Sorry for the late reply
So your excuse, despite still being the largest contributor to pollution in the world, the solution is for other countries to apply moderation. That seems farfetched.
I'm fine with the rhetoric of "we are now enlightened", if it meant said nations would actually practice what they preach. But they don't, while enjoying the benefits of abusing the planet. Lets go with some numbers: the UK has 66 million inhabitants. Brazil has at least 200 million, almost 4 times that number. There are close to 38 million cars registered in the UK, against 5 million in Brazil.
Of course people in Brazil are out to make money. They want to enjoy the same comfortable lifestyle you get to experience in 1st world nations. And for that you need development. Small farmers want more land, they want to produce more, and earn more money. This does create more jobs, and more production does activate the economy in the main cities. Lets say, when you produce more good, you also require more distribution channels, which creates more jobs transporting, packaging, retailing, advertising, etc. For developing nations such as Brazil, the aggro industry activates every other sector of the economy.
Supply and demand are not rules of "capitalism", just of humans. People want stuff, and other people create it for them. Corporations have no power, the market does, which is composed of regular people. The computer or phone you are using to log into the forum is composed of multiple goods that exist because you demanded to have such devise, not because some evil corporation is forcing you to use computers.]
I’m not making any excuses for my country, I am also not responsible for my country’s actions so I can’t be held responsible. My own carbon footprint is practically zero because I hardly travel, haven’t been abroad in years, it’s usually short trips around the UK and I don’t eat meat.
Ideally, the UK would be even more responsible and we wouldn’t have Prince Harry waxing lyrical about environmentalism and then using private jets 4x’s in a month. If the UK made an environmental disaster like Brazil did, I think everyone would be in uproar like they are with Bolsonaro.
Are you saying that we shouldn’t care about the environment? And it’s not negligible to get rid of the Amazon? Or do you solely take the side of the Brazilins?
Why does me believing in the sanctity of the environment mean I don’t care abouthe Brazilians? Why do you have to not care about the environment because you want to see Brazil create more wealth?
You only eat meat at the weekends and this is for financial reasons, is there not a part of you that is glad you are also reducing meat consumption for environmental reasons and also saving cows lives at the same time?
Also, do you really think animals have less right to life than us? I watched a video about animal testing last night (I wasn’t sure if I should or not) and there is a clear separation between the monkeys anguish and the professionalism of the lab workers.
You can tell the lab workers have been trained to not respond to the monkeys in a humanitarian way because a man injected a needle into the upper side of a monkeys eye ball but even though the monkey was sedated, it still had the energy to quickly put up his arm in pain and by reflex the lab man stopped for a second and then seemed to remember his training and carried on. Compassion is natural although I can’t stop seeing that image now.
Maybe you have been trained to avoid compassion like the lab man but if you thought about it would you not feel the pain of the monkey too?
This does not mean I have an answer to solve testing medicine but I know it’s not right. I don’t have an answer to solve the poverty of Brazil but I know destroying the Amazon is not right.
I don’t have the answers and I admit that but I would like you to admit the opposite side to your argument.
Something has to give. We are exploding as a population and there has not been suggested a solution. Maybe Mother Nature will terminate us when we push it too far.
Maybe we need more people to die and we are due a natural disaster or a plague. Maybe the Saturn-Pluto conjunction will release a disease and solve the problem for us and we will feel sad naturally.
You can end world hunger with about 2% of our global production. Its not about numbers. Even in a vegan world, there would still be preference over certain products, as there is today among vegans.
The avocado fruit is the best example, a staple favourite for modern day vegans. Its a fruit which requires quite a lot of land, and takes time to produce. This is why, in Mexico, farmers are also destroying the ecosystem by tearing down forests in order to produce more.
But hey its cool, because Vegans do care about the environment right? 
https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/avocado_consumption_environmental_and_social_considerations
OMG don’t get me started on avocados! I had an argument with a so-called spiritual lady. She frequents a horary group a lot and is clearly just there to sell her business. She even asks for help in the horary group in reading a chart she is getting paid to read!
I politely informed her about the danger of the avocado fad and instead of being happy to receive information she shut me down in a very egotistical way and I was confused until months later she told me it was because she had an avocado business.
She is a fake spiritual charlatan type but it was a bizarre argument to have with her with the word avocado repeated. It had comedy value even though there was a darkness to her selfishness.
I hardly eat any avocados.
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