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MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

Hello members,
I have been learning and trying out reading NATAL charts. (mainly started with my own a few months back)
It has been always a difficult learning streak with so much loads of info around BUT each part of it is fascinating and illuminating, the more you read, which is really nice & helping.

But i have come across this Unusual (donno this word is appropriate but quite different from what i have seen, here and around everywhere else)
I just charted this out & trying to see and read about various components of it.
Its like a BIG empty farmhouse with :
IN PLACIDUS: 2 adjacent Stellium's - in 1st house (sagittarius) & one in scorpio (ascendant)
IN EQUAL : 3 adjacent Stellium's in 12th 1st & 2nd house.
2nd imp. thing i see as important (is it?) is a Close Pluto-Sun Conjunc. in Scorpio

But i would like everyone to kindly contribute to its reading in the form of :
1) BASIC (or MAJOR) aspects
2) Hard or soft aspects (or as some call them Resistive or Easy aspects)
3) Any personal experience you have regarding them in relation to the this chart.
4) Any suggestions/advise you have for the chart bearer.

As regarding the bearer of this chart:
Age wise, the person is in late 20's , not much far from his/her saturn return & is a female of the species.

Looking forward to many informative related replies.
Thanks in advance.
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I didn't expect "no reply".
Anyway if mods consider this, to be moved to natal astrology forum, Kindly do it. (or i need to contact them?)
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

I'm a beginner, unique so I won't comment except to say that does seem to be pretty unusual. It looks somewhat like the chart of a neice of mine. She has pretty much everything bunched up in Scorp,Saggi, Cappi too. Her chart looks like someone shook a box of Lucky Charms and they all stuck to one side!
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

My planets are gathered in Capricorn and Scorpio.Don't know if my chart counts.Except for Saturn which is in Aquarius everything else(6 planets) are in Capricorn(3 planets)in Scorpio.
I also have Capricorn Asc and Scorpio MC.
Thought I should let you know.
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

Hi,

The chart you posted isn't soooo different. I posted the chart of a friend of mine.His chart is similar, I know not exactly the same,but similar enough to say something.
My friend's chart shows a lot of karma (if you believe in that sort of thing) It looks like your ?niece? has a similar chart in that respect.

My friends chart

http://imgur.com/Xr4zd

Does she have any desire to work for herself or by herself? Has she ever been placed in a private institution of some sort?(My friend has his own business at home and was in military school as a child) Is she psychic?(My friend is... very) telepathic,clairvoyant,can see spirits etc. I'm doing just a general comparison,but I can look at chart aspects too.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...iquintile.html

Sun Quintile or Bi-Quintile Mars

You have a knack for developing creative ways to achieve your goals. Rather than meet obstacles head on, you have a talent for developing graceful maneuvers that are more effective. You can excel at a sport or competition that requires finesse and creativity as well as strength and power.


Sun sextile Jupiter, Sun trine Jupiter
Endowed with generosity and friendliness, these people appear to be lucky in life. They attract good things with a positive frame of mind and a charitable disposition. Rarely entirely "down and out", people with Sun in harmonious aspect to Jupiter are usually well-received, helpful, and well-informed.
General discussion of Sun-Jupiter aspects.

Alternate interpretations:

Sun sextile Jupiter: Your life is apt to be blessed with more than your share of helpful friends, fortuitous connections, and doors opening to you at just the right time. Because you are usually willing to share and to give back to others in a generous way, you continue to generate successes in your life no matter how unfortunate prevailing circumstances are. Beware, however, of becoming an opportunist.-- Interpretation from our Merlin Profile report.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/s...lejupiter.html


Sun sextile or trine Neptune
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/s...neaspects.html


http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/s...ntaspects.html


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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

This type of chart is called a "bundle" chart, with all of the planets in just a few adjacent signs and houses. It will give the person a lot of focus, but maybe not the ability to understand life from points of view that don't reference his/her own perspective on life. With sun conjunct Pluto in Scorpio and Mars quintile Pluto, this person will deal with a lot of power issues, and may come across to others as aggressive. The problem is that Pluto demands profound transformation, and when it aspects the sun, it is one's identity that constantly has to redefine itself; including in relation to other people.

If you count chiron as a planet [some astrologers do and some don't] then this chart would be called a "bucket", with Chiron as the handle. In either case, Chiron and the NN clustered around the DC suggest that this person's growth and wisdom will come through other people; either through service to them [6th house] or in long-term relationships [7th house.]

The sextiles look fun, but this person will have major squares and oppositions coming up later in life; possibly without the internal resources and experience to deal with them. A square or opposition in a birth chart can be really tough; but then when one hits by transit, the native has some life experience with which to deal with them.

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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

A Friend had a similar Chart which I posted recently .. This was from what I have gleaned briefly a 1962 precedent .. so much so that an entire 'blog' was dedicated to it ..
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

Hey guys, thanks for replies but if you carefully see the charts posted you will these the TYPICAL (acute) aggregation in three houses!
@joyrjw
Thanks for your reply and time. Chart posted by you and others are fine but planets are still spread and have oppositions and trines and stuff!
Well she is very intellectual (that i can say it), psychic, and stuff, no idea! Presently she aint working on anything on individual level but she ain't that open to all (thats scoprio stuff imo )


Anyway, now another startling chart,
The attached is a progressed chart of SAME person (LATEST)
& if you see how SIMILAR (absurdly similar to natal) that chart is as far as planetary placements are concerned in number as well as houses and signs! I am surely perplexed whats going on with all that similar placements with again just chiron as handle, with again at almost SAME natal position.


@ Waybread
Thanks again dear.
May i request you to provide more info on this and the bad/good qualities of this person , to be improved/worked upon.
Further some info about career/family issues!
Esp, when you have now seen the more mind boggling, progressed chart!
What this person can be going through under all those BUNDLED aspects?


@Starlink ,Dr Farr, Raven , winconste, astrologer50, modcleopatra, piercethevale and others helping guys/gals
Kindly please have a look and put forward your views about natal as well as similarly jaw dropping progressed chart esp. regarding persons life, career, family & intellect.

Thanks guys!


P.S. Starlink , its been long to hear from you. Hope you are going good and health is fine too! hugs!
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

In any case...this is my chart:
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...une/chartt.png
Don't know if it's weird but usually people are surprised to see it.
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In any case...this is my chart:
http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/a...une/chartt.png
Don't know if it's weird but usually people are surprised to see it.
Yup agree that's also pretty so called "different" and similar (yet bit more wide). You have any discussion thread about it? I will love to read about!
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

i will look tomorrow

I got your PM

this is indeed intersting chart
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Yup agree that's also pretty so called "different" and similar (yet bit more wide). You have any discussion thread about it? I will love to read about!
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I have many...XD

Here are some:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=26179
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=26613
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=26504
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I have many...XD
Here are some:
lol..thanks i will take a look

@Tikana.
Thanks i sent some pm's around. I hope to see people participating in this thread.
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

hey Gem

do you have a permission to post this chart for analysis?
if I were to look at it in depth, i would like to get an okay from that person

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hey Gem
do you have a permission to post this chart for analysis?
Nice name.. GEM .. (i am hell of a gem, a weird one ..lol)
Well can you guide to some forum guidelines about that? Infact i posted this after that person (still very new to astro) asked me to have a basic look for her ! Still let me know and i will confirm!
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But i would like everyone to kindly contribute to its reading in the form of :
1) BASIC (or MAJOR) aspects
2) Hard or soft aspects (or as some call them Resistive or Easy aspects)
3) Any personal experience you have regarding them in relation to the this chart.
4) Any suggestions/advise you have for the chart bearer.
bundle chart
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/bundle.htm
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.astrococktail.com/planetaryorderIII.html

house meanings
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm

Natal chart aspects
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm
http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects

planets in houses
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php

Planets conjunct a house cusp
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202304&postcount=7
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=205033#post205033
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

@tikana
Well i asked & as i said its fine with her.

@astrologer50
as expected..big list of links but i have them most of them (you are the source only ) I will check out the new ones though.
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Re: MOST Unusual NATAL chart i have ever seen !

Placidus chart comments (since that is the only house system I use)...

IF the chart is correct AS IS with no adjustment, this person would have a bent towards the accumulation and/or involvement with resources, their management and growth, as in banking, investing, real estate. That is because the 2nd-8th houses intercept Capricorn-Cancer. IF the chart is correct this is the most important characteristic of it. If the person does not show this orientation by around their 30s or 40s, then the chart is not correct. This is a major rectifying factor to be considered. Forget house positions of planets until this is determined.

MAJOR ASPECTS:
There are a number of possibilities for conjunctions or parallels to a verified chart for this person. I cannot determine those without the birth data and knowing about the person. Other than that...
1.) close conjunctions of Venus-Moon-Uranus
2.) close conj sun-pluto
3.) mercury conj saturn
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IF the chart is correct AS IS with no adjustment, this person would have a bent towards the accumulation and/or involvement with resources, their management and growth, as in banking, investing, real estate......
Hello kannon, well i assure you the birth details (down to the minute of Time of Birth) are correct. Chart has been charted at astodienst using exact data. In fact i also posted the progression chart of same individual (which is again very unique and similar to natal chart, with very similar placements).
So there is no point problem with that!

As regarding sectors dealing with resources & management (banking, estate and investing), as i mentioned already the person is close to saturn return and presently no way related to those sectors (more with something which involves humanitarian job) . This person is surely quite intelligent, hard working & quite focused IMO and has proved so in past.
(This aggregated bundled chart +Mars quintile Pluto + Jupiter conjunct Mars quite inform about that determination and focus in one field)

As you got the things clear now, may be you can look & explain more on what you said before and anything else you want to share.

Appreciate it.
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Gemini,

You said:
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...i have come across this Unusual (donno this word is appropriate but quite different from what i have seen, here and around everywhere else)...Any suggestions/advise you have for the chart bearer.
The thing I haven't yet seen mentioned is that this person's (future goals) is on their Descendant (others) and is FAR away from the focus of their planets. This indicate this person has to step WAY outside their "comfort zone" in order to do the necessary connecting with others in their life. Focusing on themselves is VERY easy to do but ultimately won't help them develop in their life.

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Re: node, to Gemini

Well actually , that was what i was about to ask (about north node) bcoz i just read on another thread, you mentioned the same as that chart also has similar north node isolated (in a not so aggregated bundle chart).

"outside their "comfort zone" to do the necessary connecting with others in their life"
Can you elaborate? and any more links about it?

Thanks



P.S. Waybread did mention about it a a bit, above.

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Gemini,

You said:
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"outside their "comfort zone" to do the necessary connecting with others in their life" Can you elaborate? and any more links about it?
This is something that only the chart owner would know for certain. There would be a strong connection to themselves and doing things for themselves...but ultimately a sense that something was "missing" somehow. That "missing" something is the need to connect with others (indicated by the on the Descendant).

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See, what i have heard(read actually) is ascendant is about what we have got , the qualities (kinda innate) and descendant is what we got to work for. (qualities we need to acquire). What exactly is north node about? is it about others?

this is what waybread wrote
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If you count chiron as a planet [some astrologers do and some don't] then this chart would be called a "bucket", with Chiron as the handle. In either case, Chiron and the NN clustered around the DC suggest that this person's growth and wisdom will come through other people; either through service to them [6th house] or in long-term relationships [7th house.]
Probably he mentioned of 6th or 7th bcoz NN is just about to enter 7th. May be in this case 7th house Relationships is what the person is MAINLY "missing".

Can you also gimme some good links giving info about NN at descendant?
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