Do you believe in God?

ezgi

Active member
Having saturn in the 9th house person i now understand that i did'nt really believe in God until i realized how God's been dealing with us in our smallest problem. After my son's birth i did have lots of pain both pyhscological and relational (husband, family etc.) I had lots of time paying attention in the smallest detail around me since i was left alone by everybody.And i realized that everything you do returns to you, whether good or bad ;quick or late. And in the same way (not resembling) you see your past deed's reults. If you have pain in the hand of someone he/she gets the same pain in somebodyelse's hand.

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Natasha

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Each Culture and civilisation / ethnicity have their own image/s of the divine
Is there a common theme? That is the question which Joseph Campbell and many others I am sure have postulated.
It is the great mystery of the universe which no science can answer

It appears that there are archetypes which run through the different religions and spiritual beliefs and the archetypes may even change through the ages.

Some say its connected to the great years current astrological sign. Currently we are in the age of pisces and heading to the cusp of acquarius.

The hero archetype seems to flow thru recent ages. The myth of the hero who is born to a virgin by a divine father and has to endure 'labours' to become the hero. Examples are Hercules and of course Jesus Christ. But there are many other examples.

There seem to be two threads of the divine currently the earth based (understood and practiced by indigenous peoples and others and currently resurged in various societies on earth today) and the monotheistic sky god archetype and various other divinities in between ie sharing some of both themes.

Its very interesting and leads me to recall what a dear friend of mine once said. It does not matter which spirituality / religion one follows its more better tho that we do believe or accept or honor in some way one or many rather than have none. As far as it goes I feel that is positive for me

When I go to Asia eg China Taiwan Korea Japan and see the temples and the people lighting incense it is food for thought that they worship or honor many deighties and somehow it all seems to work.

In my country Australia there is a lot of emphasis on secularism and replacing religion with science where its an either or scenario. I tend to not agree with this for me personally. I feel that the divine and the profane both can exist for me
 

JUPITERASC

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Domna

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I don't belive in a god, or any other such higher power. I consider myself atheist. I'm not completely a-spiritual though. I guess if pressed to put a name to it, I'd say I have animist beliefs. I believe nature and all living things have spiritual essence, soul if you will... But I don't believe that the world or anything in it is created by a higher power, or that there are any devine beings that have power over us or our lives.

To be perfectly honest, I don't really believe in astrology either, for me it's an interesting thought experiment, a stimulating pastime... not something I put much stock in. I can't completely dismiss it though, it hits a bit too close at times, and who am I to say that there isn't some sort of world soul out there connecting us all to the stars and the stars to us.
 
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JUPITERASC

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I don't belive in a god, or any other such higher power. I consider myself atheist. I'm not completely a-spiritual though. I guess if pressed to put a name to it, I'd say I have animist beliefs. I believe nature and all living things have spiritual essence, soul if you will... But I don't believe that the world or anything in it is created by a higher power, or that there are any devine beings that have power over us or our lives.

To be perfectly honest, I don't really believe in astrology either, for me it's an interesting thought experiment, a stimulating pastime... not something I put much stock in. I can't completely dismiss it though, it hits a bit too close at times, and who am I to say that there isn't some sort of world soul out there connecting us all to the stars and the stars to us.



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Blaze

Account Closed
I take this approach when it comes to any deity(s) and the like,

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

― Marcus Aurelius

Reading the Tibetan book of the dead (an odd choice for a name, in my opinion) has added to that saying.
 
I believe in the supreme existence of god who has created us, one who gives us rays of hope when we are in the darkest of sheds. I believe in God and that whatever God does will be for the best of me and my fellow beings.
However, I fail to convince my belief to fall for the lords who think polluting a river will bring us good luck. Or that harming yourself is a way of swearing allegiance to some form of god. No, I fail to believe the god that humans quote as the reason for killing other humans.
 

Opal

Premium Member
I do not believe in a Mono God/singular.

I enjoy the theory from The Nag Hamadi's on The Creation of Adam where 365 entities all gave a part of themselves to create Adam. The stars and the planets, the cosmos is my God.
 

petosiris

Banned
there is only one god. the messiah yeshua is the image of invisible god. the rest is commentary. because of a sudden supernatural experience i had while reading the scriptures and after conversations with christians, i choose to repent of astrology and other secret arts, which i believe are idolatry.
 

petosiris

Banned
I do not believe in a Mono God/singular.

I enjoy the theory from The Nag Hamadi's on The Creation of Adam where 365 entities all gave a part of themselves to create Adam. The stars and the planets, the cosmos is my God.

Who looks more trustworthy - the prophets Moses and Isaiah, or a random 4th century Borborite text that says to worship a creation?
 

Opal

Premium Member
Who looks more trustworthy - the prophets Moses and Isaiah, or a random 4th century Borborite text that says to worship a creation?

I do not believe it is about trust. It is about faith. And I definitely do not prefer Wycliffe’s version of the Nag Hamadi’s.

It is why it is called faith. You have your free will and choice to believe in yours, and I enjoy the same choice.

Lilith’s name isn’t even mentioned in The Bible.

Petosiris, you could no more change my faith than I could change yours.

Uranus Leo in the 9th.....tightly aspecting Mercury, Ascendant, and Jupiter.

How do you astrologically describe yours?
 

petosiris

Banned
I do not believe it is about trust. It is about faith. And I definitely do not prefer Wycliffe’s version of the Nag Hamadi’s.

It is why it is called faith. You have your free will and choice to believe in yours, and I enjoy the same choice.

Again, I am not sure if we speak of the same kind of faith. Here is the NIV translation of Hebrews 11.

1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.” For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. 11 And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12 And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

17 By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, 18 even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.

20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.

21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.

23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.

24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. 26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. 27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. 28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.

29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.

31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.

32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.

39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
 
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