What's the difference between Mars, Jupiter and Juno in a woman's birth chart?

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What's the difference between Mars, Jupiter and Juno in a woman's birth chart? Suppose that Mars is her boyfriend, Jupiter is her husband, but what's Juno in this case? What exactly does Juno indicates in a woman's birth chart? I have Juno in Capricorn, what does that mean?
 

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JUPITERASC

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What's the difference between Mars, Jupiter and Juno in a woman's birth chart?

Suppose that Mars is her boyfriend, Jupiter is her husband
but what's Juno in this case?

What exactly does Juno indicates in a woman's birth chart?

I have Juno in Capricorn, what does that mean?
The major difference is that Mars and Jupiter are both planets :smile:
Juno is an asteroid

Juno was discovered 1 September 1804
only two hundred years ago
in contrast

Mars and Jupiter have been delineated for two thousand years at least
so
the main difference is that meanings of Juno are comparatively conjectural
 

JUPITERASC

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He's refusing to answer you because he practices "traditional astrology,"

which doesn't look at Juno, apparently.
speak for yourself :smile:
the fact is
there are no definitive answers on asteroid Juno
so

any astrologer may simply state their own opinion
which may or may not agree/disagree with other astrological opinions

because
Juno is an asteroid only recently discovered
that is a fact
and

to compare an object discovered just two hundred years ago
with two celestial bodies delineated for over two thousand years
is certainly more approrpriate for our RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT board
at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=91


Okay. I see. So who knows?

the OP mentions Mars and Jupiter, both are traditional visible planets
and this thread is posted on our General astrology board
on which discussion of a combination of traditional and modern ideas is encouraged
HOWEVER
in this case with Juno
we are at the research stage
and no one knows for certain
 

Witchyone

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speak for yourself :smile:
the fact is
there are no definitive answers on asteroid Juno
so

any astrologer may simply state their own opinion
which may or may not agree/disagree with other astrological opinions

because
Juno is an asteroid only recently discovered
that is a fact
and

to compare an object discovered just two hundred years ago
with two celestial bodies delineated for over two thousand years
is certainly more approrpriate for our RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT board
at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=91




the OP mentions Mars and Jupiter, both are traditional visible planets
and this thread is posted on our General astrology board
on which discussion of a combination of traditional and modern ideas is encouraged
HOWEVER
in this case with Juno
we are at the research stage
and no one knows for certain

Are you sure it's not an argument for traditional astrology? Why comment at all if you had no answer? Why mention "just two hundred years"?

I agree that what the asteroids mean is a lot less settled than the planets, but I think that's more to do with the fact that they are discussed much less often. Pluto wasn't discovered until 1920, and its meaning is very well discussed and documented in modern astrology. Some still argue about whether or not it is a higher octave of Mars, and such, but its basic characteristics and the domains it rules are well established.
 
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Witchyone

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Okay. I see. So who knows?

I can't answer succinctly because I don't see any of the three as being directly representative of a relationship or person. I see Mars as the sexual energy you exude and/or find attractive (among many other drives), Jupiter as the qualities you might want in a husband and/or father for your children (and a WHOLE lot more...I think Jupiter is more important than normally recognized), and Juno as representative of your needs and approach to your love life, including marriage.
 

JUPITERASC

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Are you sure it's not an argument for traditional astrology?
Why comment at all if you had no answer?
Why mention "just two hundred years"?
thread is posted in General Astrology
so obviously any astrologic methods are applicable
every astrologer has their own opinion and that's fine
all opinions are allowed

in this case to compare
two planets delineated for two thousand years plus
with a newly discovered asteroid
just noticed two hundred years ago
brings up obvious disparities
that's my answer
I agree that what the asteroids mean is a lot less settled than the planets,
but I think that's more to do with the fact that they are discussed much less often.
Pluto wasn't discovered until 1920, and its meaning is very well discussed
and documented in modern astrology.
Some still argue about whether or not it is a higher octave of Mars, and such, but
its basic characteristics and the domains it rules are well established.
Quite the contrary
whether pluto is even an "astrological planet"
is a matter on which there is little consensus and much debate
some previous discussion on dwarf planetoid pluto
is as follows
Just fyi, dr. farr (11,000+ posts) comments regarding the outers:

Quote:
... I consider the planet to represent a mixture of influences/significations,
derived from the 7 planets (here my thinking is along the lines of Charles Carter)
-Uranus (for me) = Mercury+Mars, with some admixture of the Sun
-Neptune = Venus+Jupiter+Moon
-Pluto = Mars+Saturn, with more than a little admixture of the Sun

source:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75975

I pay little attention to the "higher octave" theory re to the outer planets:
for me, when thinking about one of the outers "overall",

I consider the planet to represent a mixture of influences/significations, derived from the 7 planets (here my thinking is along the lines of Charles Carter)
-Uranus (for me) = Mercury+Mars, with some admixture of the Sun
-Neptune = Venus+Jupiter+Moon
-Pluto = Mars+Saturn, with more than a little admixture of the Sun
another quote from dr. farr on another thread
MODERN ASTROLOGY DIGNITIES AND DEBILITIES :smile:
at source:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67385

Yes Paul correctly understood my perspective:
no, I do NOT consider Neptune, Uranus or Pluto to be dispositors ("rulers") of any sign
-but yes I do consider them to be affinitive to certain signs and dissonant with other signs:
for me, if X planet is in, say, Aquarius, then I consider SATURN to be dispositor of that planet,
PLUS I consider Uranus to have a relationship to that planet as well
(because of the affinity of Uranus with Aquarius),
but NOT at the same level (the level of dispositorship)

that Saturn has.

 

Witchyone

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thread is posted in General Astrology
so obviously any astrologic methods are applicable
every astrologer has their own opinion and that's fine
all opinions are allowed

in this case to compare
two planets delineated for two thousand years plus
with a newly discovered asteroid
just noticed two hundred years ago
brings up obvious disparities
that's my answer

Quite the contrary
whether pluto is even an "astrological planet"
is a matter on which there is little consensus and much debate
some previous discussion on dwarf planetoid pluto
is as follows



another quote from dr. farr on another thread
MODERN ASTROLOGY DIGNITIES AND DEBILITIES :smile:
at source:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67385

That's a total misrepresentation of astrology as a field. The vast majority of practicing astrologers consider Pluto a planet and agree on its basic characteristics. The fact that the astrologer you most admire doesn't agree does not change what the majority thinks. Astronomers have gone back and forth about whether it fits the scientific definition of a planet, but most astronomers think all astrology is bunk.

I've not even made up my mind about which system I think is most accurate. I just believe in fairly representing things.

I spoke up because I felt like you were hijacking the OP's thread by extending the traditional/modern argument to here and thereby potentially confusing the OP for no reason. But by doing so, I'm hijacking it too, so I'll stop being a buttinski.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
That's a total misrepresentation of astrology as a field. The vast majority of practicing astrologers consider Pluto a planet and agree on its basic characteristics. The fact that the astrologer you most admire doesn't agree does not change what the majority thinks. Astronomers have gone back and forth about whether it fits the scientific definition of a planet, but most astronomers think all astrology is bunk.

I've not even made up my mind about which system I think is most accurate. I just believe in fairly representing things.

I spoke up because I felt like you were hijacking the OP's thread by extending the traditional/modern argument to here and thereby potentially confusing the OP for no reason. But by doing so, I'm hijacking it too, so I'll stop being a buttinski.
The general astrology board is for any and all astrological methods
so posting a comment regarding a simple matter of fact

i.e.

that Mars and Jupiter are planets
with two thousand years of tried and tested delineation
whereas
Juno is an asteroid noticed a mere two hundred years ago
is fair comment

All astrologers are entitled to an opinion
you disagree with my comment
however
my comment is fair comment
because it is on our General board
and in fact
if any astrologers now post with a Vedic delineation :smile:
that's fair comment as well

IF the OP is seeking a completely Modern astrological opinion
then this thread belongs on our Modern board
otherwise
be aware that the status of dwarf planet pluto
is by no means universally agreed amongst astrologers
and on a general discussion board such as this board
that is fair comment
 
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