A Yian
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Hello, astrologers.
I have a question about Ben Ezra’s horary method
I know this would be better in “Horary Techniques”, but I want opinions from traditional views.
It’s about the first house. Here a fragment from the Book of Interrogations:
“The first place. Know that there is a great disagreement among astrologers about interrogations. Some say: if the querent poses a question about another person, always look at the ascendant because it is the root, and pronounce judgment according to what you have observed. Others said that the ascendant sign always corresponds to the querent and the seventh place to the object of the interrogation. But the truth is what I will tell you now: if the querent poses a question about himself, take the ascendant sign for him; if on behalf of one of his brothers, whether he will meet him and what will happen to him, take the third place and the position of Mars, and pronounce judgment from there. If he poses a question about the father, observe the fourth place and its lord, and proceed likewise if he poses a question about a son, a slave, a woman, a king, a lover, or an enemy. If the querent poses a question about another person who has no ties of kinship with him, look at the ascendant sign; if he poses a question about a quarrel, look at the seventh place and its lord; and for the querent look at the ascendant sign and its lord, as I will explain in the seventh place. Likewise, if he poses a question about a king who is not favorably inclined to him, look at the position of the Sun and the ascendant sign, but if he is favorably inclined to him look at the tenth place”.
The most of the authors that I’ve read say that the ascendant corresponds to the querent, only to the querent. But Ben Ezra says, as you can see, if the querent ask about someone unrelated to him, then we should use the ascendant anyway.
He take this in consideration especially when it comes about a medical question. If I ask about the health of anyone (a friend for example), I have nothing to do with the matter, it isn’t my body that is sick. So, the astrologer should look at the first house and not at the XI of friends, because this question is not about my friend and what he has to do with me, because his illness doesn’t affect me at all. If the question were: “Will my friend come to see me?”, then it would be a I – XI houses matter, but as I don’t appear on the scene (his sickness), it is a first house question and what afflicts it.
What is your opinion, astrologers, should we look at the first house when the question is about someone unrelated to us?
I have a question about Ben Ezra’s horary method
I know this would be better in “Horary Techniques”, but I want opinions from traditional views.
It’s about the first house. Here a fragment from the Book of Interrogations:
“The first place. Know that there is a great disagreement among astrologers about interrogations. Some say: if the querent poses a question about another person, always look at the ascendant because it is the root, and pronounce judgment according to what you have observed. Others said that the ascendant sign always corresponds to the querent and the seventh place to the object of the interrogation. But the truth is what I will tell you now: if the querent poses a question about himself, take the ascendant sign for him; if on behalf of one of his brothers, whether he will meet him and what will happen to him, take the third place and the position of Mars, and pronounce judgment from there. If he poses a question about the father, observe the fourth place and its lord, and proceed likewise if he poses a question about a son, a slave, a woman, a king, a lover, or an enemy. If the querent poses a question about another person who has no ties of kinship with him, look at the ascendant sign; if he poses a question about a quarrel, look at the seventh place and its lord; and for the querent look at the ascendant sign and its lord, as I will explain in the seventh place. Likewise, if he poses a question about a king who is not favorably inclined to him, look at the position of the Sun and the ascendant sign, but if he is favorably inclined to him look at the tenth place”.
The most of the authors that I’ve read say that the ascendant corresponds to the querent, only to the querent. But Ben Ezra says, as you can see, if the querent ask about someone unrelated to him, then we should use the ascendant anyway.
He take this in consideration especially when it comes about a medical question. If I ask about the health of anyone (a friend for example), I have nothing to do with the matter, it isn’t my body that is sick. So, the astrologer should look at the first house and not at the XI of friends, because this question is not about my friend and what he has to do with me, because his illness doesn’t affect me at all. If the question were: “Will my friend come to see me?”, then it would be a I – XI houses matter, but as I don’t appear on the scene (his sickness), it is a first house question and what afflicts it.
What is your opinion, astrologers, should we look at the first house when the question is about someone unrelated to us?
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