How to interpret a planet that conjuncts an angle....
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JUPITERASC
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Angular planets are powerful
so the people or matters that they signify are strong
and attract a lot of attention.
If representing a person, such a planet would indicate
someone with the power to 'get things done'
more detailed info at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=128686
JUPITERASC
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Correct
beginners find mess and confusion in the area of the so-called "houses"
because
there are at least twenty or thirty different house systems
or means of dividing the so-called "birthchart"
into twelve segments of life activity.
In astrology, houses, mansions, or domains
represent general areas of life activity
and are the grounding areas or arenas of expression for planets.
Originally, the words "houses" and "signs" were interchangeable
and so
a planet in the SIGN of Aries was also a planet in the HOUSE of Aries
so that in effect. there were no real houses as we know them today
AND
DUE TO THE MULTIPLICITY OF HOUSE SYSTEMS TODAY
the house location of a planet may change
DEPENDENT ON THE HOUSE SYSTEM CHOSEN
for example
For Whole Sign House system the ASCENDANT SIGN BECOMES THE WHOLE FIRST HOUSE
and the other houses follow.
so then For Whole Sign
the ASCENDANT POINT ITSELF can then fall anywhere in the first house
and
MIDHEAVEN POINT anywhere in the upper half of the chart.
Placidus is simply the default
ASTROSEEK offers WHOLE SIGN HOUSES calculation
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
The Whole Sign House system was used by the ancient Greeks
and the Hindus still use it today via VEDIC astrology for example
as well as JYOTISH et al
It is the oldest and simplest house system in existence
and
immediately eliminates the awful mess astrologers have made on the issue
over the last 1300 years or so
Artificial divisions now known as houses
were attempts by early Greeks and Hindus to measure strength "points" in the horoscope
which during 7th and 8th centuriesAD were construed or confused
as means of dividing the birth chart.
The ascendant and midheaven degrees and their opposites, for example,
were definite power points or areas of intense focus
but not necessarily the beginnings of a house or quadrant.
previous discussion threads on this issue with more information are at :
WHOLE SIGNS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=42163
WHOLE SIGN OR PLACIDUS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=39669
"STRENGTH"/"powerlessness" relative to natal planets
is dependent on a natal planets ability to act
planets that are STRONGLY PLACED have ability to act
but
UNLESS a strongly placed planet
has SUFFICIENT RESOURCES
then
that planet cannot do much - even if strongly placed
HOW PLANETS ARE ASSESSED AS being STRONGLY PLACED OR NOT
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...23&postcount=6
House placement of a planet affects it's ability to act
a planet with no ability to act is aka powerless
sometimes another planet helps out by providing resources
but
only if that other planet has sufficient resources of its own
ESSENTIAL DIGNITY determines whether a planet has sufficient resources to act
below is a TABLE ILLUSTRATING ESSENTIAL DIGNITY
also keep in mind that
ANGULAR PLANETS are strongly PLACED for the ability to act
but
UNLESS any strongly placed planet
has SUFFICIENT RESOURCES with which to act
then
that planet cannot do much - even if strongly placed
when your natal chart shows strongly placed angular planets
creating your chart using WHOLE SIGN HOUSES
provides a clearer perspective
Placidus is simply the default
Jupiter is less than 3° from the horizon. A 3° aspect is considered exact. Jupiter is strongly angular, as is Moon.
Jupiter in 6th, is less than 5° from the 7th cusp; it is considered to be cuspal, and is treated as though it were in 7th...although it retains its position and meaning in 6th. It can carry trappings of both houses.
But in any case it is angular, primarily a question of power rather than character. Angularity brings the qualities of the angular planet into prominence in the personality and life.
If a planet is physically in 6th, it is in 6th beyond doubt, in fact; this takes precedence over "it is treated as if in 7th" because within 5° of 7th cusp, which is procedural rather than factual.
Moon rises (1-1/4°) in her own sign...powerful, predominant. This close to the Angle, I would treat her as First House, and ignore 12th.
The Moon-Jupiter opposition occurs almost exactly on the horizon. Do you think the chart is making a statement? I do.
Jupiter in 6th, is less than 5° from the 7th cusp; it is considered to be cuspal, and is treated as though it were in 7th...although it retains its position and meaning in 6th. It can carry trappings of both houses.
But in any case it is angular, primarily a question of power rather than character. Angularity brings the qualities of the angular planet into prominence in the personality and life.
If a planet is physically in 6th, it is in 6th beyond doubt, in fact; this takes precedence over "it is treated as if in 7th" because within 5° of 7th cusp, which is procedural rather than factual.
Moon rises (1-1/4°) in her own sign...powerful, predominant. This close to the Angle, I would treat her as First House, and ignore 12th.
The Moon-Jupiter opposition occurs almost exactly on the horizon. Do you think the chart is making a statement? I do.
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I feel the power of the Moon very much.
But Jupiter I don't feel that I'm super lucky..... especially in the field of relationships. Maybe because it's debilitated in Capricorn and aspected by its dispositor.
But my belly has a size and shape of Jupiter since it aspects my ascendant
But Jupiter I don't feel that I'm super lucky..... especially in the field of relationships. Maybe because it's debilitated in Capricorn and aspected by its dispositor.
But my belly has a size and shape of Jupiter since it aspects my ascendant
Maybe this opposition makes me too generous, overly nice in my relationships and people step on my head....
I should ask myself that.... Do these people deserve my generosity? Especially at the early stages? Maybe I should step back two steps... And see if people reciprocate or not. Maybe I should be a bit aloof.