How do you examine a relationship ?
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bittermoon
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I only use synastry charts as they show compatibility/incompatibility. In my opinion an event chart might describe that particular event but is separate from the personalities of the people involved.
BobZemco
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Survey says...Door #1.
What you want to see is the same Ascendant Ruler (use the traditional Planets -- not the Outers since they rule nothing).
If Ascendant Rulers are not the same, then you want to see the Ascendant Rulers in each other's Signs of Rulership or Exaltation. It would be nice if they were in aspect, but if not, don't worry.
Some examples: Ascendant Rulers are Sun and Mars then you want to see Sun in Aries, Scorpio or Capricorn; and Mars in Leo. Ascendant Rulers are Moon and Mercury, then you want to see Mercury in Cancer, Moon in Virgo/Gemini; Ascendant Rulers are Saturn and Venus, then Saturn in Taurus, Libra or Pisces and Venus in Capricorn, Libra or Aquarius
If you don't have that, then you want to see a trine or sextile between the two Ascendant Rulers. You can gave a square, but you have to have Reception. In the case of a square with Reception, you can think of it as one partner motivates or stimulates the other partner, challenges them (in a good way).
Those are the foundations for good solid long lasting relationships (and I mean 25 to 30 years or more not 25 to 30 months).
asteroid
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By traditional Planets we mean Mars for scorpio , Saturn for aquarius and jupiter for Pisces?
Using traditional astrology's rulership rules, yes.
asteroid
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Which of two do you think plays most significant part in synastry ?Natal or progressed planets? Cause factors change a lot
@ BobZamco
I had a query for you, is the aspect u mentioned here enough to say that the partnership would last a long tym or there are further conditions that need to be checked?
I am interested because me n my ex bf has same ascendent ruler i.e. mercury...gemini n virgo ascendants...http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33517 ...our synastry chart
N i m trying 2 get back with him so it ll be nice to know if our charts hold the potential for a longlastin union
thanks in advance
I had a query for you, is the aspect u mentioned here enough to say that the partnership would last a long tym or there are further conditions that need to be checked?
I am interested because me n my ex bf has same ascendent ruler i.e. mercury...gemini n virgo ascendants...http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33517 ...our synastry chart
N i m trying 2 get back with him so it ll be nice to know if our charts hold the potential for a longlastin union
thanks in advance
dhundhun
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Few examples:
1. If a person has Mars in close conjunction with Asc, (s)he is likely to act aggressively in relationship. In Vedic Astrology this is toughest Manglik.
2. How two persons enjoy sex is usually Mars/Ven or Mars/Mars.
3. Flirting could be Uranus/Venus
4. There are many relationships looked differently as an example between son and father http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31487
5. Between friends:
~ Venus/Venus - Companionship
~ Sun/Sun, Sun/Moon - Heart & Soul
~ Mercury/Uranus - electrifying communication
6. Teacher and student
~ Jupiter/Sun - knowledge
~ Saturn/Sun - training
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asteroid
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Very illuminating!! However in many successful long term relationships could appear aspects like these between friends or student-teachers , i thing that's the secret for happy strongly bonded relationships plus the intimacy.
astrologer50
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Ascendant rulers having 'outers' like mine of Aquarius/Uranus are valid. I'm a modern astrologer, and although Traditional astrologers don't consider them to rule anything, in Modern THEY DO
relationship sticky
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28945
May I suggest you read the 'welcome to the world of astrology’ and other ---sticky' at the top of this forum? It has some great explanations, links etc. At the top of every forum there are lots of ‘stickys’ which explain matters in that forum, along with guidelines & tips
There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature,[but not foolproof obviously, so try here first] bit like google using keywords –initially select advanced and try just selecting 'titles' rather than posts or you'll get too many threads. If this doesn’t get results then try google
What Astrology Can and Can Not Do
http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=234549&postcount=7
Perhaps you should read this thread entitled: astrology predicts meanings, not events
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17546&page=2
Also composite chart and relationship/davison chart
Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......
But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.
Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....
http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PR16&dq=robert+hand+composites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false
The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended
“The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other. The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm
“Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html
“For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html
click on link to read full article
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html
astrologer50
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“Composite charts that has ascendant and midheaven agree in element will most closely describe the type of the relationship your partnership has formed. For instance a relationship that has Taurus on the Ascendant and Capricorn on the Midheaven will closely describe a “traditional” relationship. Those charts that do not agree will keep the element of the ascendant as the primary relationship style while incorporating the element of the Midheaven into the relationship. An analysis of the individual’s chart against the composite chart will show how his or her chart meshes with the composite chart and the style of the relationship”
http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/
Re: relationships
theortically EJ has the right order but I would question the interpretations of composites and davision's cos some members here who specialises reads composites as if they were davison charts.
1) In composites I disregard planetary sign placements and instead focus on houses where the planets fall and on aspects. The composite Sun is the most important.
2) Aspects that occur in both natals and in the composite/davison will be psychological issues that need to be worked on in the relationship.
3) Aspects that occur in the composite but not in the natals are issues rising within the relationship that have not been dealt with before by either party.
4) In Davison the main difference is to look at sign placement, whilst ignore sign placement in the composite. Also look for sign strength and weakness, mutual reception, sole dispositors.
5) In both ‘composites’ and ‘Davisons’, look for midpoints that are conjoined by planets in either natal. In composites, these relationships seem to be referring to psychological issues, while in ‘Davidsons’, the midpoint relationships tend to refer to forces acting on the couple from outside the relationship.
6) Try putting your natal planets around the outside of either chart, to see who relates best to this relationship and who is gaining the most. This can be rather revealing
7) Also remember you can use transits over both these charts and again Angles are very sensitive points
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180956&postcount=11
Davison chart v Composite chart
“Important point! Both of these charts are for the two of you as a couple. They show things that will tend to happen in the relationship as well as how you act towards the outside world when you are together. They have no effect when you are apart”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/relationshipdavidson26.0.htm
Anything is possible, don't let astrology limit or define who or what you do!
http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/
Re: relationships
theortically EJ has the right order but I would question the interpretations of composites and davision's cos some members here who specialises reads composites as if they were davison charts.
1) In composites I disregard planetary sign placements and instead focus on houses where the planets fall and on aspects. The composite Sun is the most important.
2) Aspects that occur in both natals and in the composite/davison will be psychological issues that need to be worked on in the relationship.
3) Aspects that occur in the composite but not in the natals are issues rising within the relationship that have not been dealt with before by either party.
4) In Davison the main difference is to look at sign placement, whilst ignore sign placement in the composite. Also look for sign strength and weakness, mutual reception, sole dispositors.
5) In both ‘composites’ and ‘Davisons’, look for midpoints that are conjoined by planets in either natal. In composites, these relationships seem to be referring to psychological issues, while in ‘Davidsons’, the midpoint relationships tend to refer to forces acting on the couple from outside the relationship.
6) Try putting your natal planets around the outside of either chart, to see who relates best to this relationship and who is gaining the most. This can be rather revealing
7) Also remember you can use transits over both these charts and again Angles are very sensitive points
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180956&postcount=11
Davison chart v Composite chart
“Important point! Both of these charts are for the two of you as a couple. They show things that will tend to happen in the relationship as well as how you act towards the outside world when you are together. They have no effect when you are apart”
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/relationshipdavidson26.0.htm
Anything is possible, don't let astrology limit or define who or what you do!