Can we just agree astrologers are biased politically?
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conspiracy theorist
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Yes they are. Before the 2016 elections, I looked at both the contenders' charts and Trump's looked to show the most positive markers for a victory, yet it seemed like a lot of his detractors didn't so much as mention these very obvious markers.
I never take the political or mundane predictions of "celebrity" astrologers seriously. There is nothing about the practice that requires astrologers to be objective/remain in a state of Epoche. In fact, just the opposite.
There is one analysis that I liked though, regarding the previous election, and it was this one over at astrology-x-files. https://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-files/election2016.html. I particularly liked that his "preamble" included what he saw as the similarities of the candidates' charts and how that aligns with wider collective cycles.
I never take the political or mundane predictions of "celebrity" astrologers seriously. There is nothing about the practice that requires astrologers to be objective/remain in a state of Epoche. In fact, just the opposite.
There is one analysis that I liked though, regarding the previous election, and it was this one over at astrology-x-files. https://www.astrology-x-files.com/x-files/election2016.html. I particularly liked that his "preamble" included what he saw as the similarities of the candidates' charts and how that aligns with wider collective cycles.
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Bunraku
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I think it cut through the BS about people(the moderator I think? ) saying Trumps Mars was immature or defective and somehow Hillary is more advanced. Seems like his Mars is working just fine. He literally won ? 
It also cut through a lot of the BS about the Scorpio worship about how they can beat anyone or anything, and how they come back for a vengeance, but again look who won.
It also cut through a lot of the BS about the Scorpio worship about how they can beat anyone or anything, and how they come back for a vengeance, but again look who won.
conspiracy theorist
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And here comes another Scorpio as the primary candidate for the Democrat party. This latest scandal about his son's business dealings is definitely a body shot of massive proportions. Will his bid survive?
Bunraku
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Can we just agree that everyone is biased [politically and otherwise]?
Next question...
No we cannot.
Staying on this question
So far the mainstream press, the BIG TECH social media watchdogs, and the Dem politicians have done a great job covering up the scandal. They are pretending like it was another Russian spy-operation, and calling it debunked.
Many Dems accept that narrative and so it may not hurt him that badly in the voting. A lot of votes have been mailed in already.
But eventually all will be revealed.
In other words, it would be a body blow, if we actually had objective, honest journalists.
JUPITERASC
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Suddenly all descriptors of trumps natal chart is negative when a left leaning person interprets it
There's NO WAY Trump supporters can possibly comprehend that they are doing this, because of the derangement factor.
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david starling
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Any astrologers with Sun in Aquarius biased in Trump's favor?
david starling
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Suddenly all descriptors of trumps natal chart is negative when a left leaning person interprets it
They were too focused on the Popular Vote, which he DID lose, and not aware enough about the difference between that, and the Electoral College Vote, which is the one that counts.
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david starling
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It's about interpreting the current transit configurations relative to his Natal-chart--same configuration, different interpretation.
CapAquaPis
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Astrology is supposedly political neutral and doesn't actually favor a candidate in an election. All it does is pinpoint who's the most probable winner and many times, their forecasts are accurate. The majority of astrologers 4 years ago said Hillary Rodham Clinton who had won the popular vote, then you have those who said it will be Donald Trump and he won the constitutionally-legal electoral vote. It's not who's right and wrong, this is evident one candidate had more individuals voted, but the other candidate was approved by the majority of 538 federal officials to made the final decision of the legitimate electoral victor.
Astrology can explain the years 1763, 1776, 1783 and 1787 for the history of the US: 1. the first revolution in the then British colonies, 2. declaration of independence (July 4, 1776), 3. the end of the American revolutionary war (mid Sep 1783) and the constitution drafted (also mid Sep in the year 1787).
Then we have the years 2001, 2012, 2020 and 2024 in our current lifetime to have high importance in the US: 1. The terrorist attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon (Sep 11, 2001), 2. The re-election of Barack Obama (Nov 2012 not far from the hyped Dec 21st "new age" date), 3. the COVID pandemic (2020) and 4. in the near future, the US' Plutonian return on Jan 2024 in the 20-29' range of Capricorn awfully close to the cusp of Aquarius. (the end of the US?)
The periods of 1750-89 (George Washington is the 1st US president 1788-97) and 2000-26 (the US' 250th anniversary in 2025-27) are the most tumultous for the USA, and the possibility of a very decisive, divisive and possibly invalid all-mail-in ballot election is going to intensify a crisis in the highest magnitude.
Currently, the majority of astrologers confirm their prediction is in high favor for Joe Biden, then again, the electoral college could re-elect the incumbent.
Astrology can explain the years 1763, 1776, 1783 and 1787 for the history of the US: 1. the first revolution in the then British colonies, 2. declaration of independence (July 4, 1776), 3. the end of the American revolutionary war (mid Sep 1783) and the constitution drafted (also mid Sep in the year 1787).
Then we have the years 2001, 2012, 2020 and 2024 in our current lifetime to have high importance in the US: 1. The terrorist attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon (Sep 11, 2001), 2. The re-election of Barack Obama (Nov 2012 not far from the hyped Dec 21st "new age" date), 3. the COVID pandemic (2020) and 4. in the near future, the US' Plutonian return on Jan 2024 in the 20-29' range of Capricorn awfully close to the cusp of Aquarius. (the end of the US?)
The periods of 1750-89 (George Washington is the 1st US president 1788-97) and 2000-26 (the US' 250th anniversary in 2025-27) are the most tumultous for the USA, and the possibility of a very decisive, divisive and possibly invalid all-mail-in ballot election is going to intensify a crisis in the highest magnitude.
Currently, the majority of astrologers confirm their prediction is in high favor for Joe Biden, then again, the electoral college could re-elect the incumbent.
david starling
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This is why astrologers need to be politically astute enough distinguish between the Popular Vote prediction and the Electoral College prediction.
david starling
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There are other factors also, such as the pandemic. That's a real game-changer!
david starling
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There's a lot of emphasis on founding dates of nations and institutions in mundane studies, and the U.S. founding date is subject to opinion.
Since I'm viewing the current state of affairs from an astrological Ages perspective, I get my sanguine mindset from that.
Opal
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Mundane Astrology - The Astrology of Nations and States
It is three books, one each by:
H. S. Green
Raphael
C. E. O. Carter
Right now I have been reading Green concerning the Jupiter Saturn conjunction that David so kindly reminded us of.
All 3 are good reads. I have sticky bookmarks everywhere in it.
Good deal for 3 books.
david starling
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Siriusly
This transition into the Aquarian Age isn't easy. I see the current political situation as tragic, but as a necessary part of the process.
david starling
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david starling
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Siriusly
Could psilocybin mushrooms be the cause of Trump's derangement? Maybe he believes the "magic mushrooms" are giving him protection from the Virus!
JUPITERASC
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Could be Trump's been ingesting large amounts of psilocybin mushrooms!
Suddenly all descriptors of trumps natal chart is negative when a left leaning person interprets it
There's NO WAY Trump supporters can possibly comprehend that they are doing this, because of the derangement factor.
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