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Does anyone find Libras attractive?

This is a general and genuine question.

I feel like I'm incapable of being wanted.

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This is a general and genuine question.

I feel like I'm incapable of being wanted.
Venus in Retrograde state? Maybe it causes wrong choices in partners.
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It makes me sad that you feel that way...
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Re: Does anyone find Libras attractive?

Yup, my brother's a Libra Sun and he's very popular in general and attractive to women. I'd say most Libra Suns I've come across have found ways to make themselves attractive to others.

Nevertheless, an individual Libra Sun might not be so well-liked, in which case I would look at the rest of the chart for clues.
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Yup, my brother's a Libra Sun and he's very popular in general and attractive to women. I'd say most Libra Suns I've come across have found ways to make themselves attractive to others.

Nevertheless, an individual Libra Sun might not be so well-liked, in which case I would look at the rest of the chart for clues.
And what clues do you see in my chart, Sib? (I feel like you're hinting at something here)
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Yeah Libra are quite nice
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And what clues do you see in my chart, Sib? (I feel like you're hinting at something here)
I wasn't really hinting at anything but yes your chart does have some major clues in that regard. Will you actually take them into consideration if I expound? If not, I literally do not have the time to do so.
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Venus in Retrograde state? Maybe it causes wrong choices in partners.
I have Venus Retro natally.
I think it's worse than Mercury retro btw
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Although I haven't seen the chart I've observed that librans ego can be somewhat weak and that they need constant reassurance that they are liked. They can be charming,polite,flash the winning smile and even go as far as bending over backwards to please. There usually dressed nicely, well mannered and groomed to the T.
But after being sweet,adorable,and charming all day that by the time they get home their sick of being sweet and adorable. They become angry and argumentative and depressed. If you were in there presence you would be wondering in amazement where the transformation came from? But in actuality the beautiful Libran is still there they have just tipped their scales so much to one side that they must compensate.

Craft94, be optimistic and probably this time is just transitory with the cycle of the moon. Your first words were "I feel"
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Although I haven't seen the chart I've observed that librans ego can be somewhat weak and that they need constant reassurance that they are liked. They can be charming,polite,flash the winning smile and even go as far as bending over backwards to please. There usually dressed nicely, well mannered and groomed to the T.
But after being sweet,adorable,and charming all day that by the time they get home their sick of being sweet and adorable. They become angry and argumentative and depressed. If you were in there presence you would be wondering in amazement where the transformation came from? But in actuality the beautiful Libran is still there they have just tipped their scales so much to one side that they must compensate.

Craft94, be optimistic and probably this time is just transitory with the cycle of the moon. Your first words were "I feel"
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The Libra sign does go from one extreme to the other. For example the charm they use in public use up all the energy and when they get home the partner gets the anger which the public might not believe could exist. Also Libra also take relationships very seriously and can be like 'a drill sergeant.' This is the balance of Libra.

To celebrate Libra and in the spirit of balance the question then should not that craft is not beautiful but the right man has not appeared and not Craft94's fault

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The Libra sign does go from one extreme to the other. For example the charm they use in public use up all the energy and when they get home the partner gets the anger which the public might not believe could exist. Also Libra also take relationships very seriously and can be like 'a drill sergeant.' This is the balance of Libra.

To celebrate Libra and in the spirit of balance the question then should not that craft is not beautiful but the right man has not appeared and not Craft94's fault
I've been wanting to give my own input on this thread, but couldn't seem to find the right words to use (particularly because I don't want to create misunderstanding). But the above is closest to what I would say about Libra; I've been surrounded by this sign all of my life, and I've definitely experienced this initial feeling of, "wow, this Libra Sun person is so perfect," only to find out that their true goal was to manipulate and control situations with their charm. There can be immense anger when you do not do things their way -- but this is usually shown in a calculated and hidden manner. It can very hard to get others to believe you if you say that a Libra Sun is harsh.

My Libra mother is more than harsh, she's abusive. And so was my first real boyfriend, another native of this sun sign. I have met quite a few others that I would classify as abusive as well. However, I don't know why that is, and I don't think it's supposed to be the norm.

This has nothing to do with their attractiveness though. If I were to answer the actual question of this thread, I would say that Libras seem to have an inherent attractiveness. This is why I got involved with that boyfriend in the first place! He wasn't at all what most people would consider handsome and sexy, but he was very smooth-talking, charming and funny. It took me a while to come around to him, but I finally did; maybe that was why he changed, because once he "got me" he felt super empowered and didn't think he could possibly lose me.

Anyway, I think you - craft94 - are probably beyond all of this... the game-playing, etc. And that is why you don't seem to get the "results" that other Libras might. My mother used to tell me that I "didn't know how to play the game." What she meant is that I had too much integrity and honesty and I couldn't ******* tolerate lying, slyness and manipulation. This, in a nutshell, is what some Libras seem to rely upon in order to get what they want. If you don't do this, then consider yourself an evolved Libra (ugh, I hate that whole evolved vs unevolved thing, but it's the best way to describe this). You want to attract the right person, and that is what is going to happen when you behave with integrity. From what I've seen of you on the forum, it seems like it is pretty important for you to be this way.
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I've been wanting to give my own input on this thread, but couldn't seem to find the right words to use (particularly because I don't want to create misunderstanding). But the above is closest to what I would say about Libra; I've been surrounded by this sign all of my life, and I've definitely experienced this initial feeling of, "wow, this Libra Sun person is so perfect," only to find out that their true goal was to manipulate and control situations with their charm. There can be immense anger when you do not do things their way -- but this is usually shown in a calculated and hidden manner. It can very hard to get others to believe you if you say that a Libra Sun is harsh.

My Libra mother is more than harsh, she's abusive. And so was my first real boyfriend, another native of this sun sign. I have met quite a few others that I would classify as abusive as well. However, I don't know why that is, and I don't think it's supposed to be the norm.

This has nothing to do with their attractiveness though. If I were to answer the actual question of this thread, I would say that Libras seem to have an inherent attractiveness. This is why I got involved with that boyfriend in the first place! He wasn't at all what most people would consider handsome and sexy, but he was very smooth-talking, charming and funny. It took me a while to come around to him, but I finally did; maybe that was why he changed, because once he "got me" he felt super empowered and didn't think he could possibly lose me.

Anyway, I think you - craft94 - are probably beyond all of this... the game-playing, etc. And that is why you don't seem to get the "results" that other Libras might. My mother used to tell me that I "didn't know how to play the game." What she meant is that I had too much integrity and honesty and I couldn't ******* tolerate lying, slyness and manipulation. This, in a nutshell, is what some Libras seem to rely upon in order to get what they want. If you don't do this, then consider yourself an evolved Libra (ugh, I hate that whole evolved vs unevolved thing, but it's the best way to describe this). You want to attract the right person, and that is what is going to happen when you behave with integrity. From what I've seen of you on the forum, it seems like it is pretty important for you to be this way.
I liked this post because I thank you for what you had to say about me personally. I have to admit though; I've yet to experiece a Libra, any Libra, as "dishonest."

Libra is ruled by the scales of justice so I actually think the principles of honesty and integrity are important to us as a whole (though I'm sure some unevolved ones just pretend); imo you can't seperate "fairness" from "honesty." I also think of Libra as a truth-seeking sign because we're always weighing things, to get to the heart of the manner. We're trying to consider every single fact, which is where our "indecisiveness" comes from.

I don't like every Libra I meet but I tend to dislike them for the opposite reason: they're harsh. You're right about that, not in a manipulative way, but outwardly so...very self-righteous, but in a Saturnian way, not like Sagittarius. I find a Libran's honesty is actually much worse than a fire sign's because they don't say it like they're angry, they don't say it like they have a poor opinion of you, they say it like they actually mean it except there is no "they." Sometimes they'll even word it like they're saying something kind, but usually they word it like it's pure objective fact, plain and simple. Being told you're stupid is a lot easier to brush off than being told why you're stupid in great detail by a person with the reputation of an angel.

I've honestlly yet to experience a Libra as dishonest, and I was always confused as to where that reputation came from (Venus?) but reading your post, I think I can understand why people might perceive us that way. I don't agree with it at all though because it's more about other people's preconceived expectations and assumptions than it is "lying." I know you say I'm probably an evolved Libra so this might not apply to everyone born under my sign, but speaking from my own experience, I never pretend to be nice. I simply am nice... most of the time. The truth is Libras really aren't "nice" or "sweet" or "kind" or any of the other adjectives used to describe how goody-goody we are. Libras are simply fair and I think that often gets mistaken for kindness but in all truth, justice isn''t kind. Justice can actually be quite cruel. Look at the Justice card - it's pictured with a sword. Libra is not Pisces.

For example, I've had this experience with Leos, in particular, where they think I'm on "their side," because I'm nice to them or because I've defended them once, but then they tend to think I'm this cold, cutting (probably manipulative) narcissist once they actually get to know me and I end up not bowing down to them. I never lied, I never said I was on "their side," that's their assumption and it's not something I ever wanted them to assume. I meant it when I was nice to them and I meant it when I defended them that time they were bullied but I also meant it when I told them off and defended the person they bullied. To me, being a friend isn't agreeing or supporting everything a person says but telling them off when they need it and accepting them anyway.

Oh, I'm not trying to discount your experience. Just expressing my own thoughts. I do believe there are unevolved and unfair Libras, definitely. I've met some unfair Libras myself but the unfair ones, in my own experience, actually believe they're fair... and that may be the worst part of it all.

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What's the difference between Sagittarius self righteousness and Saturnine self righteousness?
Sagittarius is like fire. Saturn is more like ice.
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Yes, there was one thing I should've worded differently; when I was talking about not being able to tolerate lying, slyness and manipulation, I actually meant within myself for the most part, as my mother would be disappointed with me if I didn't "talk myself up" or act like I was the best thing in the world (odd, I know). And, essentially, I think this implies that she talks HERself up and pretends to be something better than she really is (i.e., more spiritual and unselfish, etc). And you're 100% right about the unfair Libras believing they're just. It is basically impossible to argue/debate with someone like that and win, even if you're right. So it's incredibly frustrating.

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I don't like every Libra I meet but I tend to dislike them for the opposite reason: they're harsh, you're right about that, not in a manipulative way, but outwardly so...very self-righteous, but in a Saturian way, not like Sagittarius. I find a Libran's honesty is actually worse than a fire signs because with they don't say it like they're angry, they don't say it like they have a poor opinion of you, they say it like they actually mean it, sometimes they'll even word it like they're saying something kind, but usually they word it like it's pure objective fact, plain and simple.
Oh yeah, totally. This was what I saw in my mother more so than the ex-boyfriend. He typically didn't ever say anything outright mean or abusive about me (at least to my face, I know he did to others); so he -- along with a few others I knew -- really gave me this impression of being duplicitously charming. However, yes, I have absolutely known many Libras with the same behavior you describe. And this seems to be more common. I am close to a Libra Sun right now, and most of what he says is delivered in a very matter-of-fact way. It can be kind of annoying, but I prefer to deal with something like this rather than being subtlely controlled, manipulated or used.

As we all know though, this is why sun sign astrology is useless.

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Being told you're stupid is a lot easier to brush off than being told why you're stupid in great detail by a person with the reputation of an angel.
That right there is gold.

Don't forget that the sun is in its fall in libra. Ironically, it doesn't cope with social stress all that well.
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That right there is gold.

Don't forget that the sun is in its fall in libra. Ironically, it doesn't cope with social stress all that well.
Being told you're a stupid person merits this reply: "Takes one to know one!" Or, "I know you are, but what am I?!"
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Yas. They're that kind of graceful beauty, I've realised that recently. But I think that caps are much more attractive, even when they're not that handsome, they exude that aura of sexiness and steady confidence that attracts a lot of people. Overall, you should also check the rising sign, which tells more about how does someone come off to others (for my example, I don't have any idea of which rising sign are these two guys, unfortunately, though I could make some assumptions).
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I find libras to be nice, not very decisive but nice nonetheless. I prefer them as coworkers. I personally would not date them but that is because of what is going on in my chart. You can't just base it on the sun sign. You must look at the whole picture. There is someone for everyone.
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I find libras to be nice, not very decisive but nice nonetheless. I prefer them as coworkers. I personally would not date them but that is because of what is going on in my chart. You can't just base it on the sun sign. You must look at the whole picture. There is someone for everyone.
You don't have to make disclaimers. I'm not offended. What's your chart like?

Personally, I think decisiveness is an overrated trait.

I prefer openness to change.

Well, except with relationships, in that case, I like loyalty. I love with my heart, not my mind.

Edit: Although I must say, Geminis are even more indecisive than Libras in my experience. Libra isn't "indecisive" so much as they take a lot of time making a decision because they want to make sure it's the right one. Gemini changes their mind a thousand times a day and never makes a decision. I still like them though. Liking them is the problem...LOL

But yeah, I actually like that about Libras personally. I like that we put a lot of thought into things. Too many people don't think. They just assume.

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You don't have to make disclaimers. I'm not offended. What's your chart like?

Personally, I think decisiveness is an overrated trait.

I prefer openness to change.

Well, except with relationships, in that case, I like loyalty. I love with my heart, not my mind.

Edit: Although I must say, Geminis are even more indecisive than Libras in my experience. Libra isn't "indecisive" so much as they take a lot of time making a decision because they want to make sure it's the right one. Gemini changes their mind a thousand times a day and never makes a decision. I still like them though. Liking them is the problem...LOL

But yeah, I actually like that about Libras personally. I like that we put a lot of thought into things. Too many people don't think. They just assume.
You assumed I made a disclaimer. .Where is this disclaimer you speak of? Lol.

Yes, I agree both libra and geminis can be quite indecisive. Although I find both signs to be nice, indecisiveness is not a trait I find desirable. The inability to make decisions doesn't fair well in the business world. But I guess that is why gems and libs get a long great together the share the same duplicitous and indecisive nature.
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The inability to make decisions doesn't fair well in the business world.
Yes, our business-driven culture places a high value on people who are "strong and decisive" but I feel like making smart decisions is better than making fast decisions
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Yes, our business-driven culture places a high value on people who are "strong and decisive" but I feel like making smart decisions is better than making fast decisions
See, this is where I get completely lost when speaking of Libras, because all of those I've been close to have been somewhat "indecisive" -- yet when they would make a decision, it often would be the wrong one. Not just from my perspective, but typically objectively. Like, decisions that would have disastrous consequences.

Maybe this comes from not trusting their intuition? I rely heavily on intuition, and I think this is quite common for Virgos despite being labelled as wholly analytical/logical. If I don't trust or go with my intuition, then I experience the disastrous consequences that I've seen with Libras.

Do you think that a conflict between heart/feelings (Venus) and logic (Air) is part of the reason why Libra's intuition can get blocked?
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Yes, our business-driven culture places a high value on people who are "strong and decisive" but I feel like making smart decisions is better than making fast decisions
I agree smart decision are very important in this business-world. Which is the reason why I feel Libra's indecision to be considered a weak trait. Libra is the sign that is at their best when in a partnership so maybe decisiveness is something they don't need. They can just have their partners make all the decisions.
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