ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

joannski3

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Goodness!

I have been tracking my baseball charts. What i don't understand is how sometimes when the chart is the same for two locations, the opposite team wins (e.g. one home one away). for instance today, i cast the horary chart for arizona/diamondbacks and another one for giants/braves. both charts had the same ascendent, so of course the planets were all the same... maybe they were off by a degree or so on the house cusps... anyhow, trying to analyze this tonight so i can find out how one of the teams won the other didn't...
i placed a bet on both, figuring they would both turn out either way, but good thing i had also bet the braves with oakland, and oakland by itself!!! oakland was major underdog that won. this is why i know astrology, especially horary, works. i have no idea about baseball, i just want to enjoy watching the games on tv when my husband has them on, and living in las vegas i can bet a few dollars and sweat it out (my mars is in saggitarius in 2nd house :) )
so, i am going to post right here the chart for the first game, and then post up the second game. this game on this chart started first, at 6:40 -7.0 GMT, or MST... Arizona DOES NOT practice daylight savings, so i remembered to be very careful about the time... i wonder if a different picture would have been painted had i used a daylight savings chart. So Arizona won, the HOME TEAM, which is in bold, and on the ascendent in my charts.

i put home team HOUSE 1 and ASC
away team HOUSE 7, DSC

analyze placement, using lilly's rules of dignities debilities, ptomlemie's rules, ivy jacobson's format of asking the question, synthesizing it all together. i am just beginning, but when i sit down and take the time to analyze the game properly, i get them right. this one i was wrong. can anyone tell me why Arizona won this one (home) and in my next post why oakland (away) team won? i don't see what is different about both charts...

should i maybe look up rulerships for team colors and mascots? i just can't understand how you could accurately predict that both these games had different outcomes no matter what system you use, you would get either the home or away, so someone experienced, please help:eek:

OK, recap below is ARIZONA HOME TEAM, ASC, WIN (my pocket book lost)
 

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joannski3

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

HERE on this post I have the away team for a different game on the same day... this time, the away team won, OAKLAND. this game was oakland athletics playing AT ANAHEIM ANGELS, well, they are los angeles now, techinically, but they still play in their stadium in anaheim. both my charts are correct, i double, triple checked everything.

The only thing I can think of is that i would have a different answer if i
a)wrote the chart for the time i was thinking of the question
or
b)used symbolism, such as planetary rulers of mascots (athletic, sportsman versus an angel or halo) and see how they weigh against the 5th house and 4th house rulers, the part of fortune, etc...

Thanks, i'm completely stumped and have no idea why this would happen.

Joanna PS... if you want to draw up the chart and see for yourself, i will write down times and places of events... the chart is really small, i couldn't size it any bigger, i'm not good at computers, i only figured out how to resize photos and images in the last 6 months...

marlins AT DIAMONDBACKS (diamond back is a term for rattlesnake, for those of you abroad...) July 24, 2007, 6:40 MST (NO DAYLIGHT IN ARIZONA), Phoenix, Arizona

athletics AT ANGELS
July 24, 2007, 7:05 PM, PST
Anaheim, CA
 

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fensi88

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

Joanna, go to my site and read, there are a lot of examples, you will find a lot of answers on your question:

http://www.geocities.com/astrosport88/engleski.html

I see long time ago, that that method home team=ASC do not work well, so as I said in previous post I work with "colour" method which give me best results. Someone work with "favorite team on ASC", so maybe that is the answer to your question in this post.
 

sskohli

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

Hi Joan,
I wanted to warn you this in the prev post, where you said, you could predict the results of games very accurately.
You would be able to do so when your stakes are low, as you increase your stakes, it's gonna take you down.
I have tried this, it went ok for 14 games straight and then it plumeted. I tried doing it with the Copa America and failed again.
If it had worked accurately with Horaray, horarists would be speculating and winning why would they be predicting.
Horary, in my branch of astrology works only when a question Genuinely troubles the querier.
In your case it doesn't. I guess you wouldn't understand this untill you try and experience.
Sandeep
 

Andonis

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

Hi fensi,
I saw your post, interesting. Can you please have a look at my post on soccer I have placed in Horary Astrology section and give us your opinion on the outcome according to your method. cheers.
 

joannski3

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

Actually, I checked out your sports site (Goca?)

I will try the color method.

As to horary not working so well... I understand what you are saying fensi, i was thinking myself the same thing. Misuse would probably not be so great karmically. However, I look at astrology as a weather forecast, which is about 80% right, not really like an oracle in the sky answering questions.

I do think there are trends with teams winning events, and even though the opposite teams won, the charts that take me longer to decipher because its hard to assign which side has the best placed significator, those are the games that generally have the closer scoring games, or one team wins for awhile and then the other has a come back.

i'm sure if you did it reasonably, even if you won 2 out of 3 every time, and played 'reasonably'... i'm talking 5-20 dollar increments here, not my paycheck! i'm sure just for fun, without bad intentions, you probably won't be 'punished' by the heavens.

didn't sydny omarr write about betting on the races in his book? for example, mars is prominent, he would bet man o war to win the horse race?
 

sskohli

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

I understand what you are saying fensi, i was thinking myself the same thing.
:60: :60 :D
hey i said that not fensi :p :p :p :p
 

joannski3

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

oh yes, it was you!

look, sure i agree, you can't make a living trying to "predict" sports, but why wouldn't sport games have trends like anything else?

if you wanted to REALLY have NO LIFE you could spend endless hours researching the main players captains managers of all teams, erecting their birthcharts and studying all week for which major starters are having the best transits...actually, sandeep, that was a great idea that just popped up in my head!!!

You could use your results with horary together... or get chart of when team was started, and use secondary tertiary progressions, lunations, all that ****.... basically its the same thing the handicappers do here in las vegas... the casinos have consultants called "professional handicappers". what they do is study all games (and professional gamblers who bet sports and ponies do this too, i see them often at work several days in a row with the same clothes on, bragging about being up with no sleep (and i assume no shower or bath or brushed teeth YUCK!!) for X amount of hours... but they are risking their money... but the casinos hire these handi cappers who basically figure out odds, and do it 24/7 because odds change all week. for some games you can't bet until the day of the event. they check injuries, suspensions, EVERYTHING. and so basically you could probably do the same thing and be quite good if you had decent knowledge of sports, or type of sport you are studying, and astrology, and had really great software to help make it easier to pull up and see midpoints transits.

i picked baseball because there are more games for me to practice with here, and i can pick 5 games on the same ticket and it can win anywhere from $50-$500, so i'm not too worried, it would be just fun to win one time a big hit!

J
 

unukalhai

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Have you considered casting charts for the date of the team's formation, or the first game they played as a team? Rather than many charts of the managers, captains, players etc etc... It would seem the team's "natal" chart would be the most effective one if you were to consider transits along with the event chart of the game.

I will say I've never considered sports astrology, so I'm not exactly experienced in this area, but it just seems like a logical idea...
 

fensi88

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Re: ALMOST exact charts, two different outcomes...see if you can figure out what happened

Have you considered casting charts for the date of the team's formation, or the first game they played as a team?

Problem with this method is that in 99% we do not have time of foundation, so we can not cast right chart.
 

unukalhai

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That would certainly complicate matters!

I wonder... aren't most professional teams in the US legitimate corporations? could their date of incorporation, which should be public record, be valid as a chart?

This is a common practice in financial astrology, and seeing that pro sports in the US is an entertainment business, maybe some of the financial astro techniques could be applied?

Just another crazy thought :)
 
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