DEMOCRATS WORRIED that Joe BIDEN TOO FEEBLE lacks mental alertness to TAKE ON TRUMP

JUPITERASC

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A breath of fresh air, thank you!
it's increasingly obvious now

that "...There has been a massive & coordinated effort
to steal this election.
more than 450,000 ballots in the key states.
miraculously only have a mark for Joe Biden...." :smile:
Six states with 79 electoral college votes
give Biden an edge of just 269,715 voters. Wow. :smile:






Trump dream team-Flynn lawyer Sidney Powell drops election bomb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9-ij8J_YOE











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ElenaJ

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Keeping with astrology, Barbara Watters in her book Horary Astrology and the Judgement of Events talks about evaluating political charts.
Chapter 9, pg. 198.
"We can sometimes make accurate political forecasts from charts cast for the moment of a significant event such as a man's public declaration that he will run for office, the nomination of a candidate, the convening of a political convention, a Supreme Court decision, or taking an oath of office. It is easier to predict the outcome of a presidential election from horary charts erected for the moment each of the candidates was examined than it is from their natal horoscopes or from transits over our national map".

So, with this in mind I cast the carts for Trump and for Biden, at the moment they accepted the nomination of their party.
Attached are the two charts. Because both Trump and Biden made their acceptance speech at approximately the same hour, but days apart, the ascendents are almost identical.

According to Watters, the following holds true:

- 1st house is the convention
- 7th house is the campaign the party runs.
-10th is the candidate

Saturn represents the Democratic Party, Jupiter represents the Republicans.

Moon is the electorate, the sun is the candidate. (in addition to the MH).



More later. In the meantime, any comments?
 

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leomoon

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Keeping with astrology, Barbara Watters in her book Horary Astrology and the Judgement of Events talks about evaluating political charts.
Chapter 9, pg. 198.
"We can sometimes make accurate political forecasts from charts cast for the moment of a significant event such as a man's public declaration that he will run for office, the nomination of a candidate, the convening of a political convention, a Supreme Court decision, or taking an oath of office. It is easier to predict the outcome of a presidential election from horary charts erected for the moment each of the candidates was examined than it is from their natal horoscopes or from transits over our national map".

So, with this in mind I cast the carts for Trump and for Biden, at the moment they accepted the nomination of their party.
Attached are the two charts. Because both Trump and Biden made their acceptance speech at approximately the same hour, but days apart, the ascendents are almost identical.

According to Watters, the following holds true:

- 1st house is the convention
- 7th house is the campaign the party runs.
-10th is the candidate

Saturn represents the Democratic Party, Jupiter represents the Republicans.

Moon is the electorate, the sun is the candidate. (in addition to the MH).



More later. In the meantime, any comments?


I looked 1st at the Biden chart and in the same book for guidance:










In the book's example chart it's McGovern who had the 0 deg.Aries which she said, "too pre-mature, ill conceived) which was correct.


In Joe Biden's nomination chart: Venus ruler of the ASC in 12Taurus near the 13th deg. opposite Jupiter 9th hs. (courts may decide ultimately to endorse his transition to POTUS) upholding the American people's votes.


Mars rules the DC cusp
- campaign to be waged on his behalf
25th Aries 12th house (intercepted here and delayed) but in its own sign Aries





6th House is the voters (wage earners of the country) ruler is Cancer 26 Virgo Moon - cadent delays
and exacts a trine to Jupiter - 9th house w/Pluto strong arm attending


Uranus in the 12th
also trine Jupiter speaks for itself...


Sun in 5th
with Mercury Trine Mars (ruler of the campaign itself)


Saturn rules the Democratic Party accdg. to Watters - and is cj. the MC
winner Trine Moon! :)
 
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leomoon

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Trump nomination chart:




Intriguing as Uranus 12th - is also for him as for Biden - showing delays, unusual and unexpected routes for the campaign to traverse.


Venus, ruler of the ASC as with Biden, but now in 3rd in Cancer which finds it's detriment in Saturn and fall in mars via 10°wide orb for square to mars from Venus.


Mars in Aries and also intercepted as with Biden - 12th house delays cadent - House ruled by Jupiter which fares well with Biden's Moon position.
Jupiter in this chart for him is mired in a stellium in the 9th house (Pluto-Jup-Moon)

Moon in Capricorn is in detriment - even though trine Mars & trine Uranus.
Shows success only via the crowds cheering him onward
His Ruler Venus opposes Pluto in the 9th hs of justice.


note:

pg. 200 -

"M's Watters says Jupiter rx - "promises much,delivers little" and she also says "Jupiter rules the Republican Party"




Note:
Still thinking about: Trump's nomination and [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I'm still concerned about the Sun (5th and Mercury here) both in intercepted sign of Virgo which[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]rules the 6th hs. of his voters (wage earners, etc) It does trine the 9th house Moon – Yet in Biden’s case, the Moon was not in Detriment and is an exact trine to Saturn in the 10th of POTUS the highest office. [/FONT]
 
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ElenaJ

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Christina Bobb addresses the state of the election
and the power of the American people to bring truth to this election.

Christina Bobb: Trump won. Patriots rise up in support :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sib...cc/RJTRCHDM/Biden-nomination-horary.jpg[/img]







In the book's example chart it's McGovern who had the 0 deg.Aries which she said, "too pre-mature, ill conceived) which was correct.


In Joe Biden's nomination chart: Venus ruler of the ASC in 12Taurus near the 13th deg. opposite Jupiter 9th hs. (courts may decide ultimately to endorse his transition to POTUS) upholding the American people's votes.


Mars rules the DC cusp
- campaign to be waged on his behalf
25th Aries 12th house (intercepted here and delayed) but in its own sign Aries





6th House is the voters (wage earners of the country) ruler is Cancer 26 Virgo Moon - cadent delays
and exacts a trine to Jupiter - 9th house w/Pluto strong arm attending


Uranus in the 12th
also trine Jupiter speaks for itself...


Sun in 5th
with Mercury Trine Mars (ruler of the campaign itself)


Saturn rules the Democratic Party accdg. to Watters - and is cj. the MC
winner Trine Moon! :)

So, with reference to the two charts for the moment when each candidate accepted the nomination from his party, the first house represents the convention itself. Given the strange coincidence that both accepted on different days but at almost the same hour, the ascendents are also identical.
Uranus is almost exactly on the cusp of the ascendent, and in fact this reflects the uniqueness of the conventions this year, caused by the Covit crisis. Ascendent ruler is in both cases Venus, in the 3rd house (media?).
The 10th house is the candidate, and here again, both are represented by the same sign, Capricorn, with ruler Saturn strong by sign, elevated and just into the 10th house.
What differentiates them is that saturn in the Trump chart has moved slightly forward and is in exactly the degree of the moon’s nodes, showing us a fated position.
Mars in the Trump chart is also in the degree of the nodes, making a trine to SN and sextile to NN.
No planets in the Biden chart are in the degree of the nodes.
The campaign is the 7th house, both in scorpio ruled by mars in the 12th squaring the candidate saturn.
Co-ruler pluto near the MH about to receive a conjunction from jupiter. So, both candicates could have run a better campagin to present themself but the pluto position helped to ameliate this.
So what changes between the two charts are the positions of the faster moving planets, sun-moon-mercury.
Sun according to Watters represents the candidate.
In the Biden chart sun is strong by sign and house in leo near the end of the sign, and void of course.
In the Trump chart sun has moved into virgo, at the early degrees and receives a trine from moon. This is a very positive aspect, and with moon on the cusp of the 9th of law we well know why!
The Part of Fortune is calculated according to the positions of the sun and moon, so this too varies between the two charts.
The Biden POF is in the 12th house so he has been favored by things going on behind the scenes. POF squares venus ruler of the ascendent.
The Trump POF is in the 9th (again, law) and exactly trines both uranus and ascendent. It is near a conjunction with jupiter, ruler of the 12th, so here again things going on behind the scenes, but in this case will favor his positon because of the trine, whereas Biden’s is square to jupiter and ascendent ruler.
Watters also tells us that the Democratic Party is ruled by saturn, and the Republican Party by jupiter, so Beden’s POF is being obstructed by the Republicans!
Moon, perhaps the single most significant planet to be evaluated here!
In the Biden chart moon is in virgo, on the cusp of the 6th house, and just by a hair trining saturn! This is very positive! In the example that leomoon cited, virgo indicates the working class.
However the moon also squares the moon’s nodes that lie across the 2nd/8th houses, not sure what this might represent. Mars on the other hand trines the SN and is sextile the NN, although neither saturn nor mars is in the degree of the nodes.
In the Trump chart, moon has moved on to capricorn, still an earth sign but now in its fall.
Significant that it is just into the 9th house of law and lawyers. As mentioned above it is near POF and trine uranus and ascendent.
We already mentioned the trine between sun and moon, but we also have the moon in a wide square with Chiron in Trump’s chart, so we see that what is going on behind the scenes is creating a problem for him. Moon also represents the 3rd of the media and communications and we know they are strongly opposed to the Trump candidacy.
Moon will conjunct jupiter, pluto, MH and saturn.
Whereas in the Biden chart we saw a developing square from 12th house mars to saturn, in the Trump chart it has already completed the aspect and has passed.
Because of the distance moon has to travel to reach the end of its sign, I’m not sure here if it will end with a square to mars, or if mars will have already moved on, making the conjunction with saturn the last aspect.
The moon represents the situation itself and the timing, but also the electorate.

We’ll see over time how these charts work out.
 

ElenaJ

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"note:

pg. 200 -

"M's Watters says Jupiter rx - "promises much,delivers little"



and she also says "Jupiter rules the Republican Party""



True.
This could mean the little backing in this case that Trump receives from the Republican Party.
 

leomoon

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Remember, what Regulus puts UP in life, is promised a great and very public FALL if his powers are misused:


sort of like this::pouty::surprised: (actually, it was predicted) by both his birth chart and personality to grovel in low places with his newfound fame & fortune:





 

leomoon

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"note:

pg. 200 -

"M's Watters says Jupiter rx - "promises much,delivers little"



and she also says "Jupiter rules the Republican Party""



True.
This could mean the little backing in this case that Trump receives from the Republican Party.


Through all the elections I've lived to witness and knowing history somewhat well, I'd say he is getting MORE backing, (not a Nixon office visit to push him out for example by Senators), but instead, vocal public "keep on a fightin' boss" i.e. McConnell endorsement, Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, on and on and on....all suck ups btw.



He is getting more then he deserves imo at the potential expense of the country the longer he holds out! The WORLD is watching us...as he fired the Secretary of Defense as a revengeful act (which is exactly why Regulus will see his fall) and he's not done yet acting out as a spoiled child looking for more things to break) They believe Chris Wray FBI chief and the Intel chief are next on his list. :pinched:
 
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david starling

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Through all the elections I've lived to witness and knowing history somewhat well, I'd say he is getting MORE backing, (not a Nixon office visit to push him out for example by Senators), but instead, vocal public "keep on a fightin' boss"



He is getting more then he deserves imo at the potential expense of the country the longer he holds out! The WORLD is watching us...as he fired the Secretary of Defense as a revengeful act (which is exactly why Regulus will see his fall) and he's not done yet acting out as a spoiled child looking for more things to break) They believe Chris Wray FBI chief and the Intel chief are next on his list. :pinched:

Most of the Republicans still in office are still backing him.
 

leomoon

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Will the Regulus native in the Oval Office, get yet another "knock-knock, you lose soon?"


After talking for 10 years about a plan that doesn't exist and never did exist (via Republicans and Trumps especially), the Health Care plan millions and millions count on , dubbed Obamacare is today being looked at once again in the Supreme Court brought about by yours truly, Mr. Regulus himself:










New York Post:
Supreme Court begins hearing arguments in Obamacare challenge Oral arguments got underway Tuesday morning in the case dubbed California v. Texas, with the health care of millions of Americans potentially hanging in the balance.

Los Angeles Times:



Nov. 10, 2020 Supreme Court justices appear ready to uphold Obamacare

Supreme Court justices sounded ready to uphold the Affordable Care Act for the third time and reject the latest challenge from its conservative critics, including President Trump.

Most of the justices gave a skeptical hearing to Texas Republicans and Trump's lawyers, who insisted the entire law, also known as Obamacare, should be voided because Congress had eliminated the tax penalty for those who did not have insurance.
 

ElenaJ

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Interesting side note.

In the Biden nomination chart, the moon separates from an opposition to Neptune, and is exactly conjunct Neptune in Bernie Sander's natal chart.
 

leomoon

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Interesting side note.

In the Biden nomination chart, the moon separates from an opposition to Neptune, and is exactly conjunct Neptune in Bernie Sander's natal chart.


We are looking rather at "nomination" charts. So I wouldn't be able to give my opinion on Bernie's nomination nor know what it could possibly be saying. Any ideas here? He's my hero, btw. IF I was forced to choose one that is, because usually, I don't look up to mortal beings very much.
 
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