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JUPITERASC

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Many thanx to Lady Waybread and Blaze for kind comments!

Probably the best thread about the math of the Cosmos that i wrote on, was a thread called "Quintiles" by Stellium6th on Aspects & Configurations, i start writing half way down first page!

In the end because we were going off topic, moderator gave a warning, you could ask Stellium6 if he minded the thread being moved to Hot Topic Arena, to continue concerning off topic debate?


Hi Jup,

I have more titanium metal rods and screws in my back than the Terminator, all i need is the red eyes, Ha Ha!

A bottle of 20 year old Talisker would make me have the red eyes, but the bossy nurses will not let me have it!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talisker_distillery

However The Terminator isn't horrifying when he wears a diaper lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RausYbOfQ

Hi Monk
:smile:
linking to that thread for Blaze et al

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=668549&postcount=18
I don't comment regarding Quintiles by astrology but i will by science, it is only a theory
but some astronomers think the universe is made up of joined up pentagons
forming a dodecahedron

link below:-

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2003/oct/08/is-the-universe-a-dodecahedron

Funnily Plato believed that the Dodecahedron represented the Universe
also, link below:-


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solid

In math regarding Phi or the Golden Ratio, the visual way to show it can be a pentacle
or pentagon, and the Golden Ratio has been found in the Quantum world:-


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107143909.htm

However this is probably going off topic so i'd better shut up ha ha!
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Monk

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Hi Jup,

A lot of secrets regarding classical beliefs are that Phi is God in math, my own observations are they could be right, people make things or buildings in shapes or measurements to replicate this like the Pentagon!

Phi or the golden ratio can be shown as 5^.5*.5+.5 all fives, as shown below:-

https://www.goldennumber.net/five-phi/

Which is why the Washington Monument is 555 feet 5 inches tall in symbolism, link below :-

https://www.nps.gov/wamo/learn/historyculture/index.htm
 

JUPITERASC

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Hi Jup,

A lot of secrets regarding classical beliefs
are that Phi is God in math, my own observations are they could be right
people make things or buildings in shapes or measurements to replicate this
like the Pentagon!

Phi or the golden ratio can be shown as 5^.5*.5+.5 all fives, as shown below:-


https://www.goldennumber.net/five-phi/

Which is why the Washington Monument is 555 feet 5 inches tall in symbolism, link below :-

https://www.nps.gov/wamo/learn/historyculture/index.htm
Hi Monk :smile:

With famous historical structures, such as the National Gallery in London
the use of the Golden Section
gives rise to buildings that are both stable and aesthetically pleasing.



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Credit: tj.blackwell
 

waybread

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And then there are fractals.....

Hey Monk, re: the attachment. Wish you were here. On the island of Skye? Wish I were there.
 

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Monk

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waybread

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Monk, thanks for the links. At the time you posted some of your mathematical threads, I promised to digest them, but got scared off by the math. (Having stopped my math studies after 9th grade algebra, due to severe math anxiety.) I need to try harder, maybe starting with a few baby steps, like the book Is God a Mathematician?, which my husband informs me he has in his collection.

When you have a moment-- what is your take on Pythagoras? So much basic astrology seems to be based on his number system.
 

Monk

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waybread

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I was aware of the amazing patterns of the Venus orbit-- thanks. Just don't know why.

Monk, how would you explain this? Your underlying view of the cosmos?
 

Monk

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Hi Waybread,

All equations can be put on graphs, it is more pleasing to show the actual shapes that come from this, this can be confusing, as different shapes can come up in looking at the Fibonacci Sequence, Golden Spiral, and Phi that are all related.

The reason that the Venus orbit looks like it has loops from Earth is an illusion, due to retrograde motion, yet when we look at all nature Phi is linked to everything:-

www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/03/fractals-for-food.html
 

Monk

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waybread

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Monk, as a person of faith (though in a pretty ideosyncratic personal way) I have no problem with believing in a God who set certain patterns in motion, in different phenomena, at different scales.

I loved the vegetable pictures. (Beautiful to look at, and no higher math.)

One thing I learned from some long-ago biology classes that dealt with evolution, however, is Darwin's theory of natural selection. Apologies if you know all this. Essentially, if a species has an adaptation to its environment that makes it better suited to survive and reproduce, and if it can and does survive and reproduce, thus passing its adaptation down through its progeny, then that species probably has a viable future for itself. Sometimes, however, species will pass on a mutation that doesn't seem to confer greater survivability, but it doesn't harm it, either.

So I look at something like fractals, with branching vein patterns in leaves, or I look at the common 5-petaled flower across plant genera that aren't even related. I see branching patterns in streams and rivers that aren't at all related to leaves. There are Venus-earth-sun orbital patterns that describe a pentagram that have nothing to do with wild roses.

This leaves vague, unanswered (by me) question about natural selection. I can see, for example, that a veined leaf pattern is an efficient water & nutrient delivery system for a tree. Just like our circulatory system. But a stream as a physical feature isn't into this stuff. It's not a species. And then whatever common ancestor humans and trees might have had at the dawn of life on earth, we diverged long before mammals and vascular plants evolved. Perhaps a 5-petaled flower is extra-efficient at attracting pollinators. But Venus doesn't operate by the Darwinian calculus.

It's the cross-genre patterns that get to me.
 

Monk

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Hi Waybread,

Yes, i can see your point, however orbs in astrology work the same way, not being exact but mutations of aspects,but show a straight line between planets.

Some wouldn't name Phi as a fractal, being geometry without orbs as discussed on link below:-

https://math.stackexchange.com/ques...or-are-spirals-in-general-fractals-if-not-why

Perhaps it is why the black cardioid appears so much without transparency in the Mandelbrot set, as it take Phi to see inside!

Obviously all wonder how to define living things, like solid matter, but phi has been found even in this, perhaps an extra unexplored part of chaos theory:-

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107143909.htm
 

waybread

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Monk, thanks. Since this is a black humour thread, I was looking for wheelchair cartoons to send you while I pondered the math, but the cartoons actually weren't funny. About the best joke was the woman in a wheelchair who said she became an atheist when she learned there was a stairway to heaven.

(Not that funny, I know.)

But you're not an atheist if I read your posts correctly.

Religious history has been noticeably unkind to people who try to second-guess God. Nevertheless.... You've demonstrated the what, but do you understand the why?
 
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