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Can you please upload the chart ?

To do that, go to astro.com and either make a chart unregistered or make an account and then add the data.
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No chart will show whether or not someone is a "bad" person. "Badness" is measured by deeds, not by the life potential at birth that is the horoscope.
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A Scorpio?! Yeah, you're a terrible human being.
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nope. why you think that?
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Scorpios have no more "bad" people than any other sun sign.

What you have, sachapac, is Saturn square sun. This is a big recipe for feelings of inadequacy. In contrast, most of your chart looks like a life without serious difficulties. So thank Saturn for "sharing" and then don't pay much attention to him.

Scorpios know they operate on a far more emotionally intense level than the other signs. But unless you've murdered someone, robbed a bank, or its moral equivalent; no, you are not a bad person.
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Yea I get that - not taking anything too deep or literally.

I'm trying to figure out what makes me tick and where my influences are based and i suppose whether i am to be truly challenged on a cosmic level - through lessons i need to master or whatever..

Again, i say "challenged" with subtle and light humour
Nothing much to add to what everyone said, but, I have to say, I love the jolly enchanting chart! Venus, Mercury, Pluto, Neptune, the Node, Uranus, Jupiter, Mars, the Sun-some sweet magic you can work there! Your Mercury is on my Sun and your Pluto closely conjuncts my Mercury

It's just what Waybread said, those particular misdeeds are what make people bad.

Your lesson is the tiny little Sun square. Whenever you try to radiate the flaws of the Sun, Saturn won't hesitate to correct you, but it's OK. I feel for the Moon inconjunction too, so: *big hug* Take good care of yourself, OK?
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Of course you're not a fundamentally bad person. A chart merely shows your potential at birth. God doesn't make mistakes.

However, with Saturn square sun-Mars, you probably go through life with self-esteem issues. The sun is your core sense of self, and Saturn oftentimes shows where we feel inadequate and not-good-enough. The square shows a conflict between sun and Saturn. Also, your chart suggests a fair bit of ambition (via a type of aspect called a quintile,) so if you don't live up to your achievement standards, you are apt to be very hard on yourself.

When you get these negative feelings about yourself, thank them for sharing. Then go on and appreciate all the great things you have going for yourself.
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libra asc, artistic aptitudes, social, objective,

wavering decision making, stormy anger when provoked.
asc lord venus debilated 12th self-centred,
possessive spouse, spouse worship perhaps.

jup lord of elevation-pisces for venus conjunct, jup-venus virgo

debilation of venus cancelled, gradual pace of growth,
tending to foreign lands.


jup-moon virgo 11th, perfectionist, critical thinking,
may be choosy about friends,

teaching-facilitating-advisory-audit aptitudes and gains,
pisces 6th inclined to teaching-learning work environments.


leo 11th inimical for libra asc,
income-gains-rewards-friendships
under stress-delay-tension, not smoothgoing


moon 10th lord/cancer over 11th virgo, gains from career,
but under stress-delay, inimical leo cusp.


jup aspect own pisces 6th protective of health
and employment prospects.


jup trine aspect cap 4th affecting domestic comforts,
mother's health, property matters, knees-lungs etc


sat airy acq own 4th, tech aptitude, aptitude for public admin,
reformist, innovative, good for property matters, sat lord 4th too.

sat debilated aspect over aries 7th affecting marriage,
sat aspect leo 10th stress in career matters,
sat aspect scorpio 2nd affecting family-finances


sun-mars-mer scorpio 2nd research-occult aptitudes,

reserved, sentimental, suspicious, volatile finances.


separative ketu over cancer 11th, hypersensitive,
prone to career-job changes.


currently jup transit natal moon-jup-virgo 11th for gains,
promoting teaching-facilitating-advisroy skills-income etc,

sooner now rahu joins jup/moon-virgo tending to rise-fall,
to care yr ahead.

ketu transit pisces 6th prone to health issues, job separation, etc
jup aspect pisces-ketu 6th protective till mid-Aug 016 or so.


wishing luck from 9th lord mer over scorpio 2nd,
research-occult aptitudes, sun-mer-mars scorpio,


sat moved to sag 3rd for initiative-progress coming 2yrs,
sat aspect own acq 5th protective of education-position

but may not be good for health of children,
sat transit sq moon-jup under stress however,
sat aspect moon-jup virgo 11th restraining income-gains.


past 2.5yrs sat transit sun-mer-scorpio 2nd
family-finances etc under stress,
while promoting research-occult interests.


chart with research, teaching-advisory,reformist-innovative aptitudes,
results-rewards under stress-delay-tension, not smooth going,
self-centered, reserved, suspicious, critical,
wavery decision making, stormy anger, objective, love of justice-fairness.


hope generic observations-inputs enable reflect further, pick as relevant,

could share specific feedbacks per return.
hope find insights useful. could share agreements-disagreements.



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Thats super in depth, thank you. I find it difficult to put all of that together - What would you say are the over arching themes of my chart?

You mentioned "under stress" and the term"lord" repeated throughout, do you mind explaining whether the reference to stress means this is a development area for me? As well as explain what the term "lord" means?

thank you for any explanation - thanks in advance x
1st House (1st Lord) Aries, Mesha, Mars
2nd House (2nd Lord) Taurus, Vrishbha, Venus
3rd House (3rd Lord) Gemini, Mithuna, Mercury
4th House (4th Lord) Cancer, Karaka, Moon
5th House (5th Lord) Leo, Simha, Sun
6th House (6th Lord) Virgo, Kanya, Mercury
7th House (7th Lord) Libra, Tula, Venus
8th House (8th Lord) Scorpio, Vrishchakra, Mars
9th House (9th Lord) Sagittarius, Dhanu, Jupiter
10th House (10th Lord) Capricorn, Makara, Saturn
11th House (11th Lord) Aquarius, Kumbha, Saturn
12th House (12th Lord) Pisces, Meena, Jupiter

This is Vedic Astrology.
Rahu and Ketu in Vedic. Astronomically, they do not exist in the universe.

"Internet Reference"...(When Moon moves from South to North in its orbit and crosses Sun’s path – the incision point is called Rahu or Dragon’s Head. When Moon transits towards South and crosses the Sun’s path – the incision point is called Ketu or Dragon’s Tail. This point is at 180 degree distance from the previously mentioned incision point (Rahu).
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This isn't something that I am at all familiar with, keen to learn anything new however at this stage I know nothing of it. Perhaps I shall have a venture into Vedic astrology
I was helping you to understand what a Lord is. I'm learning Vedic currently as well. Western is my first study. I'm studying both right now. I like learning for the sake of knowledge. My sun and Asc sign (in Western) are both in Sagittarius haha

Here is a link on a youtube channel I frequently watch. This guy is great! Watching videos helps me learn. I'm a visual learner lol. I've learned so much on Vedic from his videos and he is entertaining. Hope this helps honey

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Hey Im hoping for some help navigating my way around my chart with the aim of understanding strong influences and how everything works together. I appreciate any light anyone can shed

Im just trying to understand me really

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With Moon in Virgo and Sun in Scorpio, you are probably very hard on yourself.
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libra asc, artistic aptitudes, social, objective,

wavering decision making, stormy anger when provoked.
asc lord venus debilated 12th self-centred,
possessive spouse, spouse worship perhaps.

jup lord of elevation-pisces for venus conjunct, jup-venus virgo

debilation of venus cancelled, gradual pace of growth,
tending to foreign lands.


jup-moon virgo 11th, perfectionist, critical thinking,
may be choosy about friends,

teaching-facilitating-advisory-audit aptitudes and gains,
pisces 6th inclined to teaching-learning work environments.


leo 11th inimical for libra asc,
income-gains-rewards-friendships
under stress-delay-tension, not smoothgoing


moon 10th lord/cancer over 11th virgo, gains from career,
but under stress-delay, inimical leo cusp.


jup aspect own pisces 6th protective of health
and employment prospects.


jup trine aspect cap 4th affecting domestic comforts,
mother's health, property matters, knees-lungs etc


sat airy acq own 4th, tech aptitude, aptitude for public admin,
reformist, innovative, good for property matters, sat lord 4th too.

sat debilated aspect over aries 7th affecting marriage,
sat aspect leo 10th stress in career matters,
sat aspect scorpio 2nd affecting family-finances


sun-mars-mer scorpio 2nd research-occult aptitudes,

reserved, sentimental, suspicious, volatile finances.


separative ketu over cancer 11th, hypersensitive,
prone to career-job changes.


currently jup transit natal moon-jup-virgo 11th for gains,
promoting teaching-facilitating-advisroy skills-income etc,

sooner now rahu joins jup/moon-virgo tending to rise-fall,
to care yr ahead.

ketu transit pisces 6th prone to health issues, job separation, etc
jup aspect pisces-ketu 6th protective till mid-Aug 016 or so.


wishing luck from 9th lord mer over scorpio 2nd,
research-occult aptitudes, sun-mer-mars scorpio,


sat moved to sag 3rd for initiative-progress coming 2yrs,
sat aspect own acq 5th protective of education-position

but may not be good for health of children,
sat transit sq moon-jup under stress however,
sat aspect moon-jup virgo 11th restraining income-gains.


past 2.5yrs sat transit sun-mer-scorpio 2nd
family-finances etc under stress,
while promoting research-occult interests.


chart with research, teaching-advisory,reformist-innovative aptitudes,
results-rewards under stress-delay-tension, not smooth going,
self-centered, reserved, suspicious, critical,
wavery decision making, stormy anger, objective, love of justice-fairness.


hope generic observations-inputs enable reflect further, pick as relevant,

could share specific feedbacks per return.
hope find insights useful. could share agreements-disagreements.



kshantaram

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First I want to note that I am an amateur, not a "trained eye" as you say, so naturally everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm still learning. I'd be pleased for you to tell me specifically how very wrong I am so that I can learn which techniques are worth my time as I learn.

So first thing, from what I see, you're not a bad person fundamentally. In fact, you are quite good. You have an absolutely remarkably placed Saturn which isn't likely to allow you to be truly bad.

Nonetheless, Saturn is never the nicest planet, and your strongest planets are both Saturn and Mars - whereas the "nice" planets (from a perspective of what humans would like) are not in a good state, especially Venus. It is absolutely trashed. So I really don't think your life is the nicest. Even if it were nice, there would be a severe lack of feeling nurtured in your life, loved or even supported at all. Luckily though, Saturn and Mars still allow you to go on despite that - they make you a fighter through and through. Saturn particularly in this chart is your "saviour."

You're prompt, do your duty and always try and make at least some progress. You do what you have to do. By all respects, you do what is "right"...and yet still, you don't feel wanted or loved despite all that. It is entirely unfair and you feel misdone by for it. This causes constant irritation and even angry outbursts. You try and control things - everything really from your environment right down to stifling your feelings. You have strong ideas about what is right and wrong and want everything and everyone else to match that for you. But they don't. You're harsh on others and even harsher on yourself, making you seem cold hearted and uncaring. It causes arguments and you become a thorn in others sides because they want to avoid those kind of disagreements. You also are not very fond of sharing your money, and have a tendency to be a bit of a scrouge with it (if you can, though at times you may feel like you have to give it to others, it's something you resent). It's not something against others though, you don't even really like to spend money on yourself if you can help it, apart from some very small comforts you can excuse to yourself and are deathly afraid of the future (money, shelter etc wise).

You end up with a kind of mini-infamy in your social life, where people are aware of these issues and thus seem to deny you things and even be weary to be associated at times incase it looks bad on them.

You are a good fighter (physically if you have to, but moreso when it comes to words - and likely much moreso in words because of Saturn and Mars being for the most part decently placed). You can make good, intelligent arguments and possibly even enjoy debate - people do actually listen to you when you speak, might even agree inwardly, but still they don't like it and the way you come across. As said, you do your duty when you have to (though perhaps with an underlying grudge). When you're not dead set in proving to others that your ideas are the right ones, you are a pleasant talker to others. You're not wasteful, have many means of making a livelihood and are good at saving money. You can be relied upon by others if they need you to do something (though not pay for something), and would be good when the chips are down - because you're so used to the chips being down, that is your life. A bit out of place (and very rude of me, really) but according to this chart, you're probably the "cream of the crop" when it comes to your family tree.

Also of importance, very recently (And most importantly within the last few days actually - the major focus has subsided as of yesterday now since I'm late to the party) you've had immense self focus on finding yourself, who you are, what you're supposed to be doing with yourself. This has actually been an issue for the last year and a half or so, but intensified this month, and then found the most focus about 1-4 days ago. There may have been struggles in a relationship (if you have one, or had one) in that last year and a half or so too where you didn't feel as validated by your partner, weren't sure where the relationship was going and really weren't as relationship focused...really just wanting to focus on yourself. Any of those issues that might still be lingering will probably start to die down in about a month (middle of november) if they haven't started already and you should become more open and comfortable in your relationships again.

Anyway, that's a very basic outlook from some of the little I've learned. If it's totally off point feel free to thrash me one. In fact I hope you do. You have an interesting chart.

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Hi ,
I am by no means an expert ,only a student of Vedic Astrology.
As per Vedic Astrology you are not Scorpio sun sign ..your configurations are as follows:
Sun and Jupiter in Libra.
ASC mercury and Saturn in Virgo
Moon venus in Sag
Rahu in Cancer ketu in Capricorn
There is no planet in Scorpio.
Did anyone get these positions for his chart?
What i can say is you are not a bad person . Why you may have a doubt is that you belong to the Nakshatra of Moola which is a severe Nakshatra ruled by Ketu ( largely unpredictable) .you may be forced from a corporate life in previous lifetimes to adopt a family/tribe/group life in this one. You will be close to your land or tribe.You are a very good judge of right/ wrong and will ultimately believe'work is worship'.Do not doubt yourself and follow the path what life offers . You may have a ' cutting' nature ..which may be percieved as cruel .Try to do what is just. Dont harm anyone intentionally. God Bless. Be worry free.Hope this helps.

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I feel like you are asking because you may be prone to Gorey thoughts. You may have some very graphic interests.

I say this because your Saturn and moon are both very young and in conjunction. However that's the only really hard aspect your moon has. These graphic tenancy will probably die off in your 30's. I suggest you do not act on them, obviously.

You have some other characteristics that will probably bring you some difficulty. However your moon is in Virgo- which means you're actually more emotional practical than what your sun sign suggests. If you don't feel emotionally practical, well- you actually are just calm down honey.

Also you have nothing in your 3rd quadrant- the houses of others. So you really do not need others- and only 2 planets in your 3rd quandrants. You soul lies with yourself and your mind lies as a socialite of sorts.

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Hi, I had a moderate-sized post typed up about Virgo in the 12th house, Saturn-square-Sun, and Virgo Moon, but the heart of my post was about how excited I got seeing that your ascendant is my Sun sign, and your Sun sign is my ascendant. That, and the progressed chart for my 24th year of life is Nov 1st, which is your birthday, and I turned 24, well, 24 days ago. So maybe there's something I've recently experienced (or will experience?) that you can relate to, or vice versa. And lastly, you have Mars and Pluto in Scorpio which I just think is a really cool placement...

As other's have said, you're not a bad person, you're probably just very hard on yourself. I find that positive affirmations, to actively replace any negative thoughts you're having, works well. Fight words with words! Or in this case, thoughts with thoughts. Meditation is great, too, because you can become a "passenger" and just listen/observe your mind, without reacting emotionally.

Something else I just noticed... planets in the 2nd house are supposed to indicate talents. With a whopping 5 planets in your 2nd house and in Scorpio, you probably have a wealth of talents you can pull from to help others. (I have 4 planets in the 12th house, which can indicate hidden talents, and from experience those are not as easy to own). That'll make your Virgo Moon and 12th house really happy. Just be careful not to overwork yourself or let others take advantage of you. You can only help others if they want to be helped, and if it is within your will to do so.
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