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What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

(this is like your sun, moon and rising except its for aspects)

Do you think the aspects are more descriptive than your actual sun, moon, and rising?

For me it's:
Sun-Saturn
Moon-Mercury
Asc-Mars

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Sun conjunct saturn and moon square sun/saturn.
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Sun conjunct saturn and moon square sun/saturn.
Jeez, that Saturn energy..

What about rising aspect?
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Jeez, that Saturn energy..

What about rising aspect?
The only thing that aspects my asc is NN. Asc 29,40 sagg, NN 27,03 virgo.
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The only thing that aspects my asc is NN. Asc 29,40 sagg, NN 27,03 virgo.
Dude put that in there.
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Dude put that in there.
Put what in there lol ?
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Put what in there lol ?
Add it to your original answer. Lul
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Add it to your original answer. Lul
Idk what NN is doing to my asc though, so i just leave it out.
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Idk what NN is doing to my asc though, so i just leave it out.
I think the north node is underrated. But whatever works for you.
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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

What is meant by powerful?
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What is meant by powerful?
Like, better at explaining your personality.

Usually the sun, moon, and rising are used to get a general idea of someone's personality. But I think zodiac signs are inaccurate.

SO, does your tightest aspects to your sun, moon, and rising explain your personality more accurately?
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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

Since you're now developing your astrological method, and you've been interacting with me for a couple of years, let's see if my tightest aspects to these points better explain my personality, as you've experienced it. I'm keeping it simple by giving you longitudinal aspects.

Sun conjunct Mercury by 3 degrees
Moon sextile Mars by 1 degree
Ascendant sextile Moon partile
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Since you're now developing your astrological method, and you've been interacting with me for a couple of years, let's see if my tightest aspects to these points better explain my personality, as you've experienced it. I'm keeping it simple by giving you longitudinal aspects.

Sun conjunct Mercury by 3 degrees
Moon sextile Mars by 1 degree
Ascendant sextile Moon partile
Hmm..

I don't know. I feel like this whole "3 things, 3 signs, 3 aspects" isn't all that helpful for actually understanding someone's personality.

What are all your sun aspects and moon aspects?
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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

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(this is like your sun, moon and rising except its for aspects)

Do you think the aspects are more descriptive than your actual sun, moon, and rising?

For me it's:
Sun-Saturn
Moon-Mercury
Asc-Mars
ASC conjunct Uranus
Sun unaspected
Moon conjunct Mercury

But you didn't ask us to describe ourselves in words - how we appear, who we are, what our instincts are like, etc. Which was part of the fun.

In any case, I agree with ASC and Sun. Moon aspect is iffy because its in Cancer. Its more descriptive to me than the Moon-Mercury, which the conjunction by itself implies emotional coldness and detached, intellectual emotions. Yet Cancer actually overflows with emotions and warmth.

This is a case of which planet in the conjunction is stronger. Since moon is stronger than mercury, the moon dominates and the conjunction leads towards the more emotional end. Which will be completely different if it was moon-mercury in Virgo, then mercury is stronger and dominates the moon, giving it a colder, intellectual flavor.

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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

Hmm, alright.

Sun conjunct Mercury
Sun conjunct Pluto
Sun parallel Uranus
Sun parallel Neptune

Moon sextile ascendant
Moon sextile Mars
Moon sextile Jupiter
Moon sextile Venus
Moon square Pluto
Moon parallel Pluto
Moon parallel Saturn

For the record, this approach to personality indicators is closer to more ancient techniques that would look more at the aspects that planets make to personality points, and not at the sign that the planet/point happened to be in.
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Hmm, alright.

Sun conjunct Mercury
Sun conjunct Pluto
Sun parallel Uranus
Sun parallel Neptune

Moon sextile ascendant
Moon sextile Mars
Moon sextile Jupiter
Moon sextile Venus
Moon square Pluto
Moon parallel Pluto
Moon parallel Saturn

For the record, this approach to personality indicators is closer to more ancient techniques that would look more at the aspects that planets make to personality points, and not at the sign that the planet/point happened to be in.
I think that's way more descriptive than your Sun in Sag, and Moon in Aquarius. Way more accurate I think.

It's more ancient? Oh. Idk, I just think zodiac signs are unhelpful. They need to be reevaluated. Or something. Having 12 signs, and each sign being a certain archetype just doesn't help.
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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

I have some thoughts on what you just said but I'm unwilling to elaborate because I have to use a shitty mobile and I'm feeling mentally sluggish at the moment.

Why isn't having 12 signs with certain archetypes helpful? How could something be a symbol if it isn't in some way archetypal?
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I have some thoughts on what you just said but I'm unwilling to elaborate because I have to use a shitty mobile and I'm feeling mentally sluggish at the moment.

Why isn't having 12 signs with certain archetypes helpful? How could something be a symbol if it isn't in some way archetypal?
Well, the archetype for Aries is the warrior. But Aries people donít act like warriors.
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It's more ancient? Oh.
Remember when I spoke to you regarding temperament analysis? That's one example. Lilly looks at manners and Petosiris linked you chapter 13 of tetrobiblos in a recent thread of yours. It's entitled qualities of the soul and also takes a similar approach to the aforementioned techniques.
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Well, the archetype for Aries is the warrior. But Aries people donít act like warriors.
Do you think that this might be a one-sided way of viewing the energy? Not to say that your grievances have no validity, but it might serve you to do deeper study and research of the signs and how they are likely to manifest. A warrior can be a soldier, and that same spirit could be what an orphan uses to rise out of his terrible childhood to make a place for himself in the world. It's a little more nuanced than you seem to make it out to be.
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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

Also, what is meant by Aries person?
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Remember when I spoke to you regarding temperament analysis? That's one example. Lilly looks at manners and Petosiris linked you chapter 13 of tetrobiblos in a recent thread of yours. It's entitled qualities of the soul and also takes a similar approach to the aforementioned techniques.
Oh. Okay, I will look over that again.

I thought modern astrologers were the people that helped people understand personality not ancient or older astrologers.

Much confused.

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Do you think that this might be a one-sided way of viewing the energy? Not to say that your grievances have no validity, but it might serve you to do deeper study and research of the signs and how they are likely to manifest. A warrior can be a soldier, and that same spirit could be what an orphan uses to rise out of his terrible childhood to make a place for himself in the world. It's a little more nuanced than you seem to make it out to be.
Well yes, that's how I've always thought about the zodiac signs. Like I'm a Leo and my archetype is the king. But my personality isn't kingly or overly animated like a Leo.

But I will agree that the Leo energy serves as kind of a lens to how I deal with life. But it just seems vague to me, and just not helpful.

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Also, what is meant by Aries person?
A person with Sun, Moon, Rising and/or stellium in Aries.
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Re: What is your most powerful sun aspect, moon aspect, and rising aspect?

Well, now you know that modern astrologers didn't event the personality analysis wheel, and the more you read source material you'll understand just how much slinging of **** is being done between the modern and traditional camps. A lot of misconceptions being banded around as gospel truth, which loses its lustre once you take a look under the hood.

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