The chart of a still virgin woman of 29yo (not by choice)

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Kleinekaro

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The chart's link: http://m.imgur.com/sFy5akq


I am having some trouble with some aspects of my life. I never had a boyfriend and sure, I never had a long term relationship. Never had a man loving me in my life.
But that's not the main issue, someone once told me that I have Chiron in the 7th house in Gemini and two grand crosses more one rectangle. The plus; this person never explained anything about it. He only said that I'll never be happy in love.

And I'm noticing it, since I'm 29 years old and I'm still a virgin woman. I feel sad, in despair and frustrated since it wasn't by choice that I never had a boyfriend, a love.
I still am obsessed over a German man, who I've met on internet in 2006, he came to Brazil in 2007 - in the end, he only wanted me to get a free stay during his Brazil's trip. Even though, he was the only man who gave me some attention, that's why I still love him. Now, he has a family an 1yo son and woman. But if he ever break up with her I would be with him again. I was already in Berlin Germany, by myself, in 2014 - but he gave me lots of excuses to not meet me. :(

Alright, I just wanna know when my saturns return will end, and how can I cope with those Chiron in 7th house and grand crosses in my love life.
I'm very thankful, and save some errors cause English isn' my Mother language.
Thank you.
 
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cocoloco

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I am not sure how to read your chart, but I am in a Saturn transition too. Have you tried approaching men you are interested in? Or try going out with friends?
 
Sweet Pea

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Why have you posted a chart with none of the outer planets showing? If they link to any of your personal planets (Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars especially), they carry important information. I also want to see if there are any aspects to Mercury, ruler of your 7th house.

Just looking at your chart as it is, your Venus/Jupiter opposition on the 5th/11th axis is a promise of a big love, one day so don't despair.

Plenty of people who start relationships in their 20s find that they don't last, because they are still immature (until after their Saturn return) and don't really know what they want in a partner. Partnerships that last are about much more than a sexual connection (Mars).

The guy you are obsessed about still isn't worthy of your love. He was using you, as you admit. Keeping him up there on some pedestal (do you have Venus-Neptune by any chance?) is doing you no good. Learn the lesson, then let go of the past.
 
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Kleinekaro

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Thank you so much sweet pea. I don't know how to post with outer planets in Astro. That's why I didn't post with outer planets. I'll find another site to cast a chart with those planets. Thanks.
 
theV

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Saturn in scorpio in sidereal creates frustration concerning intimacy and sexuality. Mars the ruler of Scorpio rules the 5th house in sidereal so most of frustration might be channeled in house of creativity, children and romance.

Mars ruling the 5th house conjunct the Mc speaks of public personality highly creative and Asc lord in the 5th house you are likely to present yourself as creative individual. You could be working with children as a career or in art. However, this is not our topic.

12th house and 6th house creates delay and frustration and self undoing in sidereal chart. 12th house house of undoing and loss is ruled by Mars and Mars again rules the fifth house. 6th house is ruled by Venus is in the 11th house be careful because you might have hidden enemies pretending to be your friends or friends turning out to be your enemy. Venus is the depositor of the ruler of your 7th house mercury.

Chiron squares the Ruler of the 5th house and the 8th house will brings wounds concerning intimate life and conflict between searching deep long lasting intimate bond or passing, sexual love affair 5th house.

Were there any difficulties in finishing college or university?
 
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Sweet Pea

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Thank you for the new chart.

I presume you have the opportunity to meet and socialise with men? How is that Mars (the highest planet and making a square to the ascendant-descendant axis) working in you? Mars in Virgo can be critical especially when it is square to Chiron (complaining). It can be perfectionist. Mars-Chiron are in the talking/mind signs, Virgo and Gemini. Are you grumpy, do you talk about negative things? Mars squares Uranus in Sagittarius, the sign that says exactly what it thinks and is often very blunt. Mars also connects badly to Jupiter in Aries, and you have Moon in Aries which can be prone to anger. Do you think you put people off with your conversational style? Do you easily get into arguments or say things that, on reflection, were better not said?

Mars square Uranus says that the men you meet may be freedom-lovers, but then the person you get into partnership with is likely to be rather controlling and intense - Mercury (ruler of the 7th house) is conjunct Pluto. This also means that you may obsess about relationships or you may express yourself in friendships (11th house) in a very intense, penetrating way that is scary to some people and when those people have Uranian qualities (Mars-Uranus and Venus-Uranus) they can be put off by your intensity. Mercury-Pluto can also express in extreme ways - either by long, brooding silences, or by talking non-stop and exhausting other people who have to listen to it all. You may also talk-talk-talk about the things that interest you, instead of being interested in what other people would like to talk about.

I know this sounds negative, but you are trying to work out what is going wrong, that you cannot get a boyfriend, and so I'm suggesting some ways that your planets might be manifesting. You can work on yourself so that you become a better friend and potential lover/partner.

As for the sexual aspect, when you have Mars in t-square with Chiron and Uranus, there might be fear or worry about the act itself? So that if a chance for a sexual encounter should approach, you jump back from that possibility?

You must also look at your Sun square Neptune, because when Sun is in Libra, it's like a Venus-Neptune aspect and you can idealise somebody and not see their bad points or the reality of them. Men can be deceiving towards you, like the man who used you. And you can be sacrificing towards them. Pluto was transiting on your Uranus and opposite Chiron at that time, so it's no wonder you had a difficult and obsessing relationship where he detached (Uranus) from you in a wounding (Chiron) way.

There is always hope for the future. Over the next year, Jupiter will conjunct your Sun and your Venus. That may bring a lovely opportunity.
 
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theV said:
Saturn in scorpio in sidereal creates frustration concerning intimacy and sexuality. Mars the ruler of Scorpio rules the 5th house in sidereal so most of frustration might be channeled in house of creativity, children and romance.

Mars ruling the 5th house conjunct the Mc speaks of public personality highly creative and Asc lord in the 5th house you are likely to present yourself as creative individual. You could be working with children as a career or in art. However, this is not our topic.

12th house and 6th house creates delay and frustration and self undoing in sidereal chart. 12th house house of undoing and loss is ruled by Mars and Mars again rules the fifth house. 6th house is ruled by Venus is in the 11th house be careful because you might have hidden enemies pretending to be your friends or friends turning out to be your enemy. Venus is the depositor of the ruler of your 7th house mercury.

Chiron squares the Ruler of the 5th house and the 8th house will brings wounds concerning intimate life and conflict between searching deep long lasting intimate bond or passing, sexual love affair 5th house.

Were there any difficulties in finishing college or university?
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Thank you very much for your wonderful interpretation. Yes, you hit the nail on the head. I'm having lots of trouble finishing my studies. I entered in an excellent university to to get the degree of German languages in 2007. Even with teachers helping me, (I didn't have any German knowledge in that time - I did for love) i couldn't finish. Because of the long time I spent there, the university decided to cancel my matriculation there - it was in 2013. My parents still don't conform with what I did with the course. But, not even me. I regret a lot. :(
Then, I decided in 2014 study management. I still didn't finish it. And the course would be only 2 years. And it's been 4 years already and I can't finish. Will I ever get an university degree?
You really hit the nail on the head on this one. It's another problem I have. Despite, I'm working nowadays as a teacher without the degree. They offered an opportunity because they liked me. But I want an university degree, I know my errors of the past, I overlooked the uni though now I want to get this. :(
 
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theV

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5th house rules university, and college as well as romance and creativity in vedic. With Saturn return, it is a time to resolve these issues. Mars rules the fifth house and Saturn in mars ruled sign definitely creates limitations in the area of Mars.

Chiron Square Chiron, Uranus entering 5th house, and Saturn Return, Sun square Tr pluto going to bring a lot of transformation and sudden changes so hopefully the outcomes would favorable.

Uranus conjunct 5th house:

Sudden developments or surprises in your romantic life are par for the course with Uranus here. This is a time when you free yourself of personal inhibitions that may have been part of your life in the past. It’s a time of more spontaneous expression. This is a playful, somewhat eccentric, position for Uranus. Casual love affairs that have grown stale may be left behind now. You may also attract unusual romances or romantic partners into your life during this cycle.
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Pluto square Sun creates tension to release and let go and shed yourself and start new life.
 
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Kleinekaro

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theV said:
5th house rules university, and college as well as romance and creativity in vedic. With Saturn return, it is a time to resolve these issues. Mars rules the fifth house and Saturn in mars ruled sign definitely creates limitations in the area of Mars.

Chiron Square Chiron, Uranus entering 5th house, and Saturn Return, Sun square Tr pluto going to bring a lot of transformation and sudden changes so hopefully the outcomes would favorable.

Uranus conjunct 5th house:

Pluto square Sun creates tension to release and let go and shed yourself and start new life.
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Thank you so much. Hopefully after the Saturn returns I can resolve those issoues with my university courses. I'm really looking forward. I thank you with the bottom of my heart for your marvelous interpretation. I'm amazed.
 
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Sweet Pea said:
Thank you for the new chart.

I presume you have the opportunity to meet and socialise with men? How is that Mars (the highest planet and making a square to the ascendant-descendant axis) working in you? Mars in Virgo can be critical especially when it is square to Chiron (complaining). It can be perfectionist. Mars-Chiron are in the talking/mind signs, Virgo and Gemini. Are you grumpy, do you talk about negative things? Mars squares Uranus in Sagittarius, the sign that says exactly what it thinks and is often very blunt. Mars also connects badly to Jupiter in Aries, and you have Moon in Aries which can be prone to anger. Do you think you put people off with your conversational style? Do you easily get into arguments or say things that, on reflection, were better not said?

Mars square Uranus says that the men you meet may be freedom-lovers, but then the person you get into partnership with is likely to be rather controlling and intense - Mercury (ruler of the 7th house) is conjunct Pluto. This also means that you may obsess about relationships or you may express yourself in friendships (11th house) in a very intense, penetrating way that is scary to some people and when those people have Uranian qualities (Mars-Uranus and Venus-Uranus) they can be put off by your intensity. Mercury-Pluto can also express in extreme ways - either by long, brooding silences, or by talking non-stop and exhausting other people who have to listen to it all. You may also talk-talk-talk about the things that interest you, instead of being interested in what other people would like to talk about.

I know this sounds negative, but you are trying to work out what is going wrong, that you cannot get a boyfriend, and so I'm suggesting some ways that your planets might be manifesting. You can work on yourself so that you become a better friend and potential lover/partner.

As for the sexual aspect, when you have Mars in t-square with Chiron and Uranus, there might be fear or worry about the act itself? So that if a chance for a sexual encounter should approach, you jump back from that possibility?

You must also look at your Sun square Neptune, because when Sun is in Libra, it's like a Venus-Neptune aspect and you can idealise somebody and not see their bad points or the reality of them. Men can be deceiving towards you, like the man who used you. And you can be sacrificing towards them. Pluto was transiting on your Uranus and opposite Chiron at that time, so it's no wonder you had a difficult and obsessing relationship where he detached (Uranus) from you in a wounding (Chiron) way.

There is always hope for the future. Over the next year, Jupiter will conjunct your Sun and your Venus. That may bring a lovely opportunity.
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I'm a really calm person, everybody knows me because I'm always smiling. Despite the problems, im the miss smile where I work. I don't have male friends, and I don't socialize at all with men. Where I work is only women, so no chance. Most of them are married so, no chance to go out with them tô Hang out and find a love. They've already found theirs. I'm a really reserved person maybe that's the problem, since men have a hard time to see if I'm interested or not in them. They should transpass many Barrers to get to know me. As I'm easily hurt, not all can get to know me. But, with women I don't have any problem, they always want to talk to me, have friendship with me. I really don't understand this, seems the men have a huge fear of me. Don't know. That's why I'm looking for an answer in astrology. Maybe it could help me to find a path in love and relationships.

Yes, you're right. I have a huge fear of the act, not of the act itself. But after, being used and left behind. I guess everybody has those fears. I don't want to have sex and after - this man despises me, gives up of me. That's my biggest fear.

I thank you so much for your interpretation! Indeed.
 
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cocoloco said:
I am not sure how to read your chart, but I am in a Saturn transition too. Have you tried approaching men you are interested in? Or try going out with friends?
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I've tried, but they only seem to be interested, then they suddenly disappear. Or they don't answer me on internet, they suddenly lose the interest - I guess. :( and I jump back when there is a chance of sex. And nowadays, no man will wait for a 29yo has sex for the 1st time, many will never ever believe this. So, they run behind other better prospects of having easier sex. With me would be almost impossible.
I don't go out, that's another problem. I work overtime and I only have Friday as a day off. My social life isn't the best one, actually my life is all about my work.

Seeing through all the answers, it would be very hard to find love. That makes me really sad and depressed. Even thoughts of getting back at the German man who used me, run through my mind. I was thinking about send to the woman he's with, a warning signal. She will be alert, and he'll fight with him.
 
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Kleinekaro said:
I've tried, but they only seem to be interested, then they suddenly disappear. Or they don't answer me on internet, they suddenly lose the interest - I guess. :( and I jump back when there is a chance of sex. And nowadays, no man will wait for a 29yo has sex for the 1st time, many will never ever believe this. So, they run behind other better prospects of having easier sex. With me would be almost impossible.
I don't go out, that's another problem. I work overtime and I only have Friday as a day off. My social life isn't the best one, actually my life is all about my work.

Seeing through all the answers, it would be very hard to find love. That makes me really sad and depressed. Even thoughts of getting back at the German man who used me, run through my mind. I was thinking about send to the woman he's with, a warning signal. She will be alert, and he'll fight with him.
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Dont do that. If he never liked you, he won't like you even more after you ruin his marriage. My philosophy in life is if you work hard, you play hard too. Life is not all about work. Go on vacation, go out with friends, go shopping, or whatever you like to do. If you see a guy you think you may be interested in, then approach him. You have a lot of air signs, so I would assume that you are more of an extrovert who loves social events.
 
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Kleinekaro said:
Yes, you're right. I have a huge fear of the act, not of the act itself. But after, being used and left behind. I guess everybody has those fears. I don't want to have sex and after - this man despises me, gives up of me. That's my biggest fear.
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Every woman has had this fear. Most have experienced feeling "used" for sex even if some longer term relationships not just one-nighters.

A favorite quote of mine from Anais Nin "One's life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." That may not be verbatim but the sentiment is important.

It might be very helpful if you posted your chart.
 
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Kleinekaro,

I apologize that I did not notice the link for your chart. I took a look at it.

The grand square is formed with Chiron on one end. Some astrologers would not consider Chiron a major planet , just an asteroid , and so would not consider this grand square at all. After all before Chiron was discovered no astrologer would have said that your chart has a grand square. Chiron in your chart makes favorable aspects to both Jupiter and Venus - this is beneficial and can help ameliorate some of the negative aspects of Chiron. The planet that "rules" your partnership house , the seventh house, has only good aspects to it and that points to possibility of a happy union somewhere in your future.

What I see coming that may be very helpful is that Saturn will soon cross your Ascendant and enter the first house. This will be a time when it would be appropriate to change the mask you wear out in the world - a time to change your image and way of presenting yourself. You can find many interpretations of this transit on the internet.

I think you biggest issue may be from having your Moon conjunct the North Node in the Fourth house - it suggests a great need for security, much emotional sensitivity and excessive worries. The Moon is also opposite Mars which can bring difficulties with men, but it also suggests that you have difficulty feeling at peace. I think if you work at feeling better, finding ways to be more peaceful and emotionally calm you may create an energy that will attract what you desire. have you looked into Law of Attraction work? it might help.

I am curious - can you tell me what your relationship with your mother is like? Was she very fearful herself? Or did she try to keep you tightly tied to her?

There are quite a few challenging aspects in your chart. Each one denotes a spiritual test of sorts- Astrology is perhaps the best way to unravel each of them and then learn how to make the best of them.
Good luck,
Barb at thelivingsky.wordpress.com
 
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thelivingsky said:
Kleinekaro,


I think you biggest issue may be from having your Moon conjunct the North Node in the Fourth house - it suggests a great need for security, much emotional sensitivity and excessive worries. The Moon is also opposite Mars which can bring difficulties with men, but it also suggests that you have difficulty feeling at peace. I think if you work at feeling better, finding ways to be more peaceful and emotionally calm you may create an energy that will attract what you desire. have you looked into Law of Attraction work? it might help.

I am curious - can you tell me what your relationship with your mother is like? Was she very fearful herself? Or did she try to keep you tightly tied to her?

There are quite a few challenging aspects in your chart. Each one denotes a spiritual test of sorts- Astrology is perhaps the best way to unravel each of them and then learn how to make the best of them.
Good luck,
Barb at thelivingsky.wordpress.com
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Thank you so much. What worries the most is that you wrote that i have lots of challenging aspects in my chart. That's so sad. I'm noticing that I must cope with several things not only in love. My mother and I are best friends, but in my teen years not only her but my father kept me tightly. It wasnt easy to release. And now, I don't want to release of them at all. Cause, I'm a person that doesn't believe in anybody. For me, everybody is my enemy even proving wrong. They're the only ones I believe in.



Thank you so much for your interpretation!
 
Sweet Pea

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Your biggest problem is not your chart, it's your lifestyle. You live for work (10th house Sun), you hardly socialise, you do not mix with men in a way that they can get to know you as a friend before being a lover. If you get to know men as friends first, they will be willing to wait until you are ready before having sex. Too much emphasis is placed on sex which is basically just animal lust, the combining of chemicals. It is MARS energy. It has nothing at all to do with love which is VENUS. You have Venus in the 11th house of friends, and also Mercury, ruler of your 7th house is there. It is in a group of friends that you are going to find love one of these days.

Trying to meet people over the internet is full of problems from men pretending to be something they are not (like they are single, not married) which your Sun-Neptune square will fail to recognise, to meeting people who are on the other side of the planet and it's hard to get a real-life relationship going.

That's why you need to meet men in your own location. Maybe you need NOT to do overtime all weekend? Maybe you need a different job? If your job is all-important to you, then that is a choice you have made. But it's unbalanced, and Libra never likes this really.

I advise you to leave this German guy alone now. He is not going to leave his wife and child for you. You are a fun fantasy to him; you have never had a real relationship with him, so leaving his wife for you would be a huge risk and could easily not work out. And why would you want to marry a man who is unfaithful over the internet with another woman? Once he was with you, he might be looking for other women..... some men are quickly bored. It is even possible that you are not the only 'other woman' that he contacts in this way.

Don't ruin his life because that karma will come back to you one day. Just cut all contact and move on. You have a sociable Libra Sun, which Jupiter is now transiting towards. But Jupiter won't come and find you while you're sitting at home. You need to mix and socialise and above all, just make friends with men first and learn who they are before getting into deep water relationships. Maybe the best time of all will come when Jupiter has transited into your 11th house and is conjunct your Venus.

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