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Unread 10-07-2018, 12:19 PM
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Romeo and Juliet

I think this is love but why people are against it? Whenever I share or ask for advice even Astrology wise about my relationship...People are just against it.
This is hard because I makes me self doubt and be alone with this.
Should we still fight and follow our hearts?


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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

Thoughts about this chart?
I hope this year brings only good things.
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Unread 12-28-2018, 02:25 PM
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Re: Romeo and Juliet

I hate that people feel that astrology´s compatability system is an absolute truth when we know it isnt.
I´m not an astrologer but a synastry chart i think it´s supposed to show struggles and easy aspects between people. That doesn´t mean they cannot work through them together. Feelings can go and come. People love differently accordingly to their emotional and desiring needs.

People´s opinions are just that, opinions not absolute truth´s. If you want to be with this person , go for it. Whatever happens or not is going to make you grow, just don´t regret yourself for something you wish you had done. You are here on earth to learn whatever lessons life has to teach you.

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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

I see Gemini and Taurus suns. Are you referring to your moon signs?
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

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I see Gemini and Taurus suns. Are you referring to your moon signs?
Yes I am :happy, I'm the Scorpio Moon. Are we at all compatible?
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I hate that people feel that astrology´s compatability system is an absolute truth when we know it isnt.
I´m not an astrologer but a synastry chart i think it´s supposed to show struggles and easy aspects between people. That doesn´t mean they cannot work through them together. Feelings can go and come. People love differently accordingly to their emotional and desiring needs.

People´s opinions are just that, opinions not absolute truth´s. If you want to be with this person , go for it. Whatever happens or not is going to make you grow, just don´t regret yourself for something you wish you had done. You are here on earth to learn whatever lessons life has to teach you.

You are the decision maker. The universe will support you!
It's so nice of you to say! Thank you.
I do believe in free will. Nevertheless, Astrology has been very real and helpful in un terms of understanding things...Hence' I want to know how and why this relationship can work or not. Love is not the issue, I think. I do want to stay and grow with it! I just hope to do it in a way that creates growth...Not pain. Looking at the Synastry seems a way to see how to do that.
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Re: Romeo and Juliet

Synastry (beyond what I call the "pop-schlock" level) really isn't about signs, so much as degrees. We look for planet pairs that are conjunct, sextiled, or trined as harmonious aspects. With squares and oppositions, the people definitely connect, but probably in stressful ways. No major aspects are a "meh" kind of factor: not much connection.

Then sometimes happily married people have dismal synastry, but their composite chart looks pretty good.

It's too difficult to read the degrees off the chart you posted. However, you can trust your experience over that of amateur astrologers if this is a long-term relationship.
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Synastry (beyond what I call the "pop-schlock" level) really isn't about signs, so much as degrees. We look for planet pairs that are conjunct, sextiled, or trined as harmonious aspects. With squares and oppositions, the people definitely connect, but probably in stressful ways. No major aspects are a "meh" kind of factor: not much connection.

Then sometimes happily married people have dismal synastry, but their composite chart looks pretty good.

It's too difficult to read the degrees off the chart you posted. However, you can trust your experience over that of amateur astrologers if this is a long-term relationship.
Thank you for the caution. Don't want to go all cookbook. What will be a better chart to post?
Composite attached. Anything at all is helpful.
This relationship has been love at first sight and very committed. Yet, it is also often painful and stressful for me. I'm wondering how much it is me needing to change and improve my issues and how much it is triggered by the relationship.
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Thank you for the caution. Don't want to go all cookbook. What will be a better chart to post?
Composite attached. Anything at all is helpful.
This relationship has been love at first sight and very committed. Yet, it is also often painful and stressful for me. I'm wondering how much it is me needing to change and improve my issues and how much it is triggered by the relationship.
I don't have much to add beyond what others have said. I'd say that a Gemini/Gemini is going to be a lot different person than a Taurus/Scorpio, but I'm sure that's something you already see. As for composite, I think the 11th house is a great placement for the sun.

How new is the relationship? Pain and stress do occur even in successful relationships, but if you're hurting early on, that might be a sign of incompatibility.
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I don't have much to add beyond what others have said. I'd say that a Gemini/Gemini is going to be a lot different person than a Taurus/Scorpio, but I'm sure that's something you already see. As for composite, I think the 11th house is a great placement for the sun.

How new is the relationship? Pain and stress do occur even in successful relationships, but if you're hurting early on, that might be a sign of incompatibility.
That is such a wise thing to say...I don't know. I mean, just look st my natal! I'm not meant nor do I crave easygoing relationships. So it's hard to tell when it is like you described and when it's judt hard.
Could a Gemini Moon maybe balance a Scorpio Moon?
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

Without looking at the bi-wheel chart in your OP (I don't know how to read these things), I'd say it could possibly work if you have angle contacts. For example, maybe your Sun or Moon or other important planets are located in his angular and/or relationship houses (the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 7th). Or maybe your angle-rulers have contact with each other. But the most important thing is, follow your heart. Yes it's a cliche, but I really think it's good advice. If you really do feel strong love for this person, don't let anything get in the way.

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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

Just from looking at the two charts, I can see some positive contact points, but I'm not clear that they are strong enough to sustain a long-term relationship without a lot of tension and friction.
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Without looking at the bi-wheel chart in your OP (I don't know how to read these things), I'd say it could possibly work if you have angle contacts. For example, maybe your Sun or Moon or other important planets are located in his angular and/or relationship houses (the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 7th). Or maybe your angle-rulers have contact with each other. But the most important thing is, follow your heart. Yes it's a cliche, but I really think it's good advice. If you really do feel strong love for this person, don't let anything get in the way.
Our angles are conjunct each other!
His Asc is conjunct my MC and his DC is conjunct my IC.
What does tha mean?
His Jupiter is in my 1st house but not same sign as my Asc. My Jupiter is in his 4th house.
My Saturn is conjunct his MC.
My Mars is in his 11th house.
Does that count?
It's hard to be together but we both feel like we are meant to be and work it out.
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Just from looking at the two charts, I can see some positive contact points, but I'm not clear that they are strong enough to sustain a long-term relationship without a lot of tension and friction.
Tension yes...But do you see that we love each other or are we just projecting an image? I ask because I worry about projection and illusion...I'm prone to it.
I also need to understand how we impact each other.
We don't live together yet but if we will?
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

Looking at your composite chart, I extremely doubt it and it won't happen. I'm sorry to said this. Moon opposition Saturn. That's bad.
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That is such a wise thing to say...I don't know. I mean, just look st my natal! I'm not meant nor do I crave easygoing relationships. So it's hard to tell when it is like you described and when it's judt hard.
Could a Gemini Moon maybe balance a Scorpio Moon?
What do you mean when you say you don't want an easygoing relationship? If you want a sparring partner, Gemini could be a problem. We are good at sparring, but that's not what we generally want from our SO. We want a mentally and sexually stimulating best friend, someone who always has our back, but doesn't stand in our way. I'm generalizing wildly, of course.

Who says your relationship is a problem? Just astrology or people who've witnessed you together? Real life always trumps the chart, in my view.
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What do you mean when you say you don't want an easygoing relationship? If you want a sparring partner, Gemini could be a problem. We are good at sparring, but that's not what we generally want from our SO. We want a mentally and sexually stimulating best friend, someone who always has our back, but doesn't stand in our way. I'm generalizing wildly, of course.

Who says your relationship is a problem? Just astrology or people who've witnessed you together? Real life always trumps the chart, in my view.
Good questions.
I guess I want a relationship where talking in depth about subjects happens. I totally relate to having a partner who is a best friend . I always wanted that too and I'm very loyal.
The Astrology/Astrologers says it won't work. I mind it because there is an issue where I feel we go from real deep conversation and relating to something very cold. I always want communication but he sometimes goes away. I know he loves me...But I do experience a lot of stress and hurt when it happens. I tried changing and seeing what I need and it helped a lot. Yet, I know in some life situations I will be weak and need him to be strong for me...So I can let go.
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

"Needing" another person "to be strong" for you should set off alarm bells in your head, as it possibly does in his, when he "goes away."

Relationships tend not to work so well when one person exhibits this kind of emotional dependency on the other person. It's a big burden to place on someone.

In the composite chart, the moon in a T-square with Saturn and Pluto suggests a dynamic of control issues.

Sadly, sometimes love is not enough to sustain a healthy relationship.
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Good questions.
I guess I want a relationship where talking in depth about subjects happens. I totally relate to having a partner who is a best friend . I always wanted that too and I'm very loyal.
The Astrology/Astrologers says it won't work. I mind it because there is an issue where I feel we go from real deep conversation and relating to something very cold. I always want communication but he sometimes goes away. I know he loves me...But I do experience a lot of stress and hurt when it happens. I tried changing and seeing what I need and it helped a lot. Yet, I know in some life situations I will be weak and need him to be strong for me...So I can let go.
I have Venus in Taurus, and so do both of you. That could have a lot to do with wanting your lover to be your best friend too.

Anyway, you do have some positive aspects like the shared Venuses (I like conjunct Venuses, and Venus conjunct the sun) and your sun sextile his Mercury. It is not enough to overcome all those difficult aspects from an astrological pov. Trust Waybread on that.

Him seeming cold could definitely show this incompatibility, but it could also mean you see the relationship differently. Are you an established thing? What do you mean he just goes away?
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I have Venus in Taurus, and so do both of you. That could have a lot to do with wanting your lover to be your best friend too.

Anyway, you do have some positive aspects like the shared Venuses (I like conjunct Venuses, and Venus conjunct the sun) and your sun sextile his Mercury. It is not enough to overcome all those difficult aspects from an astrological pov. Trust Waybread on that.

Him seeming cold could definitely show this incompatibility, but it could also mean you see the relationship differently. Are you an established thing? What do you mean he just goes away?
It's very sad but I can see it.
We are established, love each other a lot. He sometimes just goes away on an emotional level or silent.
Any insights into the mind and life of a Gemini with Venus in Taurus?
I guess I need to date fellow water Moons or something.
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"Needing" another person "to be strong" for you should set off alarm bells in your head, as it possibly does in his, when he "goes away."

Relationships tend not to work so well when one person exhibits this kind of emotional dependency on the other person. It's a big burden to place on someone.

In the composite chart, the moon in a T-square with Saturn and Pluto suggests a dynamic of control issues.

Sadly, sometimes love is not enough to sustain a healthy relationship.
I know several happy couples with hards aspects in composite.Still a mystery to me.
Anyway,you wret right. It's up to debate who here is dependent on who...He thinks I'm wrong about us being incompatible. He doesn't hurt emotionaly so I thought it's my needy Scorpio Moon.
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

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moons gemini-scorpio are 6/8 lords mer-mars semi-friendly,
prone to conflict in marriage-relationship;
emotionally not compatible to begin with in the first place;

gemini ruled by intellectual mercury, analytical, humorous, clever, business analyst,
good at information processing, confused at decision making, etc

moon scorpio debilated the dark pit,
secretive, suspicious, sentimental, sarcastic, jealous, passionate;
research-occult-forensic psychology aptitudes;


moon-sat opp in the composite over enemy signs leo-acq 1/7 houses,
conflict prone again;


true love does not need any synastry,
one is ready to go alongwith, sustain the relationship come what may;
but often so called lovers break-up sooner, blind love;


hope enables take realistic stock and the reflections to carefully adapt,
do share ground feedbacks how true-insightful-helpful-trends-prospects,


wishing well, kshantaram

btw : the synastry does not clarify who is who, male/female
people fancy to hide details without any real reasons probably;
names anyway hidden for privacy;
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moons gemini-scorpio are 6/8 lords mer-mars semi-friendly,
prone to conflict in marriage-relationship;
emotionally not compatible to begin with in the first place;

gemini ruled by intellectual mercury, analytical, humorous, clever, business analyst,
good at information processing, confused at decision making, etc

moon scorpio debilated the dark pit,
secretive, suspicious, sentimental, sarcastic, jealous, passionate;
research-occult-forensic psychology aptitudes;


moon-sat opp in the composite over enemy signs leo-acq 1/7 houses,
conflict prone again;


true love does not need any synastry,
one is ready to go alongwith, sustain the relationship come what may;
but often so called lovers break-up sooner, blind love;


hope enables take realistic stock and the reflections to carefully adapt,
do share ground feedbacks how true-insightful-helpful-trends-prospects,


wishing well, kshantaram

btw : the synastry does not clarify who is who, male/female
people fancy to hide details without any real reasons probably;
names anyway hidden for privacy;
Thank you. I see you agree that not compatible. I am the Taurus female in the Synastry.
Maybe it's blind love...I feel its a spiritual love in some respects. I am happy yo expreince it even if it can't work.
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

I am a Scorpio, and I don’t think these charts are incompatible. I see some very deep and important soul connections here.


Look at the blue rectangle in the synastry chart. It is a Mystic Rectangle and that is created by your Sun to his Mercury/Pluto and both of your Uranus/Neptunes. In other words, he needs your Sun to stabilize his Mercury /Pluto trine and his Mercury/Uranus-Neptune opposition. You ground him and help him utilize his skills and strengths in a real way.

His Mercury greatly enhances your Sun/Pluto opposition. He softens you and helps you to believe in love and miracles and emotional nurturing. He ‘mothers’ you at times, when things feel bleak.

He is a triple Gemini. I know that must be hard for you as it would be for anyone. lol

True triple Geminis are hard to find. To be born at Sunrise during a Gemini New Moon is quite rare. His ability to talk his way in and out of every situation must be legendary. And i truly understand why he ‘goes missing’ sometimes. Being a triple Gemini is exhausting. For him as well as you. He needs to shut down and separate to recharge his internal batteries. IT IS NOT A REJECTION OF YOU.

That ^^^^ is the most important thing for you to understand in this relationship. IT IS NOT A REJECTION OF YOU, when he disconnects and recharges himself. It is a necessary routine for a triple Gemini in order to keep from going insane.

A triple mutable Gemini will experience anxiety, nervousness, mental exhaustion if they do not take mandatory rests and respites.
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Re: Scorpio and a Gemini

Good points, Katydid.

PRL, I wouldn't use the key word "needy" for a Scorpio moon, so much as an intense desire to really get inside another person's skin. If the other person (like a "needy" Cancer moon) responds well to this, fine. A Cancer moon longs to merge with another person.

As a sign, however, Gemini thrives on light mental exercise, communication, and information gathering. It's an air sign. It's mental. I would almost go so far as to say to a watery moon, not to make the relationship about having your needs met. Because to an airy person, they will seem like a bottomless pit, that they have no ability to fill.

If you love this person, rather, go out to dinner with him and friends, and keep the conversation fun and flowing. Do the Sunday morning newspaper crossword puzzle together.

Obviously, Gemini planets have needs, too, but they're different.
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