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Unread 11-22-2008, 03:52 PM
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Comparison of various predictive methods

I am really tempted to create a comparison chart. You know, the kind of chart merchants create to compare products by features

No, seriously, which method works best for what purpose? Are there any general rules, or astrologer uses one he/she really likes and then (maybe) confirms it with other techniques?

What is each method - transits, progressions, SR, SA, etc. - best for? And which way is the best to see the actual events? Not psychological shifts and such, but what really is happening?

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Re: Comparison of various predictive methods

Use them all. Prediction charts work the same way Astrology works - by testimony support. If for example a Solar Return promises us riches one year (significant riches), if we do not see this in either profections, transits nor directions, you can be fairly certain the riches will not come to pass (or the influence will be minimal). Each chart should support the predictions cast by the other chart. I normally start with Directions, then check to see if it is supported by the Solar Return then Profections and then finally check the Transits for a more accurate timing of the event. If there are no particular directions for a certian year, I start with the Solar Return. All of these predictive methods are for practical (material) purposes. You gain a better understanding of these from traditional Astrology than Modern (which typically focused on psychological aspects of Astrology instead of material). Its also imperative when using predictions to check out the Nativity and what is promised by it. For if you have transits, directions AND solar returns that promise money and financial success but a Nativity that doesnt, you can expect all these predictive promises to be minimal, for the Nativity trumps any predictive chart. Heres some more information on predictive astrology;

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Re: Comparison of various predictive methods

Everything must be compared with the natal. For the natal promises things will happen in the entire lifetime, whereas the predictive charts give the specific time in which these events are promised will occur. You do not use predictive charts against each other (ie using transits on Solar Returns & etc.). Each predictive chart can also be broken down into a specific time (even down to the hour and minute of its occurance). This is found easiest through Transits, but can be found with Directions as well as Solar Returns as well with a little more work. I hope this has cleared some confusion!
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Re: Comparison of various predictive methods

Hi there,

Astroteacher has already given a substantial answer, however, I would like to add some of my own thoughts, too. While practising predictive Astrology, one must also consider the time-span for which a forecast is being worked out for. Say, if you want to know how you might fare at an upcoming conference with your colleagues, then 'transits' are the ones to look at, and not progressions or Solar Returns..On the other hand, if you are aiming at forecasting the next year in general and getting an 'overview' of it, then your Solar Return is the first best bet, which gives a sort of average/aggregate of your next solar year. For an even longer span of time, progressions are good to consider.

Another thing, 'in my opinion', is that I do not like to tag traditional Astrology better than the modern methods, as Astrology, like all other disciplines, also grows, evolves, and progresses! Again, if you are considering predictions over a longer period of time, then it is advisable to consider the likes of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto (slow-moving planets), which are often non-existent in traditional Astrology (one of the reasons being that these planets were discovered by us much later, though they obviously always existed up above). Again, when I do Horary Astrology, another 'predictive' method to get an immediate answer, I stick to traditional Astrology rules basically, which is the way Horary works; though even there most Astrologers consider the outer planets (Ura, Nep & Plu), say, if they are placed at important angles, or exactly aspecting the querent or quesited in certain cases. Therefore, my suggestion is to keep your mind *open* to all kinds of Astrology practices, and take them up, one by one, for study. That's really the best way to progress with Astrology into the future.


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Use them all. Prediction charts work the same way Astrology works - by testimony support. If for example a Solar Return promises us riches one year (significant riches), if we do not see this in either profections, transits nor directions, you can be fairly certain the riches will not come to pass (or the influence will be minimal). Each chart should support the predictions cast by the other chart. I normally start with Directions, then check to see if it is supported by the Solar Return then Profections and then finally check the Transits for a more accurate timing of the event. If there are no particular directions for a certian year, I start with the Solar Return. All of these predictive methods are for practical (material) purposes. You gain a better understanding of these from traditional Astrology than Modern (which typically focused on psychological aspects of Astrology instead of material). Its also imperative when using predictions to check out the Nativity and what is promised by it. For if you have transits, directions AND solar returns that promise money and financial success but a Nativity that doesnt, you can expect all these predictive promises to be minimal, for the Nativity trumps any predictive chart.
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What is each method - transits, progressions, SR, SA, etc. - best for? And which way is the best to see the actual events?
I use solar and SOL ARCS progressions (1 DEGREE per year). Use sun moon rising MC mostly and SOL SIGN (60TH HARMONIC SUN) - these give significant life periods and cycles/events. Transits are also quite useful, especially if in consort (occur at same time)

4 main points: distance 1 year per degree between sun, moon, rising, sol sun degree, and mc and ic, descendent also. If we include sol moon (60th harmonic moon), and also sol rising and mc, we have 10 in all to compare.

Look for all advances, that is moving ahead. Thus a 5 degree gemini moon in 10th house arc towards the 1 virgo rising, (84 degrees is age 84) as a fulfillment of a lifetime quest or heartfelt interest. In my case, this is either expressed in gemini, moon, or virgo or 1st house fashion, usually some combination, here as a heartfelt need or interest in discerning knowledge and the study of life, a writer looking to achieve or complete work.
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I am really tempted to create a comparison chart. You know, the kind of chart merchants create to compare products by features

No, seriously, which method works best for what purpose? Are there any general rules, or astrologer uses one he/she really likes and then (maybe) confirms it with other techniques?

What is each method - transits, progressions, SR, SA, etc. - best for? And which way is the best to see the actual events? Not psychological shifts and such, but what really is happening?
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