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hi everyone i have some questions regarding this chart, since the ascendant is in libra here, this means that i am represented by venus. however, uranus is in taurus in the 7th house, so would this mean that the quesited is also represented by venus? and what would this mean
but what about taurus? its in the 7th house, and mars is in the 7th, and the quesited would be represented by L7 right? im confused bc the website says taurus is in the 7th house
but what about taurus? its in the 7th house, and mars is in the 7th, and the quesited would be represented by L7 right? im confused bc the website says taurus is in the 7th house
thank you jozi i understand it now, i was really confused at first. my question was if i would reconcile with someone. so this would mean that they are mars in scorpio, and i am venus in capricorn. im pretty sure there is reception between the planets - mars is sextile venus (applying), but mars is in venus detriment? however mars is also in the first house..
The Venus sextile Mars aspect starts to separate before it can perfect so it doesn't happen unfortunately.
thank you jozi i understand it now, i was really confused at first. so this would mean that they are mars in scorpio, and i am venus in capricorn. mars is sextile venus (applying), but mars is in venus detriment? while venus is mars exaltion.. would this not mean the person in question hates me? however mars is also in the first house..? would this mean that they are in my 12th? also i asked if we would communicate again
yes i just saw generally, do u think that the planet positions means that this person dislikes me, or would it mean that i dislike them?
its not about this chart specifically im new to horary and i still dont know a lot about reception, or what it exactly means if the planet of the quesited is in the sign which is the detriment or exaltion of the querents planet,
If a planet is in detriment, it means that a planet is under a spell of the lord of the sign.
Example
Mars in cancer - it doesnt perform well because Moon is a ruler of cancer.
So you need to look at the Moon to see if it can hold any strength.
Imagine a drunken man(mars) leaning on a pole (Moon).
Pole can do one of two things: either support a drunken man or bend / break.
If Moon is strong(in its own sign or exalted even triplicity + 1 minor dignity), the pole will stand. Otherwise if will bend and break.
If a planet is in exalt - Venus in capricorn .. Venus exalts Mars (she thinks mars is Apollo), but mars in libra (venus and mars can probably work together but they must have an applying aspect eventhough it is a square)
Venuus is in capricorn and mars is in aries - there is an applying square - this WILL NOT work. because Mars doesnt give a rat's azz about venus.
Venus in capricon and mars in cancer - applying opposition - this DOES NOT work either because Mars is mute + weak so it has no power to act.
Venus in capricorn sextiles Mars in scorpio - might not work either BUT YOU need to look at the minor dignities beacause scorpio holds venus at 20and 21 degress scorpio. Those 2 degrees work .. everything else - meh it might fail
venus in capricorn sextiles mars in pisces - this could work because there is strong reception between the two. exalt and planet in the domain
trines are easier they are harmonic
then you need to look at the houses where the planets are - angular on top - most likely will make an initiative
Cadent - might not but it could be just accidental debility or describe the location of the person involved.
Angular most likely to make a move but then I would not take it lightly if appling planet lord of asce sitting in 1st house applying to lord of 7th (if relationship chart), that means that the querent (most likely) is in his/her own interests.. the reverse logic applies to if the queested is in 7th house and applying to the slower planet
Then you need to read up about dexter and sinister aspects.
If there is a sinister aspect, then you will not see striaght forward action but more as in subtle or indirect. Think of Trojan horse analogy - the horse was towed inside of the town
vs
Dexter - it is like a straight forward move. Shooting a fireball cannons into the wall of the castle
Wow. Thank you Tikana! I’m learning from this thread too.
So, if Mars (7th H Ruler) is in the 1st H in Scorpio and Venus (1st H Ruler) is in the 3rd H in Cappy, then by your description, Mars is Venus’ main concern (in Venus’ 1st H). He feels great (Scorpio is domicile + triplicity for Mars). He has the ability to make moves, take initiative (because he’s in an angular H).
Venus on the other hand is weak (she is peregrine - no essential Dignity in Capricorn). She has no strength. In a cadent house (3rd) she has no power to make a move either. And in the H of communication, she is thinking of reaching out. But she’s reconsidering and eventually decided against reaching out to him (she had been the one applying to Mars but is getting ready to go RX so has been slowing down and eventually turns in the opposite direction).
Through it all, Venus is in Mars’ sign of exaltation. According to Tikana’s explanation, that means Venus thinks well of Mars. The same cannot be said of Mars who is only good to himself (Venus is in detriment in Scorpio). [Thanks for being crystal clear on reception, Tikana!]
Venus is in the H of overthinking too. That’s got to be hard on Venus. Where Mars is concerned, Venus isn’t doing so good. I’d say Venus should get herself right and forget Mars. This is a bummer of a situation to be in. I’m sorry about that.
Good luck, Neptune 🤗
U must have a perfecting aspect
Or Translatiin of light or collection of light. Then worry about a reception
thank you for explaining it! ur posts on here are genuinely helping me learn horary. a collection of light would be for example if another planet applied to both venus and mars in this case? is this present in the chart
i am currently reading about sinister aspects right now if i understood it correctly that means that venus is casting a sinister sextile to mars in the chart i posted
thank you for the explanation jozi! i wish i could cast another chart for this situation because i have so many mixed feelings about it there is one thing i have a question about, i dont know if i am confused please correct me if i am but if planet A is in planet B sign of exaltion, would this not mean that planet B is positive towards planet A? and if planet B is in planet A sign of detriment, wouldnt this mean planet A dislikes planet B? or that planet B would bring something negative to planet A in general? x
i thought one planet approaching the other was enough
its not about this chart specifically im curious about the detriment/exaltion part, we can use venus/mars in the chart i posted as an example ignoring that theyre not perfecting
i mean if we just use venus cap sextiling mars scorp, ignoring that the aspect wont happen, what does it mean for venus to be in the sign of mars exaltion but mars being in the sign of venus detriment
i am referring to this part in jozis post
Through it all, Venus is in Mars’ sign of exaltation. According to Tikana’s explanation, that means Venus thinks well of Mars. The same cannot be said of Mars who is only good to himself (Venus is in detriment in Scorpio).
what i mean is that i thought if venus is in mars sign of exaltion, this would actually mean that mars likes/is positive to venus, but bc mars is in venus sign of detriment, this means that mars has some kind of negative impact ?