Starsareround
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I’m wondering what people think about Uranus in H3. Ive read a lot of different things, from problems with siblings to madness to creative genius...
No. Gemini Mercury quintiles Mars in Virgo.@Gemini888
Are your mercury and mars both sitting together in the same sign?
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No. Gemini Mercury quintiles Mars in Virgo.
Saturn conjunct Pluto
@Starsarearound regarding your charts...
The first person's Mars is very badly aspected. Square Sun and Mercury. I think this indicates motor skill problems. He is pretty clumsy and crude. Moon in Aries and in 5H also manages to retain the childlike quality. But he has a good amount of 11H for brain capacity.
And the second person, a classic case of Saturn square Mercury and Sun. That, and 6H Saturn give him some practicality to solve problems. He also has a loaded 6H.
You are spot on with the first chart! He may be able to develop AI but he can’t change a light bulb. Like I said I know him well so I feel able to tease him on a astrology forum
Second chart is my love. I hugely admire his determination and problem solving. He admires my abstract thought. Or whatever my thought style is. But his focus and practicality is impressive. He’s pretty young yet leads a team of engineers who all have more experience than him and they trust his knowledge and authority.
Second person: Mars conj Mercury in Leo and opposite Jupiter. I'm not surprised that he ends up being in an authority role. Mercury opposite Jupiter indicates an ability to inspire faith to others, like a preacher. Mars opposite Jupiter gives tremendous faith in action. He appears very confident to his colleague and they trust him. Looks like a typical Fire-type intelligence.
The stereotyped "genius who can't type his shoe" may lend itself to the fact that the genius is better at working on abstract concept than things that require motor skills. The first person's chart is devoid of earth, meaning lacking practicality. He is better working as an "idea guy" than someone who actually gets his hands dirty. I hope with his Saturn conj MC in Leo, he has enough authority to get people to work on things in the large scheme that he can't do.
My Mars squares make me quite clumsy too, and for a long time I thought it was an indication of stupidity. Now I know there is a difference.
Wish I have this within Close Orb.
Mine is Exalted Saturn Conjunct Pluto Square Mercury.
Mercury Conjunct with bad *** Rahu/NN.
I''m only emotional rather than rational or intelligent.
In layman's terms I'm a Fool in Real/Practical World.
Wish I have this within Close Orb.
Mine is Exalted Saturn Conjunct Pluto Square Mercury.
Mercury Conjunct with bad *** Rahu/NN.
I''m only emotional rather than rational or intelligent.
In layman's terms I'm a Fool in Real/Practical World.[/QUOTE
Other things I must add though:
I've been studying personality, astrology, and how it might relate to IQ and other personality traits
Now this is a generalization so I'd do my own research. I've been focused on the mbti and the ennegram specifically.
When it comes to intelligence. INTP, INTJ, INFP, INFJ were the most gifted.
INTP is related to the aquarius/gemini archetype. INTJ is related to the aquarius/virgo archetype, INFP is the pisces/scorpio archetype, and INFJ is the cancer/pisces archetype-this is related to intelligence/IQ/giftedness. I've seen such patterns arising with three peer scholared articles. With one exception to the rule being apparently ENFPs outperform INFPs in terms of giftedness when it comes to females.
But also keep in mind, that the INFPs and INFJs sometimes don't do too well when it comes how much money they make compared to other types especially INFPs
So you can see water and air and their flowy nature usually overrepresent the "IQ" because IQ essentially represents the ability to recognize patterns, see things from a different perspective (visiospatially) and think outside of the box and engage in logically solving the problem and eliminating possible answers in a standardized test. Water has the first two covered, air (most particularly gemini and aquarius as gemini is abstract because of its mutability and aquarius is abstract because of its ruler) has all the talents.
Einstein also said that much of intelligence is imagination and air and water both have that. Phlagmetic is also suppoosedly spiritual and wise and that's correlated with Brahmins, Air element is associated with vhaisiyas (excuse my spelling) which are the merchants that are equally if not even more intelligent than the brahmins. But the brahmins job in ancient india was only to learn, perceive, and contemplate and come up with insightful theories.
Another thing I'd like to add on imagination is that much of INFs tend to be prevelent amongst people who claim they daydream alot and that's associated with a thicker dorsolateral prefrontal cortex which is also associated with working memory(and also having more to work with and being inventive with working memory ) as well. Now there's more to intelligence than just an imagination as Einstein also had a parietal lobe that was bigger than the average human parietal lobe.
Okay I'm going on a tangent. But what I'm trying to say here is that some inherent ability to invent and think outside of the box are within those that in general (which is a major part of IQ) is inherent in those whose signs are metaphorically consistent with a flowy element that can't be contained. You can't grasp water or air. Now this brings me to my final point, just like the phlagmetic is pictured to be a lame drunk, not all intelligence is fostered and IQ doesn't always equate to success. Openness to experience correlates with IQ, openness to experience and conscioentiousness correlates with success.
Now to my final point. There needs to be a thirst for knowledge. I do think learning and even a beneficial type of thinking can be fostered, and advanced almost exponentially. But that's where environment, and internal agency/motivation comes to play and you can assess things like that through ennegram. Type 5 would probably be highest in IQ scores as they are the researchers that like to observe.
I hope this was insightful.
I wonder how Mercury/Sun in other signs create other types of intelligence.
My 3H and 9H is empty. I only have Gemini and Sag on the cusps.
@love-thinking
If I consider my Sidereal Zodiac Chart then I found my Gemini Archetype. Not too many benefics but balance.
Venus, Moon, Rahu and Mercury in Gemini in 2nd/3rd House (depends on house system).
So all of my personal planets have to go to workI don’t have enough practice with people and their charts to say for sure, but I tend to associate mutable energy with breadth of knowledge and a wide view, cardinal with actionable knowledge, and fixed with specialized mastery. Then air with quickness and verbal ability, water with psychic and emotional understanding, fire with intuition and creativity, and earth with practical and sensory ability.
I think sun and Mercury placements will tell the most about how a person thinks and communicates, but you would need to look at moon, Mars, and Venus to see other types of intelligence more clearly.
I don’t have enough practice with people and their charts to say for sure, but I tend to associate mutable energy with breadth of knowledge and a wide view, cardinal with actionable knowledge, and fixed with specialized mastery. Then air with quickness and verbal ability, water with psychic and emotional understanding, fire with intuition and creativity, and earth with practical and sensory ability.
I’m wondering what people think about Uranus in H3. Ive read a lot of different things, from problems with siblings to madness to creative genius...
I'm a Gemini. My verbal intelligence is much higher than my spatial intelligence. My ascendant is in Pisces and Moon is in Sagittarius. I did best in art and English classes in high school and worst in gym.
I struggled a lot in traditional learning settings. I was diagnosed with a learning disability and giftedness, but school made it seem more like a curse. My brain basically has too much in some of its buckets and not enough in others.
I love books and reading. I know about a lot of topics. But I'm also disorganized and easily overwhelmed in overstimulating environments. Kids thought I was a nerd and easy to pick on. Teachers thought I was lazy. There have been points where I've been very lonely and depressed.
I come across often as indifferent to people but it's not shyness or elitism. I really just find people emotionally draining and prefer mostly being by myself. I'm actually very passionate about making sure that people are kind and understanding to those whose minds work differently whether that be LGBT people, people with disabilities, or people with mental illness. My brain is different from other people's but it isn't better or worse. Just more lopsided and eccentric.
In the end what really matters is what I do with my brain, not the labels that are attached to it. The labels just helped educators figure out that I wasn't just being difficult after all.
I think there are some correspondences between my chart and my cognitive strengths and weaknesses, but a lot of it is genetic and seen to some extent in the rest of my family. The air signs in my family are better at putting themselves into words than the fire signs in my family though.