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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

I suspect that the correlation between the horoscope and MB is strong.

I think the failure is in the reading of the chart, coupled with sparse understanding of the MB types.

I haven't researched the subject, but have looked at a few charts with that in mind....

If astrology "works"
and if MB "works"
Then....

Lately I have been looking at questions like "Is this man a psychopath?", or "Is this man accident prone?"....

The chart clearly shows these things IF WE LOOK FOR DESCRIPTION OF SYMPTOMS RATHER THAN LABELS. There are few if any specific positions or aspect patterns associated with this or that psychological type or behavior (a recognizable and defined complex, syndrome or set of behaviors/traits)....but the symptoms can be seen in the chart. Our problem, or mine, is lack of knowledge of the symptoms of what a psychiatric label implies. There is no aspect that declares This person is a psychopath, but the symptoms that the label psychopath implies are clear and easy to find in a chart; if we find the symptoms, we can diagnose for the condition.

If I find that a chart contains indicators of the behaviors and traits that are used to describe accident prone in the psychiatric literature, then I can apply the label “accident prone” with confidence and expect the full range of behaviors and consequences associated with the term. But just because a person has an accident that affects his life course does not make him “accident prone” in the sense implied by that term in the psychiatric literature.

I will try to illustrate. I did an online chart -- just one of those casual "read my chart" things -- for a man from India one night. He was in his 40s or 50s. I told him two things. First, that he tended to meet life in terms of extreme force and violence. Second, I suggested he should be self-employed. He then asked, "What do I do for a living?"....and I said "I haven't the faintest idea." He then told me he was a colonel in the Indian Army, the commander of combat infantry division in Kashmir.

Consider that. I saw the necessary elements descriptive of a military officer in a zone of conflict (symptoms). But I didn't put them together in my mind. I used the wrong terminology in regard to "self-employment"; it should have been "ultimate authority" or "self-directing," and that misled my thinking.... My mind did not synthesize the symptoms and locate the label “military officer.” It was a failure in synthesis on my part, and not a failure of the chart.

And that sort of thing is what happens when we don't have a good grasp of symptoms. It's there, in the chart, but we fail to recognize it.

The MB types are labels for more or less specific patterns of behavior and orientation. I'm quite sure the horoscope and the label will match closely if we understand these "labels" as descriptors of symptoms. In horoscopes where a marked preponderance of planets occupy Cardinal signs we are apt to find an extroverted personality; weight on Earth signs is likely to indicate a person who relies on and perceives through the senses, sensation.

I wonder how many of us here have read Jung’s Personality Types and understand that what he means by extroversion/introversion is not congruent with the way most of us think about those terms. Jung’s use of the terms refers primarily to two diametrically opposed world views which are incompatible, in fundamental conflict. The terms do not refer to an outgoing personality as opposed to a hermit, which is the popular understanding.

In terms of Jungian psychology the Water signs correspond very closely with Feeling, Air with Thinking, Fire with Intuition and Earth with Sensation. If a preponderance of one of these Elements is present in a chart, we can diagnose for the corresponding Jungian types.

I have seen many discussions among astrologers hinging on the question, "Can you see homosexuality in the horoscope?" We all know what homosexuality is, although it takes on many forms of expression, so "label" is not a big problem. And what I see in these discussions is that about half of the astrologers say, "No, you can't." But I say you can not only see homosexuality, but the basic sexuality -- of whatever sort -- of any and every person in their chart. It is there to see, if that's what you want to look at. You can see if a person is born to wealth and privilege, or if mother was cruel or distant or cold; you can see the how and why of relationship problems.......It's all there.

These things are seen through seeing the chart as a whole. To say that planet “A” in square to planet “G”, if in Common signs, indicates flat feet (in any horoscope where the aspect is found) simply does not work. Nothing in a chart -- or, more importantly, in a person -- operates in isolation. The chart and the person are organic wholes.


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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

Lets see if IM doing this right....

INFJ

Introverted - 9 planets in feminine signs opposed to masculine signs
Intuitive - 5 planets in Water...12th house Moon 4th house Neptune
Feeling - Moon trine Neptune, sextile Pluto Sun trine Pluto, oppose Neptune
Judging - 3 planets in Cancer in the 10th...Virgo Rising, Moon. Mercury trine Saturn. Venus in Taurus.

Whats the difference between Intuitive and Feeling? Would the two have similarities in the astrology chart?

engram personality type 7.... Isn't that kind of an oxymoron?

I'm a double 7 in numerology.

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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

Here is the problem, once again.

We are trying to match a horoscope to undefined terms.

Introvert and extrovert do not carry the same meaning in Jungian terms as in what most people understand them to be, so how can you match the chart to MB?

In the above post (and this is no criticism of the person posting) we don't know the difference between "intuition" and "feeling" (the way the terms are used in MB, what they signify)....

Before you can match anything to something else you must know what you are matching, what you are looking for, what you are saying by doing the matching.

Until you define, you are blind.

So --- whoever originated this thread, or whoever shares a deep interest in the topic
Should take the trouble to define all 8 terms that form the basis of the personality typings

I have been talking about the same principle lately, related to other psychological topics.....I have used the word "symptoms"
The horoscope shows "diagnostic symptoms".
If we define "Introvert", for example, then we look for the descriptors of an introvert in the chart (the "symtoms") --- according to the usage of the word, its deep meaning, by Jung. Just what is it that differentiates the introvert from the extrovert, the judgmental type from the perceptive?...Before we can compare astrology to Myers-Briggs we have to UNDERSTAND what the terms mean.


I don't know much at all about MB. Probably 7 or 8 years ago I did the online testing. I did it twice at separated times, and each time took two different tests. My reason for this was to try to get a uniform result, and I did. So -- I decided that the testing (typing) is accurate.

I then gathered all I could find online describing the type. I think I ended up with six or eight pages describing many aspects of my personality/life.

I could see that a trained psychologist would be able to take the "readout" far deeper than I could, with my limited understanding and resources. What I was able to see did not compare in depth to the horoscope, but as far as they both went the match was excellent. The reason for the greater depth of the horoscope I just described above: my own lack of knowledge and understandin of Myers-Briggs and modern psychology in general.

I am quite convinced that the two systems give very similar results.

But you MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMS YOU ARE TRANSLATING ASTROLOGY INTO, or you can't make a "scientific" comparison.

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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

No offense taken that's why I asked. Thanks for telling me Greybeard. I don't know what I was talking about. Was just trying to have fun and not take everything so serious.

For all I know all systems are wrong.

Maybe you could write your views on what connections cause what? You seem educated in the subject... Enlighten the blind!

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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

Darn my Mercury square Saturn....

Both systems work very well.

I am ignorant of Myers-Briggs, other than what I learned by doing the testing on myself. What I learned was basically "This is an effective way to describe a personality and its consequences. For anyone interested, it is worth pursuing."

I am not the one to do this work.

And.....I find astrology quite adequate. It goes very deep, and has the advantage of having the capacity to time critical events.
Myers-Briggs has the advantage, for the layman, of simplicity (on the surface).

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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

I find the Myers-Briggs Personality Types very spot on, most of the qualities of my type fit perfectly for me. But if only I could know what astrological aspects match them. Well, I'll try to guess...
I'm an INFJ. Introverted - definetely. And pobably Saturn retrograde at the end of the 11th house but I consider it a 12th house Saturn. It's in Aries. But the introvertion is not the only thing that can be the result of this placing, Saturn is a major part of my character and will probably play a bigger role in the future.
The iNtuitive part can be my Moon conjunct Neptune and Uranus(I don't know if the conjunction to MC has anything to do with intuitiveness).
Feeling - not sure how astrology shows this. I have a lack of water element and according to most of the information I've read about this in Internet, I'm unemotional. Which is completely untrue. I have constant tides of emotions inside that can overwhelm me entirely at times and it has always been a wonder to me how this is not the most important thing in my chart(my age is said to be 'problematic' but there is a big difference between the biology of your body and a personal quality. I can easily set a definite borderline between the two) . Maybe the fault is not in astrology itself, but rather in me being unabe to properly interpret my chart, so I hope one day I will see things more clearly. My Moon in Capricorn is certainly not expressive.
Judging - Earthy influence and probably a lot of aspects show it, but I can't recognise them. Libra Sun, Virgo Venus, planets in Capricorn, maybe some Saturnian aspects...

The Myers-Briggs method, just like astrology, is a very good tool for deep psychological research. I'm always fascinated by the creative side of self-examination and this forum is one of the places where I think INFJs are not so rare .

My Enneagram type is Sx4(always one point difference between 4 and Types 3 or 8. Probably 4w3 but one test result described me as 'omni' - "...people who don't have a stand out mean type. As they are balanced in all nine behaviors, the 1-9 type descriptions don't generally apply to them.") - the aspects to my Uranus in Aquarius in 10th house(conjunct Amor), Mars in Leo square Pluto and Pluto(opposite Ascendant) in the 7th(along with Nessus, Eros, Cupido, Ixion and Pallas Athene of which Pallas, Nessus, Ixion and Eros conjunct Pluto and Psyche squares it) and Scorpio Descendant.

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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

Very interesting. I also have Saturn in Aries in 12th and mine in conjunct my Sun. Venus and Mercury are also in 12th so I believe that may explain the I of my INTP. Like you, I'm weak in Water planets however, I would not describe myself as feeling. Your post has sparked my interested again but it is complicated. I do think that if an accomplished astrologer could add INTP to their interpretations it would help with readings. In the interpretations I've had from professionals, they seem to get wrapped up the Aries stellium and Moon in Sag and miss how strongly introverted I am. Or perhaps a very good astrologer doesn't need this information.
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

I have consistently tested as an INTJ no matter when I have taken the test.

Introversion (I) - Saturn on the ascendant. Nuff said.
Intuition (N) - Moon on the IC.
Thinking (T) - Mercury should show this. It's closest aspect is a square to Mars, it's in a trine with Saturn and in a mutual reception relationship with my Virgo Sun, which I'm thinking also indicates T.
Judging (J) - Virgo Sun and I suspect that Saturn on the ascendant also has something to do with this.

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I've taken the test several times but have seen that over the years I've moved closer to the center on T and P which seems to be a good thing.
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

INFP

I = pisces rising; sun/merc in the 12th; many planets in 12th/first, saturn opp chiron sq. asc
N = aqua merc in 12th
F = moon sq. neptune, moon in aries, pisces asc/12th house energy
P = strong pisces / aries energy
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

Oh, I love the Myers-Briggs test. I consistently get INTP, although I think there's an ENTP/ENTJ lurking somewhere in my subconscious.
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

I'm an ENTP but have no idea how to correspond it to my chart to know if it is in fact accurate? Help please? I find this very interesting!!!!
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

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So --- whoever originated this thread, or whoever shares a deep interest in the topic
Should take the trouble to define all 8 terms that form the basis of the personality typings
Introvert/Extraverted. This seems to deal with how one approaches social relationships and their "sphere" of interest. To me, this is going to involve Moon, retrograde planets, harsh aspects to Saturn, Jupiter placement, feminine signs, the placement of planets in the quadrants/hemispheres, and so on. This may show someone who derives energy from others or has it drained from them, who likes crowds vs. cannot stand them, would rather stay behind the scenes than in the spotlight, who is more interested in their "private world" than the world at large.

Sensing/Intuition. This is about how one responds to the environment. To me, it's going to show up in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The signs I'd associate with sensing are Taurus, Aries and Virgo, Venus and Mars, because sensing is about taking a fact as a fact, interested in the immediate and tangible, favors empiricism. Intuition is about extrapolation, of taking the "big picture" over the details and seeing between the lines, of adding additional meanings. It favors deduction. I'd associate with it Moon, Neptune, Uranus and Pluto, Aquarius, Pisces, Cancer and Scorpio. For intuition I'd associate the IC, 8th and 12th houses.

Thinking/Feeling. This one is a bit more obvious. Mercury and Moon as significators, and of course the signs they rule. I'd also but Aquarius/Uranus in the thinking category being higher octave of Mercury. Air and Earth I'd also associate with thinking while fire and water with feeling.

Perceiving/Judging. It is perhaps most clear that Saturn and Mars is showing up for Judging personalities. Judging is about order of chaos, justice over mercy, structure vs. nonstructured, action vs. inaction. I'd think Judging would also be associated with fixed and cardinal signs while perceiving is mutable. Perceiving I'd also identify with Mercury, Gemini and Libra because of the more inquisitive or waffling nature over decisive nature.

At least, that's for starters.

Test some?

I get either INTP or INFP depending on the day. Sometimes I'll get INTJ, so the only consistent ones are Introverted and Intuition.

Introverted - 6 retrograde planets including Mercury, Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars and Jupiter in feminine signs, Saturn opposing Ascendent and square Venus.

Intuition - Moon square Pluto, Mars in 8th house, Neptune trine Virgo Venus, Jupiter in Pisces square Uranus, Mercury square Pluto

The flopping between Feeling and Thinking can probably be explained by Moon/Mercury opposition most clearly.

Usually perceiving, but sometimes judging, might be showing because I have a very strong Mercury placement in a fixed sign, but Gemini ASC, Saturn rules my Moon and Mars, but in opposition to Mercury, creates a lot of second guessing that making the "judging" less pronounced. Retrograde Mars might also be affecting things. Not quite sure about this one. However, getting older I'm becoming more decisive.
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

I test as INFJ although I do not come across as introverted to others I think I am. I am new to astrology and do not have the experience to correctly assign anything from my chart to INFJ although my chart does show a high level of intuition which corresponds with INFJ profile.

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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

INFJ here too.

I took the test originally back in 2008 and looking at notes I had written back then I spoke about being a different type, but I didn't note what type I was previously, only that I was an INFJ at the time of taking the test. I think it may have been either INFP or INTJ. as i'm sure I have always been IN. edit; just found results for 2012 where I came out as INFP.

so taking the test today and the results come up as;
You have distinct preference of Introversion over Extraversion (72%)
You have moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (38%)
You have slight preference of Feeling over Thinking (12%)
You have slight preference of Judging over Perceiving (22%)

here is my chart for astrological reference and comparison;
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...pictureid=1813

I think for me it does show how much neptune is an influence along with having all my planets on the bottom half of my chart with my chart ruler being in cancer. because normally I think we would associate a triple gemini with a leo moon as being a lot more extroverted.
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Re: The Astrology of Myers-Briggs Personality Types

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I'm an ENTP.

This is my attempt at it lol

Extrovert: Leo Rising, Aries Moon, Mercury in Libra, Jupiter conjuct midheaven??
Intuitive: Mercury in fourth,Scorpio Sun in fourth
Thinking: Moon in 9th, Mars in 3rd?
Perceiving: Mercury Opp Jupiter??
ENTP here as well, or at least that's what I kept getting when taking the online tests

Extrovert: Leo Rising, Mars in Aries, Sun in Sag, Jupiter in the 10th, and maybe Sun Conjunct Mercury?
Intuitive: Sun in the fourth here as well, Moon in Scorpio in the fourth
Thinking: Mars in the 9th, South Node in Virgo??
Perceiving: I have Moon Opp Jupiter, but it might also be from my Mars in Aries squared by Neptune and Saturn in Cap, so instead of deciding to do stuff (judge), I end up just gathering info on a matter (perceive) and not doing much else
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I am an INFP,the idealist,the mediator.Weird enough I have a strong SIXTH RAY (the Seven Rays of God,and Chakras) which also resonate with this type of personality.

Both of INFP and the sixth ray resonate with the Neptune archtype. I have Sun in Virgo,Moon in Saggitarius,Asc in Leo.Neptune makes a minor aspect to my Sun and Moon.Neptune square my mars and node.conjunct moon and jupiter by antiscia
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ENTP here as well, or at least that's what I kept getting when taking the online tests

Extrovert: Leo Rising, Mars in Aries, Sun in Sag, Jupiter in the 10th, and maybe Sun Conjunct Mercury?
Intuitive: Sun in the fourth here as well, Moon in Scorpio in the fourth
Thinking: Mars in the 9th, South Node in Virgo??
Perceiving: I have Moon Opp Jupiter, but it might also be from my Mars in Aries squared by Neptune and Saturn in Cap, so instead of deciding to do stuff (judge), I end up just gathering info on a matter (perceive) and not doing much else
I'm seeing a trend here with Leo risings

Extrovert: Leo Rising, Gemini Sun & Gemini Venus in 11th, Taurus Mars & Taurus Mercury in 10th
Intuitive:Neptune and Uranus trine Mercury, Neptune and Uranus trine Mars, Pluto in 4th
Thinking: Moon in Taurus in 9th, Mercury opposite Pluto, Absence of planets in water signs, Unaspected Jupiter
Perceiving: Geminian influences, Uranus as dominant planet, Mars at critical degree

(Leo Rising, 11th and 10th house placements, lots of Uranus + Neptune aspects and Gemini energy = ENTP )
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I'm seeing a trend here with Leo risings

Extrovert: Leo Rising, Gemini Sun & Gemini Venus in 11th, Taurus Mars & Taurus Mercury in 10th
Intuitive:Neptune and Uranus trine Mercury, Neptune and Uranus trine Mars, Pluto in 4th
Thinking: Moon in Taurus in 9th, Mercury opposite Pluto, Absence of planets in water signs, Unaspected Jupiter
Perceiving: Geminian influences, Uranus as dominant planet, Mars at critical degree

(Leo Rising, 11th and 10th house placements, lots of Uranus + Neptune aspects and Gemini energy = ENTP )
I am leo rising but no entp
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Results I remember getting from MBTI tests:

INTJ, INTP, INFJ, ISFP, ISTP, ISTJ.

The only thing Myers Briggs has been consistent about for me is that I am an introvert... And I did not need a test to tell me that. It all seems kind of silly to me.

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INFP

Introvert:

sun square moon-first quarter moon- means a strong moon which leads to an introvert person.

Most of my planet are in the lower section of my birth chart which leads to an introvert person.
intuitive:


I have the mercury/jupiter/moon aspects which lead to a strong intuition. We have three planets that linked to intelligence and intuition linked together

Strong neptune in my chart. Making minor aspect to my sun and moon. Conjunct moon and jupiter by antiscia. Square my mars and node. Square my sun/moon midpoint


Feeling:


I have a strong moon in my chart. Moon conjunct jupiter and also neptune/uranus by antiscia. The moon is waxing which means the moon is strong. moon conjunct pluto.
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I am leo rising but no entp
Are you extroverted (in mbti terms) though? I think the coincidental leo rising that several entps reported having just helps to push us over to the 'extroverted' side of the scale, and not determine what type we are.
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INTP is my most consistent result, but for an introvert, I'm kind of extroverted (or at least outspoken and talkative, I'm wary of new people) and for a thinker, I'm very very emotional. I've gotten INFP, and I've gotten ENTP but I've never gotten ENFP or anything with a J or an S.

While Myers-Briggs might be better at summarizing your personality, I like astrology a lot better because it's more complex and does a much better job at highlighting the contradictions in your personality. The other thing about Myers-Briggs that bothers me is no one can be 100% objective about themselves. Astrology kind of forces you to look at yourself objectively.

As for what aspects in my chart contribute to this...

Introversion -
1. I have three planets in retrograde; Mercury, Venus and Saturn. I think Mercury and Venus contribute more to my introversion than Saturn, however, being more socially-orientated planets. Mercury is my chart ruler and Venus is the ruler of my sun.
2. Another big factor is my stellium in the 6th house, Scorpio, which includes my retrograde Venus.
3. My moon is in the 12th house, Taurus, and opposite Venus, which might be a factor. Lilith is placed here too, as well as my south node (which is conjunct the moon... my north node is actually conjunct Venus)
4. I'm a water dominant.

Intuition -

1. My Libra Sun is definitely a factor. Libras are usually very conceptual thinkers, focused on abstract ideals like balance, justice, etc. Air Ascendant, Air Midheaven. Are grand trines exclusive to planets because if they can include angles, I'm pretty sure I have a grand air trine?
2. Sun/Mercury in the 5th square Uranus/Neptune conjunction. I very much identify with these aspects especially the Uranus ones (tighter orb than the Neptune). Moon is trine Neptune, if that means anything (I've noticed trines aren't as strong as 'hard aspects').
3. Moon in the 12th/Scorpio stellium/water dominant
4. Venus conjunct Jupiter (ruler of Descendant), love of philosophy?
5. Mercury in retrograde may contribute to this too?

I don't normally consider myself to be a particularly 'intuitive' person (although I've gotten a lot better as I've gotten older and I've realized there were times when I was right but didn't trust myself enough). As a Libra, I don't like jumping to conclusions, which is what I feel like you're doing when you claim to know something without reason or explanation (even if it's not something you can physically or scientifically prove, or even if it's not something that's conscious to you...there has to be I]some [/I]reason!), but the Myers-Briggs version of "intuitive" is different. The Myers-Briggs version of "intuitive" refers to someone whose more idea-orientated, and focused on the big picture. Intuition here doesn't mean feeling as opposed to thinking, which is what I always thought it meant. It refers to a more symbolic thinking, reading between the lines and coming up with new ideas as opposed to literal thinking.

I've been called inattentive but I'm only inattentive when listening to technical stuff. I'm never inattentive when it comes to things that relate to humanity or the psyche. I'm more interested in social sciences than hard sciences.

Thinking -
1. Gemini Ascendent
2. Mercury Dominant
3. Libra Sun+Mercury/Taurus moon
4. 6th house stellium (very analytical)

I'm very slow to come to a decision and even though I'm very emotional, I always strive to be objective as possible. I try to consider all factors of a situation, both my heart, my head, all the facts and all the feelings, everything and because of this, I overthink.

I do have strong feelings that cause me to act impulsive sometimes but relating to intuition, I try not to have knee-jerk reactions or prejudices and when I do, I try to think, "why?"

I question everything, both others and myself.

Perceiving -
1. Gemini Ascendant, definitely. I often appear to be very scatter-brained.
2. Libra Sun/Mercury in the 5th house
3. Libra Sun/Mercury square Uranus/Neptune... again...this might actually be the most important factor. I work in spurts. I work when I feel like it.
4. Saturn in Pisces...most of the J/P questions on the Myers-Briggs test revolve around work, and Saturn relates to work. Pisces is a weird sign for Saturn to be in. Saturn in retrograde may be a factor here as well.
5. Contrary to popular belief, I think Venus conjunct Jupiter in the 6th house might be a factor here. I'm sort of lazy and only feel like working when my heart is in it (venus), I need a job that I can enjoy and I tend to be too busy thinking about the bigger picture to focus on day to day tasks (jupiter)

I think mental illness is a factor in this last one, too. Regardless of my "personality", it's difficult for me to follow a strict schedule.

If I really want something, I force myself too, but it's harder for me than it is for others.

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INTP is my most consistent result, but for an introvert, I'm kind of extroverted (or at least outspoken and talkative, I'm wary of new people) and for a thinker, I'm very very emotional. I've gotten INFP, and I've gotten ENTP but I've never gotten ENFP or anything with a J or an S.

While Myers-Briggs might be better at summarizing your personality, I like astrology a lot better because it's more complex and does a much better job at highlighting the contradictions in your personality. The other thing about Myers-Briggs that bothers me is no one can be 100% objective about themselves. Astrology kind of forces you to look at yourself objectively.

As for what aspects in my chart contribute to this...

Introversion -
1. I have three planets in retrograde; Mercury, Venus and Saturn. I think Mercury and Venus contribute more to my introversion than Saturn, however, being more socially-orientated planets. Mercury is my chart ruler and Venus is the ruler of my sun.
2. Another big factor is my stellium in the 6th house, Scorpio, which includes my retrograde Venus.
3. My moon is in the 12th house, Taurus, and opposite Venus, which might be a factor. Lilith is placed here too, as well as my south node (which is conjunct the moon... my north node is actually conjunct Venus)
4. I'm a water dominant.

Intuition -

1. My Libra Sun is definitely a factor. Libras are usually very conceptual thinkers, focused on abstract ideals like balance, justice, etc. Air Ascendant, Air Midheaven. Are grand trines exclusive to planets because if they can include angles, I'm pretty sure I have a grand air trine?
2. Sun/Mercury in the 5th square Uranus/Neptune conjunction. I very much identify with these aspects especially the Uranus ones (tighter orb than the Neptune). Moon is trine Neptune, if that means anything (I've noticed trines aren't as strong as 'hard aspects').
3. Moon in the 12th/Scorpio stellium/water dominant
4. Venus conjunct Jupiter (ruler of Descendant), love of philosophy?
5. Mercury in retrograde may contribute to this too?

I don't normally consider myself to be a particularly 'intuitive' person (although I've gotten a lot better as I've gotten older and I've realized there were times when I was right but didn't trust myself enough). As a Libra, I don't like jumping to conclusions, which is what I feel like you're doing when you claim to know something without reason or explanation (even if it's not something you can physically or scientifically prove, or even if it's not something that's conscious to you...there has to be I]some [/I]reason!), but the Myers-Briggs version of "intuitive" is different. The Myers-Briggs version of "intuitive" refers to someone whose more idea-orientated, and focused on the big picture. Intuition here doesn't mean feeling as opposed to thinking, which is what I always thought it meant. It refers to a more symbolic thinking, reading between the lines and coming up with new ideas as opposed to literal thinking.

I've been called inattentive but I'm only inattentive when listening to technical stuff. I'm never inattentive when it comes to things that relate to humanity or the psyche. I'm more interested in social sciences than hard sciences.

Thinking -
1. Gemini Ascendent
2. Mercury Dominant
3. Libra Sun+Mercury/Taurus moon
4. 6th house stellium (very analytical)

I'm very slow to come to a decision and even though I'm very emotional, I always strive to be objective as possible. I try to consider all factors of a situation, both my heart, my head, all the facts and all the feelings, everything and because of this, I overthink.

I do have strong feelings that cause me to act impulsive sometimes but relating to intuition, I try not to have knee-jerk reactions or prejudices and when I do, I try to think, "why?"

I question everything, both others and myself.

Perceiving -
1. Gemini Ascendant, definitely. I often appear to be very scatter-brained.
2. Libra Sun/Mercury in the 5th house
3. Libra Sun/Mercury square Uranus/Neptune... again
4. Saturn in Pisces...most of the J/P questions on the Myers-Briggs test revolve around work, and Saturn relates to work. Pisces is a weird sign for Saturn to be in. Saturn in retrograde may be a factor here as well.
5. Contrary to popular belief, I think Venus conjunct Jupiter in the 6th house might be a factor here. I'm sort of lazy and only feel like working when my heart is in it (venus), I need a job that I can enjoy and I tend to be too busy thinking about the bigger picture to focus on day to day tasks (jupiter)

I think mental illness is a factor in this last one, too. Regardless of my "personality", it's difficult for me to follow a strict schedule.
I thought you were an infp when i was reading your post.
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Are you extroverted (in mbti terms) though? I think the coincidental leo rising that several entps reported having just helps to push us over to the 'extroverted' side of the scale, and not determine what type we are.
No I am introvert. INFP
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