc. I had a close friend who had that aspect in Gemini. I’ve always felt she was an emotional person and wore her heart on her sleeve but reacted rationally. I think I only sensed her emotions because of my Moon-Asc aspect.
I’ve read that about mercury in the 1st, haven’t knowingly interact with a person with that aspect.
Interesting you have said Pisces/Neptune, because when writing this I am wondering about the outer planets too! At first, I had Uranus in mind, but Neptunian Pisces has a strong receptivity. I can imagine that. That will be interesting to look into. Thank you!
 

katydid

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I’m looking for ideas on starting indicators of responsiveness in communication. I’m my thought process is to look at the Moon, 3rd house and possibly Mars and the rulers of the Moon and the 3rd house. But what are some other natal arrangements possibilities that can speak on this or even social sensitivity, nervousness, or fixation? In terms of brainstorming.

My chart as an example,

I pick up on the environment around me and it effects my feelings. I contribute this to moon in Libra conjunct my 3rd house cusp, but also moon aspecting my ascendant exactly. Because of this sensitivity, I worry about socializing with others. I don’t enjoy the receptivity of whatever is happening and haven’t really found a way to detach from this. I think distancing myself from people helps, but I also feel as if I meant to speak freely, I’m thinking this has to do with Mars conjunct Mercury.

I don’t know if I would claim that I have social anxiety, because I don’t know enough about it, but I would say there is a sensitivity. Such as empathizing with others but wanting distance. Socializing with others, but never really reaching anything in the socialization then wishing I didn’t try in the first place. Always pondering about what I just said not meaning that I regret it, but there is just still thinking about it in terms of what my intentions were, what is likely the response of the other person.

I don’t think my chart needs to post, because I’m looking more for ideas on starting indicators that describe this social sensitivity, I’m talking about in a general sense rather than a chart reading. But if you think there is merit, I can come back and add my chart.

In your opinion, what would some other indictors be? What do you think about the ones I have mentioned above such as moon, mercury, mars, 3rd house? Are there others, that I may not have thought about? Of course, each chart may have different indicators, but what are some of the possibilities? Would you agree that they be tethered to Moon, Mercury, Mars and 3rd house in some way? Do you know of any examples of when this was not the case?

You mentioned :

"my thought process is to look at the Moon, 3rd house and possibly Mars and the rulers of the Moon and the 3rd house. "

I would agree to Moon, Mercury and Mars as being indicative of Social Responsiveness in the chart, but the Sun would be a major factor as well.

The Sun embodies your intrinsic character and the manner in which your personality develops and thrives.




"But what are some other natal arrangements possibilities that can speak on this or even social sensitivity, nervousness, or fixation? "

I think sensitivity, nervousness and fixation can come about through difficult placements and aspects from the malefics.

Sensitivity can be sometimes attributed to difficult aspects to Moon/Mars/Mercury in WATER signs,
in angular houses/cardinal signs. Also conjunctions with Neptune to a personal planet or involving the 12th house. Also Chiron can add great sensitivity, for better or worse. [My granddaughter has Neptune in Pisces in the first square Mercury in Gemini in the 4th, and she is extremely sensitive, including sensitive physically to medicines or certain foods. ---allergies]

Nervousness is often seen in AIR SIGNS,and or mutable signs/cadent houses where there are tense aspects with personal planets involved. Moon square Mercury , 3rd to 6th or in mutable signs could create anxiety, nervousness, for example. Uranus can amp up the nerves as well. {my niece has a lot of panic attacks. She has Uranus in Sag, conjunct her Mercury in the 3rd house, squaring her Pisces Moon.

Fixation can often involve EARTH and or fixed signs, succedent houses and tense aspects between Personals and Mars, Pluto, Saturn. Moon conjunct/square Pluto in Scorpio can become fixated or obsessed with an ex lover to the point of stalking, for example.
My daughters ex had Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio square his Saturn in Aquarius. His Saturn was conjunct my daughter's Moon and we had to get a restraining order because he was stallkng and threatening her when they broke up.
 
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Hi, So I tend to look all over the chart for clues if something feels really potent for me/you. You clearly are attuned to the mercury, moon, ascendant trio, which is very telling and clear and an awesome start but I am sensing there is something more.
I also would wonder where your Saturn placement is since Saturn rules our fears and limitations, so a Gemini placed in Saturn or aspecting would also bring up fears about socializing. I would also parse out socializing verses emotional boundaries. Everyone is looking for "optimal distance" meaning each person has a unique desire for both closeness and space and so knowing and identifying yours would be helpful. Is it only in groups that you are absorbing people's energy or is it also one-on-one. Having an emotionally/physically intrusive parent can often overwhelm the child and create a blueprint for interaction, so looking at other natal aspects could be helpful here, if you would like to really go deeply into it.
 

Denied Anthropophobic

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Hi, So I tend to look all over the chart for clues if something feels really potent for me/you. You clearly are attuned to the mercury, moon, ascendant trio, which is very telling and clear and an awesome start but I am sensing there is something more.
I also would wonder where your Saturn placement is since Saturn rules our fears and limitations, so a Gemini placed in Saturn or aspecting would also bring up fears about socializing. I would also parse out socializing verses emotional boundaries. Everyone is looking for "optimal distance" meaning each person has a unique desire for both closeness and space and so knowing and identifying yours would be helpful. Is it only in groups that you are absorbing people's energy or is it also one-on-one. Having an emotionally/physically intrusive parent can often overwhelm the child and create a blueprint for interaction, so looking at other natal aspects could be helpful here, if you would like to really go deeply into it.
Thank you for your reply. I agree, that looking all over the chart is important too. I was trying to intellectualize from a general stance and was hoping those with aspects and placements in those three would talk about their charts or charts they have encountered with that. I used my own as an example, I agree that the particulars of an individual chart are important. I can see how emotional boundaries and early parental figures could influence this in my chart. This would explain some of my sensitivity, but I am also curious about Moon-Mercury in the 3rd house placements and how various aspects to these planets and in different signs affect chart holders and their social life or how they relate emotionally to their social life.
 

Humanitarian

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I don't want to be social, but I have to, and that is represented by my Asc in Gemini and Moon in Libra, but chart ruler in 8th house in Capricorn, and Capricorn wants to be both alone and social at the same time (more alone though), and my undiagnosed autism, too is the reason why I don't have a good social responsiveness at all (but I will eventually have good social responsiveness, I hope).
 
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