Donald Trump will be impeached.

Cold Fusion

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Multi-composite of the moment, Donald Trump and The G.O.P. has moon with Unukalhai.

Success followed by fall, suicide, insanity, accidents, success in war, politics, writing, problems in love, forgery, shipwreck, loss, earthquake (Lilly)

Clever, evil environment, hatred of authority, involved in intrigues and plots, banished, imprisoned or hanged for crime probably by poisoning. (Robson)
 

JUPITERASC

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Of course she must go ahead with it... to admit defeat now will leave the Democrats with a lot of egg on their faces... yet, that is an inevitability she's just going to have to deal with sooner or later and the longer this gets dragged out the more egg, the more damage to the Democratic Party.

It's like watching Kowalski at the end of the movie "Vanishing Point", He knew what awaited him. yet he tromped on that accelerator anyways.
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david starling

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If this impeached President has nothing to hide except his tax returns and extramarital affairs, then why withhold evidence and prevent witnesses from testifying? What's he hiding???
 

piercethevale

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Millions of voters in the red States voted for Hillary. But, when it came to electing the Commander in Chief, none of those votes counted. They were entirely disenfranchised, just like millions of Republican voters in the States that went blue.

Let it go David. I had a number of teachers in h.s. and college that explained the Electoral College and gave high praise to the Founding Fathers for having the intelligence, and foresight, to establish it.
Each State gets a number of Electors to the College equal to the number of members it has in Congress, both the House and the Senate combined. As the number of Representatives a State has in the House is based on the size of its population, so then, what is the difference?

Some States have laws stating that all electoral votes go for the candidate that has the highest count of votes, other States allow he electors to vote as the Congressional District they represent has voted to the majority.
If you don't like that you live in a State that requires all the Electors to vote for only one candidate, then make an effort to change the law governing how Electoral votes are to be cast in your State.

In a republic, an official set of fundamental laws, like the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights, prohibits the government from limiting or taking away certain “inalienable” rights of the people, even if that government was freely chosen by a majority of the people. In a pure democracy, the voting majority has almost limitless power over the minority. The Constitution then becomes "nothing more than a g*****ed piece of paper", just as "Dubya" is reported to have said.

If a president were to be elected by a majority vote of all votes cast by the citizens, then a candidate wouldn't have to give any consideration to regional and, or, State differences.
Let's say, for example, if the Nation were to a majority of its citizenry, Mormons, then that candidate, once elected could have every activity prohibited by Mormon creed made illegal. If it were to the majority Jewish, same thing, Muslim, same thing, Cargo Cult, Satanic, what have you. Those "Blue Laws" that once existed in Massachusetts could be implemented nationwide, for example.

What you are advocating is a dissolution of States rights and that this Union of the Republic instead became a singular democracy.
It's not going to happen. I will wager any amount you wish to lose that if such a law were federally enacted there will be a number of States that will secede from the Union.

This is a Republic, a union of individual States governed by a Constitution not a democracy of "mob rule"
 

Moondancing

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Our IMPEACHED President. :lol:

Who will be acquitted! That means something. Interesting, when Trump was charged with collusion with Russia many Republicans believed it was possible and awaited the proof that would ruin him. Prayed along with the Democrats for evidence of high crimes. Never happened and now every Republican stands with the President. It will be left to the people to remove the President. If my prediction comes true and Hillary enters the race and wins, we can start a Hillary will be impeached thread. :cool:
 

Dirius

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David they are impeaching him with no evidence, and for no practical reason, except their own political interests.

Its theater.
 

david starling

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David they are impeaching him with no evidence, and for no practical reason, except their own political interests.

Its theater.

Amazingly, he can withhold evidence and forbid witnesses to testify, along with the Senate Majority leader. He's also not required to testify under oath, himself. The office of President has gotten way too powerful. All he needs is a rubber stamp Congress, Senate, and Supreme Court, and we've got ourselves a dictator. The practicality is about reaffirming the Checks and Balances of the 3 branches of Government.
 
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Moondancing

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Amazingly, he can withhold evidence and forbid witnesses to testify, along with the Senate Majority leader. He's also not required to testify under oath, himself. The office of President has gotten way too powerful. All he needs is a rubber stamp Congress, Senate, and Supreme Court, and we've got ourselves a dictator. The practicality is about reaffirming the Checks and Balances of the 3 branches of Government.

Had Pelosi not rushed this impeachment, she could have gone to the Supreme Court and gotten the power to subpoena the President and if he didn't comply he legally could be charged with obstruction. The onus is on her.

Obama also refused to comply with Republican's request for records. They didn't push the issue because they didn't believe wrongdoing by Obama rose to the level of high crimes. Voters were furious and now we are watching Dems pull this ****.
 
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JUPITERASC

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Had Pelosi not rushed this impeachment, she could have gone to the Supreme Court and gotten the power to subpoena the President and if he didn't comply he legally could be charged with obstruction. The onus is on her.

Obama also refused to comply with Republican's request for records. They didn't push the issue because they didn't believe wrongdoing by Obama didn't rise to the level of high crimes. Voters were furious and now we are watching Dems pull this ****.
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david starling

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Had Pelosi not rushed this impeachment, she could have gone to the Supreme Court and gotten the power to subpoena the President and if he didn't comply he legally could be charged with obstruction. The onus is on her.

Obama also refused to comply with Republican's request for records. They didn't push the issue because they didn't believe wrongdoing by Obama rose to the level of high crimes. Voters were furious and now we are watching Dems pull this ****.

You really think THIS Supreme Court wouldn't have sided with HIM? It would have been a waste of time and effort.
 
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