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Unread 12-14-2018, 11:40 AM
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Mars in Pisces opposition both my Sun and Jupiter conjunction and trine my moon in Scorpio. I can be very assertive when the need be. Also very impatient with a touch of combative temper when provoked. Other than that a really nice guy

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Mars in Capricorn very loosely conjunct Neptune in 4th. This placement is one of my biggest prides in my chart.

I can't say that I'm overly ambitious (nor do I wish to be to be honest) nor am I intimidating, it's just that I can work long hours non-stop and push out quality work while others may have an hourly coffee/smoke break. My sister who's also a Cappie Mars is the same. I'm able to stand up for myself when I'm hard done by and I won't allow anyone to walk all over me ever. Also, I never get sucked in by sales-speak. That being said, I am easy to work with and never boss people around. I wouldn't say I'm particularly assertive, I'm actually even a bit passive. I'm only assertive when I feel I'm being sc r ewe d over.

Due to my small size and meek appearance, I've had a person or two assess me and evidently conclude that I was a pushover. They were even a bit condescending towards me and thought they could coerce me into making a hasty decision (for their benefit of course) via fear mongering and manipulation.

BOY. WERE. THEY. WRONG.

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Re: What is your mars like and how assertive are you?

I have Mars in Gemini in the 12th house. I'm not very good at being direct, but I will get my point across very clearly (and usually angrily) if I'm pushed to. Someone somewhere once said you have to have your wits about you for Mars in 12th house people and I find that to be true. I am way more comfortable with Water people for this reason because they can sense what I can't express very well.
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If in everyday life, not assertive at all. Taurus peacefulness shows thorough. Don't wish to bother with trivialities so no reaction. Can be mis-interpreted by others as passiveness but its really just laziness and conservation of energy.
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Def. slow to get started. Learned how to "trick" myself to get myself to do things I don't want to do.

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Summary: taurus mars = seem passive, really a boulder, nuclear if over-pushed.

I also have Mars in Taurus. I seem very unassertive but I do push back when other people have been misusing me too much.

My Mars is in conjunction with Mercury.
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I'm an Aries rising and my mars is in gemini squaring saturn in virgo. I feel that square very strongly in the sense that I want to go into things forcefully and quickly, but saturn limits that expression and frustrates me, forcing me to be more thorough and structured. Given that my mars is in gemini, I assert myself better when communicating an idea and I tend to enjoy debates where I can prove that my ideas are better. But I am not as assertive in normal daily life.
Do you mind telling us how exact the square between your Mars and Saturn is? I have a very similar placement as you do, with Mars in Gemini and Saturn in Virgo, however in my case they do not form a square by degree, only by sign. They are too far apart.

I feel that a Mars-Saturn square can really make things difficult for the native. Has this been your experience?
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Unread 01-02-2019, 04:28 AM
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Re: What is your mars like and how assertive are you?

mars in pisces square pluto... needless to say, i have a VERY hard time asserting myself and my libra rising doesnít help, and i have been realizing lately that i channel my bottled up anger at myself which in the past has resulted in very self destructive tendencies.
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Re: What is your mars like and how assertive are you?

Mars in Cancer in the 9th, tightly conjunct MC and Mercury. Aspects galore... Square Libra Asc, opposite Neptune, sextile Virgo Moon, trine Pluto, square North Node. All tight aspects, at most a 3 degree orb. Through my Aries Descendant, Mars is the ruler of my 7th house. North Node, Vertex and Jupiter are also in Aries.

Being assertive is something I'm trying to learn and struggling a fair bit with. I am assertive only when it comes to voicing my opinions and defending my values, otherwise I tend to yield. I abhor confrontation, so even when voicing an opinion I'm very open to compromise. There are some values that I'll stand up for until my dying day though.

I'll take the lead only if I'm clearly more competent than others at the task in question. Usually when I take the lead it is a practical matter or something that takes organization skills to sort through. I'm always happier if I can yield leadership to someone else though. In particular areas of expertise I can be unyieldingly assertive though... nobody puts baby in a corner when I'm the expert in the room.

I might be more assertive in presence than in personality... I am very self-confident despite my lack of assertion. I do what I enjoy without care for what other people think, dress how I like (fairly eccentric), am bold about who I am in general. Open to the point of bluntness about my identity... I just don't generally care to assert myself over anyone else.

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Re: What is your mars like and how assertive are you?

I'm not going to discuss my chart with strangers, especially astrologers at a forum online, but I am here to discuss astrology, and here we are discussing Mars and assertiveness.

Mars is most assertive with significant Mars/Uranus contacts followed by Mars/Pluto. Mars/Pluto is more intense, but more reserved. Mars/Uranus is not reserved.

Mars conjunct Asc., MC, Desc., IC or aspecting the midpoint of any of these is assertive. They will respond in kind to aggression, or they may be aggressors. Of course, they can be other things like sportsmen or activists or engineers or leaders. Mars trine these points doesn't generally pick a fight, but look out, they don't back down, and they aren't inclined to lose a fight. If you are a jerk or a bully, you'd better find another victim.

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Re: What is your mars like and how assertive are you?

Thank you for this thread! It is actually exactly why I just joined this community.

Scorpio sun / Aries moon, with Mars in Capricorn (exalted) exactly conjunct sun-moon midpoint, in the 8th. Sextile to Saturn in Scorpio, forming a yod with my ascendant. I know many astrologers do not consider the ascendant as part of a yod... I'm interested to know anyone's thoughts on this.

I have Venus exactly opposite my Ascendant. I do feel like this configuration plays out as a major theme/lesson in my life. Asc-Venus opposition makes me want to "play nice" with everyone, don't make any waves, always put on a smile, etc. But I feel like my Mars is pretty fierce but somewhat repressed. I'm super intense (Scorpio stellium) and people feel it when I enter the room. I can just feel everyone sort of tense up and it has caused me to compensate and go all meek and mild, show how harmless I am (or am I? ) which is rather easy with my Venus. But it does nothing to actually negate the simmering beneath the surface. I feel like I'm constantly trying to negotiate that balance but it never comes out quite right. If I'm assertive at all, it usually comes across as aggressive, even though I'm consciously trying to be calmly/kindly assertive.

That was a bit of a ramble! I'd greatly appreciate anyone's thoughts. Anyone have similar stuff happening?
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Re: What is your mars like and how assertive are you?

I have Mars in Capricorn Sun. I have libra asc.

I feel more comfortable showing my anger around immediate family that I live with as opposed to the Ďoutside worldí. Well ppl that Iím really comfortable around. Unless somethings simmering inside then it blows up leo moon style. But yeah my Mars in cap - organised at home with all the family affairs etc. Fiery kind a lady however unless you get to know me you would think Iím timid or placid.

Pluto first house squares Mars - still not quite sure how or what thatís all about.

Does anyone else have the same type of thing going on?
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Unread 07-23-2019, 04:35 PM
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Thank you for this thread! It is actually exactly why I just joined this community.

Scorpio sun / Aries moon, with Mars in Capricorn (exalted) exactly conjunct sun-moon midpoint, in the 8th. Sextile to Saturn in Scorpio, forming a yod with my ascendant. I know many astrologers do not consider the ascendant as part of a yod... I'm interested to know anyone's thoughts on this.

I have Venus exactly opposite my Ascendant. I do feel like this configuration plays out as a major theme/lesson in my life. Asc-Venus opposition makes me want to "play nice" with everyone, don't make any waves, always put on a smile, etc. But I feel like my Mars is pretty fierce but somewhat repressed. I'm super intense (Scorpio stellium) and people feel it when I enter the room. I can just feel everyone sort of tense up and it has caused me to compensate and go all meek and mild, show how harmless I am (or am I? ) which is rather easy with my Venus. But it does nothing to actually negate the simmering beneath the surface. I feel like I'm constantly trying to negotiate that balance but it never comes out quite right. If I'm assertive at all, it usually comes across as aggressive, even though I'm consciously trying to be calmly/kindly assertive.

That was a bit of a ramble! I'd greatly appreciate anyone's thoughts. Anyone have similar stuff happening?
Mars in cap must be the suppression as I feel this way especially in and around the unfamiliar and oh my ..... aggressive when all your doing is being assertive!!! Your intention is assertiveness and everyone around you looks and thinks you have FIRE 🔥
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Unread 07-23-2019, 04:40 PM
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Mars in Capricorn very loosely conjunct Neptune in 4th. This placement is one of my biggest prides in my chart.

I can't say that I'm overly ambitious (nor do I wish to be to be honest) nor am I intimidating, it's just that I can work long hours non-stop and push out quality work while others may have an hourly coffee/smoke break. My sister who's also a Cappie Mars is the same. I'm able to stand up for myself when I'm hard done by and I won't allow anyone to walk all over me ever. Also, I never get sucked in by sales-speak. That being said, I am easy to work with and never boss people around. I wouldn't say I'm particularly assertive, I'm actually even a bit passive. I'm only assertive when I feel I'm being sc r ewe d over.

Due to my small size and meek appearance, I've had a person or two assess me and evidently conclude that I was a pushover. They were even a bit condescending towards me and thought they could coerce me into making a hasty decision (for their benefit of course) via fear mongering and manipulation.

BOY. WERE. THEY. WRONG.
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Unread 07-23-2019, 04:45 PM
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Conspiracy Theorist,
Iím not totally surprised about what you wrote of Libra. Just from my personal experience with Libras they never seem to be doormats, but often use fairly sophisticated manipulations to achieve their power. Pretty aggressive in their own way, just not in the Aries way.

The main difference appears to be that they are more socially integrated and aware. A lot of what they do is for the good of the larger community or with the benefit of more than themselves in mind. So I guess I like to think of learning Libra lessons in that way, possibly more than my own sense of being vulnerable and yielding or not, but just in keeping more than myself and my own needs at the forefront
Libras keep it balanced and justified- morals
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I have Mars conjunct Saturn in Scorpio.
When I am passionate about something, whether is art or sports I give in my all. Few examples, I have represented my school to compete in rhythmic gymnastics (I didn't win though). I can spend at least 3 hours or more like 5 in the gym, daily if I want to, it is usually when I am doing something fun like rhythmic gymnastic, just treadmill and dumbbells bores me. My husband say I am crazy for spending such long hours in the gym. But I think I have got the stamina (friends say so).... If I want it, I enjoy working hard for it without complains and just keep pushing and pushing myself and see how far I can go.
I studied a foreign language to its highest level (not full score). I do art and win awards. I worked like a horse. Sorry if this sounded like bragging but is just really what happened. This aspect can be very consuming of my whole being. It's time, energy, sleeps deprived, like an addiction, absorption and obsession to perfection, to achieving, to accomplishing... I think this is due to Scorpio's passion. Well, when you are passionate about something you enjoy the process of it. But in the case of workhorse, my past occupation is really killing me due to its demands it has affected my health. So yeah, now I changed field and is great, I can finally rest and be stress free most of the time.

When it comes to anger. In the past, I bottle up a loooot but I think I somewhat fixed this issue now and let it come out as in like verbally fight for my rights and not let people push me around. People around me are so shocked now that I dare to reason with them and/or fight back, lol.

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Mars in Cancer and Iím extremely aggressive if I get angry I Usually Go into full rage mode an Aries Mars once tried to punk me I guess he thought I would be scared or something and I embarrassed him and left him speechless. I think itís because I have sun square mars or I have mutual reception with my moon. I honestly donít get it I see everybody say how MIC is passive agressive and I just donít relate to that I donít think Iíve ever been that way, if I feel like somebodyís taking advantage of me or threatening me, then I handle it, and if it gets physical then I fear for my enemies. Maybe itís just me..

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Mars in Cancer and Iím extremely aggressive if I get angry I Usually Go into full rage mode an Aries Mars once tried to punk me I guess he thought I would be scared or something and I embarrassed him and left him speechless. I think itís because I have sun square mars or I have mutual reception with my moon. I honestly donít get it I see everybody say how MIC is passive agressive and I just donít relate to that I donít think Iíve ever been that way, if I feel like somebodyís taking advantage of me or threatening me, then I handle it, and if it gets physical then I fear for my enemies. Maybe itís just me..
I totally relate. I think it's cos of the squares that makes us aggressive, cos for me, mars in virgo 11th house should not be aggressive. I have health problems cos im irritated easily and get angry, releasing too much cortisol.
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I totally relate. I think it's cos of the squares that makes us aggressive, cos for me, mars in virgo 11th house should not be aggressive. I have health problems cos im irritated easily and get angry, releasing too much cortisol.
Nice to know Iím not the only one lol what squares do you have? And are you a lunar Scorpio too? I have sun square mars mars opposite Uranus sun square Uranus. Moon trine mars mars trine pluto moon conjunct pluto. My guess is one of those aspects makes me completely different than the sterotype MIC
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Nice to know I’m not the only one lol what squares do you have? And are you a lunar Scorpio too? I have sun square mars mars opposite Uranus sun square Uranus. Moon trine mars mars trine pluto moon conjunct pluto. My guess is one of those aspects makes me completely different than the sterotype MIC
im asc scorpio. have mars square uranus and jupiter. my mums mars squares sun jupiter and uranus, and my son has mars square uranus. all 3 of us are internally volatile with little irritants. we dont hurt ppl but we scream and our brains explode. im doing tests for adrenal issues riht now cos dr thinks i have hypercortisolism due to this. our bodies just dont do well with stress. my twin daughters were expposed to the same situations as my son yet its like aggressive situations are invisible to them and their mars has harmonious aspects. my son, mum and i usually use physical outlet for frustration but i dont think thats healthy. im turning to humour instead these days.

also, my mum and sons mars is in capricorn. i noticed they are both fatherly, masculine and protective over me, which is great cos my real father was absent and weak. so i wonder, with your mars in cancer, do u find yourself protective in a motherly way?
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im asc scorpio. have mars square uranus and jupiter. my mums mars squares sun jupiter and uranus, and my son has mars square uranus. all 3 of us are internally volatile with little irritants. we dont hurt ppl but we scream and our brains explode. im doing tests for adrenal issues riht now cos dr thinks i have hypercortisolism due to this. our bodies just dont do well with stress. my twin daughters were expposed to the same situations as my son yet its like aggressive situations are invisible to them and their mars has harmonious aspects. my son, mum and i usually use physical outlet for frustration but i dont think thats healthy. im turning to humour instead these days.

also, my mum and sons mars is in capricorn. i noticed they are both fatherly, masculine and protective over me, which is great cos my real father was absent and weak. so i wonder, with your mars in cancer, do u find yourself protective in a motherly way?
Oh yeah I can definitely relate to the screaming itís either I scream throw something or fight lol mars square Uranus definitely gives anger problems from what Iíve heard I have the opposition and itís difficult to control my temper, for me I find that itís better if I release it then to hold it in and let it build and then I explode. They say that people with squares need to find outlet to release their temper, as for you question I do find myself very protective but not necessarily in a motherly way but just protective for ones I care about if anybody does something to somebody I deeply care about it wonít be pretty. I also stand up for those that are bullied I canít stand bullies so also wind up fighting for people who arenít asserting themselves, that might be my aries tho lol
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Oh yeah I can definitely relate to the screaming itís either I scream throw something or fight lol mars square Uranus definitely gives anger problems from what Iíve heard I have the opposition and itís difficult to control my temper, for me I find that itís better if I release it then to hold it in and let it build and then I explode. They say that people with squares need to find outlet to release their temper, as for you question I do find myself very protective but not necessarily in a motherly way but just protective for ones I care about if anybody does something to somebody I deeply care about it wonít be pretty. I also stand up for those that are bullied I canít stand bullies so also wind up fighting for people who arenít asserting themselves, that might be my aries tho lol
Lol id love to have you in my corner . Yeah re built up anger ill give u example about this morning. 3 of my kids are screaming about their own concerns whilst im trying to give instruction to one of them and he's not listening. I repeat two more times and he doesn't listen whilst the other two are trying to scream over to get heard, asking me to do something. the fourth voice i hear trying to come in from the bedroom is my husband. i cant hear anything he's saying. i take a few deep breaths cos of the repetition of four ppl screaming im not listening to them. i go to see what my husband so urgently wants to tell me after trying to overpower the kids screaming, and all he wanted to do was boss me around and tell me to do a couple things. I snapped and said 'FAR OUT, I KNOW, DUH!!!! Stop bossing me around.' Like when questions or tasks repeat itself in a bossy manner it's highly irritable to me and i just scream shut the f up, one at a time. However, my twins who have well aspected mars, they dont fight back at all, they just curl up into a ball.
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And i was just thinking about yesterday. I went to my mum's house to pick her up for hydro. I had a cup of water and she was going on about how i dirtied another cup for her, that i already have two dirty cups. I told her the two cups were from the previous weeks i had been there. she continued to complain. i told her what she was saying was insane and didnt make any sense. she continued to go on about the cups and i kept telling her im not going to drink from my dirty cup from a week ago, that's just crazy. she didnt back down and my voice raised and i called crazy. so we got in the car not talking. i couldnt handle that nonsense about an effing cup. i sped around the corners and drove faster, all caused by irritation. at the pool i ignored her for 10 mins before cooling down and then we were back to normal again. sometimes it escalates into more nonsense and anger that we dont talk for a week. I cant stand nonsense.
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You also said something about releasing squares and oppositions? I have definitely found using a midpoint can help. Like, when t uranus kept opposing my libra planets, i learnt that being a funny, joyful, positive, optimistic sag detonated the abuse coming from my in laws (uranus).
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Lol id love to have you in my corner . Yeah re built up anger ill give u example about this morning. 3 of my kids are screaming about their own concerns whilst im trying to give instruction to one of them and he's not listening. I repeat two more times and he doesn't listen whilst the other two are trying to scream over to get heard, asking me to do something. the fourth voice i hear trying to come in from the bedroom is my husband. i cant hear anything he's saying. i take a few deep breaths cos of the repetition of four ppl screaming im not listening to them. i go to see what my husband so urgently wants to tell me after trying to overpower the kids screaming, and all he wanted to do was boss me around and tell me to do a couple things. I snapped and said 'FAR OUT, I KNOW, DUH!!!! Stop bossing me around.' Like when questions or tasks repeat itself in a bossy manner it's highly irritable to me and i just scream shut the f up, one at a time. However, my twins who have well aspected mars, they dont fight back at all, they just curl up into a ball.
Omg its crazy you said this because one of my biggest pet peeves is when someone tells me to do something that Iím already doing, Iím easily irritated as well good for you for standing up for yourself. It makes me wonder you said your kids donít fight back and they have well aspected mars although I donít know the exact aspect maybe itís cause they have easy energy like trines. I currently am owed money by somebody and like I said earlier before I do not like when people take advantage of me and my hands are shaking as Iím writing this lol because this person is really trying my patience and the more I try to not think about it the more my aries sun is pushing my mars to do something it normally wouldnít feel comfortable doing by itself.
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You also said something about releasing squares and oppositions? I have definitely found using a midpoint can help. Like, when t uranus kept opposing my libra planets, i learnt that being a funny, joyful, positive, optimistic sag detonated the abuse coming from my in laws (uranus).
Are you referring to T-Square I have one of those all the planets are squaring my aries sun I read somewhere that whatever the squared planet is then that energy is multiplied which can explain why I can really lose my cool at times they say the missing sign is how you what you need resolve to problems in my case the missing sign is libra so I need to stop being so impulsive and make more reasonable decisions.
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Are you referring to T-Square I have one of those all the planets are squaring my aries sun I read somewhere that whatever the squared planet is then that energy is multiplied which can explain why I can really lose my cool at times they say the missing sign is how you what you need resolve to problems in my case the missing sign is libra so I need to stop being so impulsive and make more reasonable decisions.
What do u mean by missing sign?

As for my twins, they have mars in virgo sextile sun & mercury in scorpio (10th), trine jupiter in cancer (5th). They might say hey that's not fair and negotiate, but they are fairly obedient. And when my son comes along they give way cos he's too strong and they go in their room and play instead. They have no fighting power whatsoever.

My mother in law is a highly abusive POS. She has a lot of harmonious aspects too but her mars conjunct sun makes her strong.
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