Hi all. This is a strange request, I know, and this is also rather long so my apologies .... but I have been locked in the mother of all battles of will with a man who I can honestly say is the first man I've ever known who I can't read, can't 'beat' and love utterly.
We are both extreme individualists and wilful and unconventional. I'm going to list a whole pile of things below regarding my chart, his, our Pluto aspects etc. We have both literally transformed since meeting each other, the intensity is so fierce that I have had insomnia for a year, have lost 2 stone in weight, am deeply obsessed (waves of love/lust and physical clenching of my heart - extraordinary) and we STILL can barely look at each other or converse at all. It's getting easier now but I am deeply fascinated by this encounter - it has literally changed my character and my life on the absolute base level.
Me
Libra Sun/Mercury/Venus/Uranus & Aries Rising
Mars in 10th House
Sun conjunct Venus
Sun conjunct Pluto
Sun conjunct Mercury
Sun conjunct Uranus
Sun trine Mars
Sun trine MC
Sun trine North Node
Moon conjunct Mars
Mercury conjunct Pluto
Mars conjunct Ascendant
Venus trine Mars
Venus conjunct Uranus
Mars trine Uranus
Sun conjunct Lilith
Venus conjunct Lilith
Uranus conjunct Lilith
Mars trine Lilith
North Node trine Lilith
Chiron opposite Lilith
Him
Scorpio - Sun/Mercury/Mars/Uranus/North Node / Capricorn Ascendant?
Mars in 1st House
Sun conjunct Mars
Sun conjunct Mercury
Sun conjunct Uranus
Sun conjunct North Node
Mars opposite Saturn
Venus conjunct Neptune
Mercury conjunct Uranus
Mercury conjunct North Node
Uranus conjunct North Node
His Sun/Mercury/Mars in my 7th House & Venus in 8th House
My Sun/Pluto in his 8th House
Pluto connections – all tight orbs
My planets to his Pluto:
Sun conjunct Pluto
Venus conjunct Pluto
Mars trine Pluto
Jupiter septile Pluto
Uranus conjunct Pluto
North Node trine Pluto
South Node sextile Pluto
Vertex sextile Pluto
Chiron opposite Pluto
Part of Fortune sextile Pluto
Lilith conjunct Pluto
and...
Juno trine Lilith
Venus sextile Lilith
Neptune sextile Lilith
Moon trine Juno
His planets to my Pluto:
Sun semiquintile Pluto (orb < 1)
Moon trine Pluto (orb < 1)
Mercury semisextile Pluto (tight)
Mars semisquare Pluto (tight orb)
Venus quintile Pluto
Jupiter trine Pluto (tight)
Saturn semisquare Pluto (tight orb)
Neptune quintile Pluto
Chiron inconjunct Pluto
Midpoint
His Pluto = My Sun/Venus (tight)
His planets to mine:
Saturn sextile Venus (tight)
Saturn opposite North Node - karmic?
Saturn conjunct South Node
Saturn trine Vertex
Saturn trine Chiron
Chiron conjunct Ascendant
Venus sextile Sun
Venus sextile Mars
Venus sextile Neptune
Venus sextile North Node
Venus trine South Node
Venus conjunct Vertex
Venus trine Chiron
Venus square Juno
Venus conjunct Part of Fortune
Venus sextile Lilith
Neptune conjunct Vertex
Our biggest problem - two very tight aspects - his Saturn opposite my Mars / Mars square Mars. Our relationship problems perfectly correspond with these two aspects (what I've read) but SURELY the enormous number of positive and powerful aspects should win the day???
Ours is a karmic meeting - absolutely no doubt. I guess what I want is some advice/feedback on whether this level of Pluto influence is rare? Also, I'd like some help because I really don't think I can surrender here - it goes against every fibre of my being and my principles (no matter how fiercely I love him) - so it's like I'm not willing to surrender but I believe he is actually INCAPABLE of surrendering - and the pain just gets worse and worse.
I am not an average Libran with such a powerful dose of both Mars and Pluto in my chart and no water whatsoever. He is my equal - which is what I've sought all my life and I have always foregone relationships until now as I INSIST on an equal. I'm terrified, though, that we're TOO equally matched so we will remain in this agonising impasse - this 'irresistible force meets immoveable object' nightmare that has already gone on for 11 months and is seriously threatening my sanity - albeit whilst making me stronger and better and more mature. It’s an incredible ride – that’s all I can say. This nearly destroyed me – literally – and that’s before we have even become physically intimate. I’m thinking I’d have to be nigh-on suicidal to get involved with him – but the bond is so fierce that it feels like the world itself is pulling us together.
Any advice, information, assistance would be most sincerely appreciated. I’m at a loss of what to do.
We are both extreme individualists and wilful and unconventional. I'm going to list a whole pile of things below regarding my chart, his, our Pluto aspects etc. We have both literally transformed since meeting each other, the intensity is so fierce that I have had insomnia for a year, have lost 2 stone in weight, am deeply obsessed (waves of love/lust and physical clenching of my heart - extraordinary) and we STILL can barely look at each other or converse at all. It's getting easier now but I am deeply fascinated by this encounter - it has literally changed my character and my life on the absolute base level.
Me
Libra Sun/Mercury/Venus/Uranus & Aries Rising
Mars in 10th House
Sun conjunct Venus
Sun conjunct Pluto
Sun conjunct Mercury
Sun conjunct Uranus
Sun trine Mars
Sun trine MC
Sun trine North Node
Moon conjunct Mars
Mercury conjunct Pluto
Mars conjunct Ascendant
Venus trine Mars
Venus conjunct Uranus
Mars trine Uranus
Sun conjunct Lilith
Venus conjunct Lilith
Uranus conjunct Lilith
Mars trine Lilith
North Node trine Lilith
Chiron opposite Lilith
Him
Scorpio - Sun/Mercury/Mars/Uranus/North Node / Capricorn Ascendant?
Mars in 1st House
Sun conjunct Mars
Sun conjunct Mercury
Sun conjunct Uranus
Sun conjunct North Node
Mars opposite Saturn
Venus conjunct Neptune
Mercury conjunct Uranus
Mercury conjunct North Node
Uranus conjunct North Node
His Sun/Mercury/Mars in my 7th House & Venus in 8th House
My Sun/Pluto in his 8th House
Pluto connections – all tight orbs
My planets to his Pluto:
Sun conjunct Pluto
Venus conjunct Pluto
Mars trine Pluto
Jupiter septile Pluto
Uranus conjunct Pluto
North Node trine Pluto
South Node sextile Pluto
Vertex sextile Pluto
Chiron opposite Pluto
Part of Fortune sextile Pluto
Lilith conjunct Pluto
and...
Juno trine Lilith
Venus sextile Lilith
Neptune sextile Lilith
Moon trine Juno
His planets to my Pluto:
Sun semiquintile Pluto (orb < 1)
Moon trine Pluto (orb < 1)
Mercury semisextile Pluto (tight)
Mars semisquare Pluto (tight orb)
Venus quintile Pluto
Jupiter trine Pluto (tight)
Saturn semisquare Pluto (tight orb)
Neptune quintile Pluto
Chiron inconjunct Pluto
Midpoint
His Pluto = My Sun/Venus (tight)
His planets to mine:
Saturn sextile Venus (tight)
Saturn opposite North Node - karmic?
Saturn conjunct South Node
Saturn trine Vertex
Saturn trine Chiron
Chiron conjunct Ascendant
Venus sextile Sun
Venus sextile Mars
Venus sextile Neptune
Venus sextile North Node
Venus trine South Node
Venus conjunct Vertex
Venus trine Chiron
Venus square Juno
Venus conjunct Part of Fortune
Venus sextile Lilith
Neptune conjunct Vertex
Our biggest problem - two very tight aspects - his Saturn opposite my Mars / Mars square Mars. Our relationship problems perfectly correspond with these two aspects (what I've read) but SURELY the enormous number of positive and powerful aspects should win the day???
Ours is a karmic meeting - absolutely no doubt. I guess what I want is some advice/feedback on whether this level of Pluto influence is rare? Also, I'd like some help because I really don't think I can surrender here - it goes against every fibre of my being and my principles (no matter how fiercely I love him) - so it's like I'm not willing to surrender but I believe he is actually INCAPABLE of surrendering - and the pain just gets worse and worse.
I am not an average Libran with such a powerful dose of both Mars and Pluto in my chart and no water whatsoever. He is my equal - which is what I've sought all my life and I have always foregone relationships until now as I INSIST on an equal. I'm terrified, though, that we're TOO equally matched so we will remain in this agonising impasse - this 'irresistible force meets immoveable object' nightmare that has already gone on for 11 months and is seriously threatening my sanity - albeit whilst making me stronger and better and more mature. It’s an incredible ride – that’s all I can say. This nearly destroyed me – literally – and that’s before we have even become physically intimate. I’m thinking I’d have to be nigh-on suicidal to get involved with him – but the bond is so fierce that it feels like the world itself is pulling us together.
Any advice, information, assistance would be most sincerely appreciated. I’m at a loss of what to do.
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