aSPECTS IN MY NATAL CHART. please!!!!!!

surrealsuburb123 · Aug 31, 2011

well i have my mercury semisquare ascendant with mercury being in aries (retrograde) and ascendant in aquarius.. also mercury trine midheaven with pluto in 10th hose. What exactly does that mean.

HEre is my birth data.. i was born in addis ababa ethiopia on april 15, 1998 at 3:00am.

Or here is my chart....
I would like some insight on aspects.. thnk You!

astrologer50 · Aug 31, 2011

surrealsuburb123 said:
well i have my mercury semisquare ascendant with mercury being in aries (retrograde) and ascendant in aquarius.. also mercury trine midheaven with pluto in 10th hose. What exactly does that mean.

HEre is my birth data.. i was born in addis ababa ethiopia on april 15, 1998 at 3:00am.

Or here is my chart....
I would like some insight on aspects.. thnk You!

You will get far more responses if you post your chart from www.astro.com rather than hoping or expecting members to do it for you

refixindex/category:
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm
http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/
http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php

planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

surrealsuburb123 · Aug 31, 2011

okay here is my natal chart...

Munch · Aug 31, 2011

This is probably not helpful, but I have found that Astro uses incredibly wide orbs that leave a little too much room for an accurate interpretation. This is MY opinion. That said, I would not consider Mercury semi-square your asc and not trine your MC. You would have a wide trine to Pluto though, giving you penetrating insights into how to go about achieving your ambitions.

Now all of that said, if I were you, I'd be looking into my Mars since it is singleton (meaning the only one of its kind as it is the only earth element planet that you have). Mars rules Aries and thus your Mercury. Mars also funnels the energy of your chart. A very quick look shows me that you are probably an incredibly driven and focused individual with quite a bit of energy. On first glance though, most people will not pick up on this and take you to be an easy going person that seems to be a bit aloof.

surrealsuburb123 · Aug 31, 2011

Is any creative talent there... like perhaps musical talent

But how come if i went to astrotheme or cafe astrology or free sites like those they show all the aspects u said i didn't have. Like mercury trine mc????

Munch · Aug 31, 2011

They use larger orbs than I do. Most people do to be fair. I'm kind of an odd duck in the astrology world practicing a mix of traditional and modern. I guess that would have a lot to do with my singleton Uranus.

I would think that your creativity would show itself through writing, perhaps something scholastic or educational. However, I also think that you may not be one for writing novels. Perhaps investigative journalism.

Another thing that just caught my eye (and I will not go into detail as I am headed off to bed, and I feel you would be better served studying it as opposed to reading my thoughts) is that you have both Jupiter and Venus strongly dignified in your 2nd house (remember I am a traditionalist that uses Whole Signs). Venus is in exaltation and Jupiter rules Pisces. They are both considered to be benefics (though you should never assume that this true of them without actually looking at their condition) and in the 2nd house, it would seem a lucky placement for money making, though you would be advised to keep yourself on the moral high ground at all times and not be too trusting of everyone. Don't assume people want to do right by you.

Anyway, all-in-all this is one of the more powerful charts that I have seen. There is a great deal of promise for a person that wants to set an example of ethics and show others the way to true prosperity.

Good night.

astrologer50 · Sep 1, 2011

surrealsuburb123 said:
Is any creative talent there... like perhaps musical talent

But how come if i went to astrotheme or cafe astrology or free sites like those they show all the aspects u said i didn't have. Like mercury trine mc????

Astro.com is 'very accurate' but I like others tend to reduce the orb ratio to 85% to bring them more in line with mainstream views..

the aspects you refer to are shown on the aspect grid, bottom left but not shown on the chart itself. they simply don't disappear :smile:

What happened age 4? anyone die, disappear? Age 6 did family move house? I notice you time could be 'rounded up' to 2am

With pluto conj MC suggests this is where you need control in life. You are not a typical aries either, with sun conj you will behave more like a Caprircorn/saturnian.

Ruler of the Tenth House in the First House

An authority figure or perhaps your father had a strong influence on your outlook on life.
You could have a strong desire to be your own boss, or your ability to be a strong authority figure is easily perceived by others.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr10

Jupiter conj Venus albeit wide orb 8' is still good news. Venus is exalted in pisces and these two really get along and will make you appear (first house/shop window) expansive (jupiter) and possibly quite jokular and venus could be attractive and wanting to dress venusianly.

As you are ONLY 13 there is plenty of time to sort out work/career issues. Follow some links I gave you for Saggi MC and 9th house matters give good indicators..

surrealsuburb123 · Sep 1, 2011

well i appreciate your insights... and thank you munch ! But i see what your talking about because i do have a knack for writing but more towards fictional types, but writing essays or doing research papers have always been an easier from of communication. Now i was wondering where i get my musical abilities from because i'm a self taught pianist and i compose music using software programs i'm currently trying to get a better hand at guitar but i also play clarinet. I figured it could have something to do with mars' 'energy' and drive but i'm not sure.

And astrologer50 .. when i was 4 I immigrated to america with my mother. Around 5 or 6 i moved to a different city and obviously house and in 4th grade i moved to the home i currently live in (Gemini n 4th). I can identify with the sun conjunct Saturn aspect but because of the uranus influence with the ascendant i'm more erratic with my approach to alot of things. Discipline or responsibility can also go two ways for me, if i don't agree i refuse to listen, if i can identify then i'll accept, but usually my beliefs are set purposefully to be against status quo. But i'm getting just a slight bit off topic :lol:

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But yeah i'm not exactly your typical aries...

And i've been strategically planning my career and basically my whole life since i was 8, because i do want to have power and authority and control over those matters, and i definetely like to be boss (pluto conjunct mc), but i'm not trying to sound haughty. :innocent:

And since i'm still merely a student of astrology , i wanted to know how orbs work and how changing house systems can affect the outcome of an interpretation. Also when there is a conjunction aspect to the ascendant or sun or angular houses does it emphasize the traits of that planet in that area more than a trine or sextile?

thanks!!! :joyful:

astrologer50 · Sep 2, 2011

And since i'm still merely a student of astrology , i wanted to know how orbs work and how changing house systems can affect the outcome of an interpretation. Also when there is a conjunction aspect to the ascendant or sun or angular houses does it emphasize the traits of that planet in that area more than a trine or sextile?

This can be quite contentious between astrologers, but I/mainstream use these...

conjunction, squares (90')and oppositions (180')+ or- 8' but upto 10' for luminaries (sun,moon)
Sextiles (60') and trines(120') + or - 6'
quincunx 150' max + or - 3'
aspects to Asc and MC same orbs as above, but obviously the closer the orb the stronger the aspect will be felt.

aspect orbs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/orbs.php
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspects.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope
http://www.myastrologybook.com/aspects-and-orbs.htm
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7107&highlight=orbs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7867&highlight=orbs

Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...

The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....

“The angles of the chart are the strongest, most potent sectors. In most house systems these mark the beginnings of the first, tenth, seventh and fourth houses, in order of potency. Any planet in conjunction with an angle will have a marked influence that resonates throughout the chart and greatly colours its overall meaning. Planets located in the angles of the chart are the strongest and most significant. Because of their primary importance, the angles are often referred to as the cardinal points and they relate directly to the cardinal directions east, south, west and north.”
http://www.astrologycom.com/houses.html

astrologer50 · Sep 2, 2011

“The eleventh, second, eighth and fifth houses are called succedent ("following" the angles), while the third, twelfth, ninth and sixth are termed cadent ("falling away" from the angles). The succedents are next in strength. Planets in succedent houses function at around 50% of their power, based on the strength of an angular placement, which is the most potent.

The cadent houses are traditionally held to be poor and of little efficacy.
According to traditional astrology, planets in cadent houses only function at 25% of their power, compared with a position in one of the angles of the chart.
http://www.astrologycom.com/houses.html

I personally don't feel cadent houses lose 75% of there energy, possibly upto 50% being a modern astrologer

astrologer50 · Sep 2, 2011

How to find your career- sticky in Vocational Forum
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32775

Money & you
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php
http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/astrology_of_money_wealth.html
career significators
http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html
http://www.janetboyer.com/Midheaven_in_Sagittarius.html
http://astropro.ru/horoscope/?p=78
planets conj MC
http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm

Professional & Destiny
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/astrology_professional_destiny.php
sticky in vocational astrology forum
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32775
Astro’s vocation section
http://www.babybirthchart.com/zodiac-signs/midheaven/
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_vocation2_n.htm?lang=z

My thoughts and links on vocation
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=264759&postcount=7
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12398&postcount=1

Waybread’s thoughts on Vocation
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=264335&postcount=2

Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

astrologer50 · Sep 2, 2011

Ruler of the First House in the Twelfth House

Your outlook on life can be brought into balance by spending some time alone to meditate and recharge your batteries.
Avoid becoming your own adversary by falling into the "woe is me" victim trap. Spiritual philosophies that go beyond traditional orthodox viewpoints can bring revealing insights into your life and the meaning of it all. You may identify somehow with large public institutions that provide a service to society, especially the helping professions.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr1

Munch · Sep 2, 2011

I think your Venus in Pisces and in it's own house no less gives you a strong musical inclination.

astrologer50 · Sep 2, 2011

Munch said:
I think your Venus in Pisces and in it's own house no less gives you a strong musical inclination.

venus is in first house, not 12th :w00t:

Munch · Sep 2, 2011

Not using Whole Signs like I do as I stated in my second post.

astrologer50 · Sep 2, 2011

Munch said:
Not using Whole Signs like I do as I stated in my second post.

fair enough..

Let's see where OP feels/identifies where venus belongs in thier chart as there is massive difference in interpretations with venus in 12th hidden/cadent and 1st house being in your shop window/visible...

planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

Munch · Sep 2, 2011

I don't recall saying that Venus was in the 12th house. I said 2nd. Hell, there's a very real possibility that she makes an eventual living using music. She did say that she is self taught and learning more all of the time as well as writing. Of course she is also 13, so this may be a tough one to know for sure until she's older.

I think that you thought I was saying 12th house because of my poor wording about Venus in Pisces in it's own house. I meant that Venus was in it's own house so to speak.

Surreal, apologies about referring to you in the third person and also if my post was confusing. Pisces does rule the 12th house. Venus is a natural in the 2nd house because Taurus rules it and Venus rules Taurus. Hope that clarifies things.

surrealsuburb123 · Sep 19, 2011

yeah its been awhile since i replied.. but if venus and jupiter is in the second house.. then whats in my 1st house?

astrologer50 · Sep 20, 2011

surrealsuburb123 said:
yeah its been awhile since i replied.. but if venus and jupiter is in the second house.. then whats in my 1st house?

In whole sign - nothing and that stellium in aries would also move to 3rd house. whle sign goes back to 0' of that sign on each house cusp. Whereas Equal house has the same degree as Asc on each house cusp.

Music creativity we would look to 5th house and it's cusp and in Equal house gemin/mecury retro (this shows delays) rules 5th house and is posited in 2nd house.

ruler of the Fifth House in the Second House
Financial speculation can increase your income as well as make the most of your innate creative abilities. If you are a highly creative person then most likely these are inherited talents. You may have very strong attachments to your children and your children enhance your feelings of self worth. Recreational activities and creative projects are part of your value system.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr5

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