explosive energy

mayin

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Hi folks,

I have been feeling a very strong angry energy within me lately, a lot of aggression, wanting to punch a wall. The reasons for this is mainly financial and work related -- I have been trying to find a suitable job for a long time, and inspite of interest from prospective employers, hard work on very targeted applications, even great interviews at times, I can't secure a regular job. I feel that I am not simply making mistakes or doing it 'wrong' but that something is blocking my way.

Anyhow, I know that I am in the middle of my saturn return. I know that this activates my Mars-Pluto-Saturn stellium in the 4th opposing MC and that describes accurately my anger and frustration. I feel that if I don't find a use for my energy I will not only get further into depression but that I might physically hurt myself through injury or illness. I have been on the lookout for intense physical activities (rock climbing etc) that get me sweating out of the house, and am doing what I can, but everything seems so expensive just now and I can only afford little. I feel I have a lot of energy and nowhere to put it, whatever I am interested doesn't let me in. My usual passive activities of reading, cooking etc are just not cutting it.

My questions are: do you think this will last for the whole period of my saturn return? Just by looking at my chart, can you see anything that I can do to release this energy? I feel that whatever I try do workwise is blocked, do you have any clues as to why this is or what I can do?
I'm happy to hear any impression at all you get from my chart.

Where I personally struggle with astrology is that I can describe situations well but I can't find a solution or release from any difficulties. This is why I am turning to you.

Background info: I have a part-time job that keeps me afloat, its okay but not challenging or growing in the least. I am also studying counselling at a part-time course.

Thanks very much
 

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Inside Out Orange

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I have been on the lookout for intense physical activities (rock climbing etc) that get me sweating out of the house, and am doing what I can, but everything seems so expensive just now and I can only afford little. I feel I have a lot of energy and nowhere to put it, whatever I am interested doesn't let me in. My usual passive activities of reading, cooking etc are just not cutting it.

Yup ... intense physical activities are the answer ... running around the block isn't expensive ... or perhaps just go find a field in the middle of nowhere and YELL ...

Is there any DIY project you could put your energies into? (avoiding anything with sharp implements :wink) ... If there was a big gardening project e.g. tree cutting that would probably be a good release for the anger ...

In the end you're looking for anger management techniques ... I'd imagine the web is loaded with articles on this ... things like keeping a diary to let your thoughts out ... writing down all the things that have made you angry each day and then ripping up the paper once you're done ... even just hitting a pillow and cushion to exhaust yourself!
 

mayin

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Thanks for the link to that thread Yennifer. Interesting posts. I identify with the ideas of Saturn refining actions and drives. Easier said than done though. Its a triple whammy for me, Mars-Pluto-Saturn over the next while, so no bets on how it will turn out. For now i am trying to actively visualise the kind of life I want in an attempt to manifest it :) And taking serotonin-inducing supplements which are helping.

IOA, I would be running around the block belive me if everything was not covered in ice! I will be a caged wild animal this winter.
 
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Yennefer

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Yes, seems like it will be interesting and intensive time for you (for me as well, but my Libra stellium is in the 11th house).

4th house refers to your roots, early childhood, family and with so many planets here, there´s a lot of buried anger possibly connected to these areas that now comes up as Saturn transits through it (and Saturn will also square Venus that rules the stellium). It is very good that you are trying to find ways to release that energy in a constructive way. The ultimate theme here, though, may be getting to the causes of that anger that´s being released.
 

Betty F

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Hi folks,

I have been feeling a very strong angry energy within me lately, a lot of aggression, wanting to punch a wall. The reasons for this is mainly financial and work related --

Background info: I have a part-time job that keeps me afloat, its okay but not challenging or growing in the least. I am also studying counselling at a part-time course.

Thanks very much

Your anger is not about money or success, it just feels that way. T-Saturn was conjunct the IC and oppose your Moon-MC. Saturn has been asking you to restrict invalid and ineffectual emotions. He's been showing you ways you've been sacrificing potential for security or undermining yourself out of fear. Now it's triggering a reaction from your Mars and you're probably just angry that you've had to deal with it at all. Mars-Saturn can give you a really productive experience if you can get past the emotional issues.

I can see you being very effective as a counselor and very successful with it. One thing you need to see.. as a lifetime mission, is that there will always be a lot of self healing for you in that line of work.

With the North Node conjunct your Cancer ascendant your goal is to value and develop the sensitive attributes of your personality.Your security is not based on where you come from, but on who you are. The ascendant-NN square your 4th house stellum suggests that you had some challenging experiences early in life that interfered with developing your personality and individuality.

Mars opposing the Moon (barely, mainly they share the MC/IC axis) and the Moon trine Uranus suggests that your chose to deal with the adversity by detaching yourself to protect your sensitivities and emotions. This kind of independent self-nurturing is certainly not a bad thing, except that it has some obvious limitations. The worst of it is internalizing your anger.

The resolution is not to punch pillows, but to deal with the 4th house issues and allow yourself (your personality) to grow past them. The 4th house would suggest clinging to the past, or an imbalanced influence from the past. It is the source of habitual, sometimes invalid or out-dated, emotional and behavioral responses (especially with with the Moon cjn MC. The progresses Sun conjunct your natal Moon is giving it greater emphasis than usual.)

Looking forward and visualizing your future is a great thing to be doing. But, you also need to look at the past and identify undesirable emotional triggers. You can choose to change your reactions to those triggers based on here-and-now-mature-adult-type assessments of the past and present. Your Saturn return will help you with that. When Pluto squares your stellum, you'll be glad you started it.

So, Jupiter, your 6th house ruler, is in your ninth house in Pisces and squaring (motivating, expanding) your 6th house Neptune, and you're studying counseling. How "textbook Astrology" can you get? Was t-Jupiter conjunct t-Neptune when you decided to get in to counseling, or perhaps conjunct your Sun? Did I mention your 8th house Sun quintiles Neptune and Chiron. You're going to be great at it.

The 9th house is where we explore the options the world gives us. It's where we gather collective knowledge and use what we need to prepare to succeed in the 10th. I call it the "prepare to shine" house. Jupiter and Uranus are preparing you for a future that's much different from your past, and probably far exceeds anything you can visualize right now. I know you're feeling the need for more security right now, but you really are exactly where you should be, doing exactly what you should be doing. Try to trust in the process.

And..... Not being able to see how to handle what you see in your chart... You have a strong western hemisphere bucket pattern in your chart that makes it hard to externalize and "see". Do some reading about the pattern to see how to best use it. Use transiting planets and, especially, progressed planets in Aries to Virgo to find potentials and solutions. I don't have a birth date to work with, but my guess is that you have only had your progressed Moon in your eastern hemisphere most of your life. After your progressed Sun enters your 10th, about 4 years from now, that will start changing dramatically.
 
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Hi folks,

I have been feeling a very strong angry energy within me lately, a lot of aggression, wanting to punch a wall. The reasons for this is mainly financial and work related -- I have been trying to find a suitable job for a long time, and inspite of interest from prospective employers, hard work on very targeted applications, even great interviews at times, I can't secure a regular job. I feel that I am not simply making mistakes or doing it 'wrong' but that something is blocking my way.

Anyhow, I know that I am in the middle of my saturn return. I know that this activates my Mars-Pluto-Saturn stellium in the 4th opposing MC and that describes accurately my anger and frustration. I feel that if I don't find a use for my energy I will not only get further into depression but that I might physically hurt myself through injury or illness. I have been on the lookout for intense physical activities (rock climbing etc) that get me sweating out of the house, and am doing what I can, but everything seems so expensive just now and I can only afford little. I feel I have a lot of energy and nowhere to put it, whatever I am interested doesn't let me in. My usual passive activities of reading, cooking etc are just not cutting it.

My questions are: do you think this will last for the whole period of my saturn return? Just by looking at my chart, can you see anything that I can do to release this energy? I feel that whatever I try do workwise is blocked, do you have any clues as to why this is or what I can do?
I'm happy to hear any impression at all you get from my chart.

Where I personally struggle with astrology is that I can describe situations well but I can't find a solution or release from any difficulties. This is why I am turning to you.

Background info: I have a part-time job that keeps me afloat, its okay but not challenging or growing in the least. I am also studying counselling at a part-time course.

Thanks very much


T Saturn conj natal mars is what's causing all the frustrations at present.

When Saturn transits conjunct Mars:
The purpose of this transit is to cool your passions in some manner, to conserve your energy for what truly matters, and to discipline your approach to getting what you want from life. Circumstances may be such that you are required to exercise restraint in your life now. You may be encountering resistance or blockages if you push yourself too hard, assert yourself too strongly, or express anger in an excessive manner. Something may happen now that restricts your freedom of movement in some manner, and you are in the position to redirect your energies.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitaspects.html
Initially, you might feel frustrated and thwarted, or you may experience a lack of drive and enthusiasm. As the transit progresses, you will be learning to direct your energies into endeavors that are truly helpful and useful to you. You might also be learning to curb some of the excesses in your life, as well as to go about getting what you want in a more mature, temperate, and moderate manner. You will be examining the ways you express your anger, how that has hindered you in the past, and how you might better do so in the future.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitaspects.html
Saturn Return
Saturn takes 30 years or so to complete its circuit around the zodiac so events that occur around the age of 29-30, 58-59 and 84-87 will be of great significance to the native, depending on the strength and aspects to natal saturn.
http://www.newage-directory.com/saturn.html
http://www.astrologycom.com/saturn.html
http://www.saturnreturn.net/what_is.html
http://www.examiner.com/x-2766-Atlan...-Saturn-return

http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/dysfunctional-saturn

Further Reading:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturn.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturn_att.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return
http://www.newage-directory.com/saturn.html
http://astrology.about.com/od/advanc...turnReturn.htm
http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrol...turn_retu.html
http://rudhyar.com/beautyofaging.shtml
http://www.insiderreports.com/storyp...oryID=20011993
http://ancientsky.com/index.php?opti...d=25&Itemid=49
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=...m=10&ct=result
http://www.lifescript.com/Soul/Horos...aking_Out.aspx
http://www.ancientsky.com/parker/parker_2ndSaturn.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=11903
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ead.php?t=5884
http://www.bemyastrologer.com/saturn..._in_virgo.html
 

mayin

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Thanks Betty F for your insightful post. I will reply in detail in a few days time, its all rather hectic at the moment.

And thanks for the links Astrologer50, will have a browse very soon.
 

mayin

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hi betty

sorry i did not reply to your post before. i do appreciate the effort you put into your response and have meant to get back to you but felt unable to communicate.

i'm editing out the long rant i posted before.

thanks for everything you wrote. they mirror what i have been feeling instinctively, that everything is exactly as it should be. big transformations are in effect, and its all very topsy turvy at the moment, but i am working on greater clarity.
 

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