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conspiracy theorist

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So nothing having to do with sexy Pluto? :(

And nothing to do with the death or illness of family members either?

Was it an unexpected birth or pregnancy in your family? The only 5th house I see is Mars - but Uranus is conjunct Saturn in the 3rd house (siblings) and with the Moon being so prominent, I keep thinking it must have had something to do with your family...

Or maybe the destruction (Pluto/Mars) of your home (Moon)?
That would honestly be my first guess because I'd assume there'd be a loss of resources (saturn in the 8th) there too.
Or maybe you couldn't afford to live in the place you were living anymore and had to move?

But you also said I was way off so maybe it doesn't have anything to do with family at all

Some sort of psychic attack or sleep paralysis experience, as AppLeo said, would also make sense now that I think about it.

In addition to everything I just said, Jupiter (widely - separating) conjuncts natal Mercury in the 12th house which could indicate a message given to you in a dream... I would think a more positive one though. Some kind of spiritual awakening? That lead to a transformation in your self-perception (Pluto-Ascendant conjunction)

Sound astrological reasoning and it makes sense...but this is not what occurred at the time. I can see that Pluto on the ascendant is very compelling but bare in mind that Pluto is a long term transit and it's effects wouldn't hit me all on one day. All of the houses of the transits could gear ones mind toward spirituality (especially with Placidus houses) but this was not the nature of the event either.

The event was much more mundane. On the day I won 2 1st place awards at the month long football camp (soccer) that I was attending. For my efforts I also won a new gaming phone (That I never used but nonetheless was proud of)

So, how does this apply to the astrology? I actually think whole signs captures this better than placidus.

Mercury is natural 10th in whole sign (accolades/exposure). Venus is MC ruler.

T. Jupiter was conjunct Mercury (widely conjunct the Sun) - Jupiter has significance to success.

T. Sun trining both Mercury (10th WS ruler) and Sun (natural sig. for publicity/kingship)

T. Sun was partile sextiling the MC

T. Venus was trining natal Venus (and T. Venus was located in the 10th - MC ruler in the 10th shows the increase in status.

And in regard to the Moon (who traditionally is seen as triggering events). Not only is it in Sagittarius in the day (interesting things always happen to me on Sag Moon days) it makes its way over Venus over the course of the day. The Moon touching Venus that day would indicate some action related to Venus' function in the chart (one of which is public reputation)

A perfect storm and it was a great day too. It's the second time the whole sign chart gave the more accurate reading.
 

conspiracy theorist

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I will interpret JupiterAscendant's chart later (I'm kind of busy and with the amount of work I need to get done, probably shouldn't be using this site at all...) but if anyone else wants to take a stab at it (CT??), you're welcome to

Meanwhile, I'll post my friend's Solar Return chart from 2015-16 which you're all welcome to interpret :) Some big things happened that year.

Would've been nice if you posted the natal for comparison.
 

craft94

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Sound astrological reasoning and it makes sense...but this is not what occurred at the time. I can see that Pluto on the ascendant is very compelling but bare in mind that Pluto is a long term transit and it's effects wouldn't hit me all on one day. All of the houses of the transits could gear ones mind toward spirituality (especially with Placidus houses) but this was not the nature of the event either.

That's true, but I reasoned that the Moon being conjunct Pluto on that particular day would strengthen it's effects.

The event was much more mundane. On the day I won 2 1st place awards at the month long football camp (soccer) that I was attending. For my efforts I also won a new gaming phone (That I never used but nonetheless was proud of)

So, how does this apply to the astrology? I actually think whole signs captures this better than placidus.

Mercury is natural 10th in whole sign (accolades/exposure). Venus is MC ruler.

T. Jupiter was conjunct Mercury (widely conjunct the Sun) - Jupiter has significance to success.

T. Sun trining both Mercury (10th WS ruler) and Sun (natural sig. for publicity/kingship)

T. Sun was partile sextiling the MC

T. Venus was trining natal Venus (and T. Venus was located in the 10th - MC ruler in the 10th shows the increase in status.

And in regard to the Moon (who traditionally is seen as triggering events). Not only is it in Sagittarius in the day (interesting things always happen to me on Sag Moon days) it makes its way over Venus over the course of the day. The Moon touching Venus that day would indicate some action related to Venus' function in the chart (one of which is public reputation)

A perfect storm and it was a great day too. It's the second time the whole sign chart gave the more accurate reading.

Yeah I would have never guessed that! Makes sense though.
 

conspiracy theorist

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@JA

For your chart, did a sibling leave the country?

T. Mars has just entered whole sign 9th on the day - 9th house deals with international travel.

Mars natally rules the 3rd house of brothers and sisters. T. Moon is located in the house triggering 3rd house events/people - 3rd house also deals with travel.

Natal Mars is located in the 12th house - 12th house deals with faraway places/"exile" - so a potential natal "promise" would be that siblings "go faraway" -they travel a lot, undertake spiritual practices, or get locked up.
 

craft94

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JUPITERASC

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I'm kind of busy atm (I'm supposed to be writing an essay)
but I'll be back later to give it another try.
How's the essay writing going and what's the topic - anything that interests you? :smile:
One more transit chart for you to try out.
What happened on this day?

I wouldn't say this one is straightforward
27 July 2007 11th House profection year
interesting both charts are 11th house profection year events :smile:

definitely not straightforward

Transiting Moon in terms of Mars approaching conjunction with natal Mars in decanate of Jupiter
Transiting Mercury in own decanate and bounds in domicile of Moon in WS 8th
but also strong as angular in Placidus 7th

Note natal Capricorn Moon in domicile of Saturn and Exaltation of Mars

Transiting Venus domicile ruler of 11th in terms of Mercury in 10th in Mercurys domicile and Suns decanate
ahd trining transiting Mars
Transiting Sun in 9th in Saturns decanate and Jupiters terms
Transiting Saturn in decanate and bounds of Mars
Transiting Mars in domicile of Venus and decanate and terms of Saturn
Note Natal Saturn conjuncts natal PoF in Mercurys terms
Transiting Jupiter is literally borderline and retrograding back to Mercurys Terms
while trining transiting Saturn in WS 9th


@JA

For your chart, did a sibling leave the country?

No siblings left the country on that day, that is not the event


T. Mars has just entered whole sign 9th on the day
- 9th house deals with international travel.

Mars natally rules the 3rd house of brothers and sisters.
T. Moon is located in the house triggering 3rd house events/people
- 3rd house also deals with travel.
Well noted conspiracy - 'travel' is not unconnected, but not that of a sibling :smile:
keep in mind the mix of 9th house activity
given it's a 7th house profected year
and
7th house is Pisces, Domicile of Jupiter
so
Jupiter is LOY aka Lord of the Year
and
Exalted ruler of Pisces is Venus
thus Jupiter and Venus are intensified
and so on and so forth

Natal Mars is located in the 12th house
- 12th house deals with faraway places/"exile"
- so a potential natal "promise" would be that siblings "go faraway"
-they travel a lot, undertake spiritual practices, or get locked up.
No siblings have to date got locked up
one sibling travels frequently, others travel occasionally
however
3rd house is not solely siblings
other 3rd significations include local neighbourhood
as well as communications in general
 

craft94

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in the interests of facilitating your practice skills as requested :smile:
an important important occurred involving this person whose natal chart it is
idea seems to be to assess the kind of event



EGYPTIAN TERMS
MANILIUS DECANS

Looking at this chart now...

This is a really wild guess...

Was it an accident that occured overseas?
Possibly injuring their partner?

CT mentioned exile - that would make sense too.
Mars and Venus stand out most - domicile Mars in the 9th trine Mars in the 12th, exalted Venus in the 7th square Venus in the 4th
7th house is also open enemies though - which would fit the theme of exile.
They ran away from their native home to escape enemies? That's my first guess.

Or a divorce? They left their partner for someone in a different country?
 
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JUPITERASC

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Looking at this chart now...

This is a really wild guess...

Was it an accident that occured overseas?
Possibly injuring their partner?
Partner was neither involved in nor injured in an overseas accident

CT mentioned exile - that would make sense too.
Mars and Venus stand out most
- domicile Mars in the 9th trine Mars in the 12th,
exalted Venus in the 7th square Venus in the 4th
7th house is also open enemies though - which would fit the theme of exile.
They ran away from their native home to escape enemies?
That's my first guess.
They did not run away from their native home to escape enemies

Or a divorce?
They left their partner for someone in a different country?
They did not divorce
They did not leave their partner for someone in a different country


Poetry therapy.
Poetry is definitely therapeutic - have fun writing the essay

by the way, I often state that "guessing is fun but unreliable"
nevertheless guessing is the beginning of the process
and while reading a thread arguing whether astrology is "a science" or not
I recalled an online video that may interest you
Physicist Richard Feynman
a dude well qualified to joke regarding "The Scientific Method"

discusses "how scientists would look for a new law" :smile:


'....In general, we look for a new law by the following process.
First, we guess it (audience laughter), no, don’t laugh, that’s the truth.
Then we compute the consequences of the guess, to see what, if this is right,
if this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply
and then we compare the computation results to nature
or we say compare to experiment or experience,
compare it directly with observations to see if it works...'

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s WRONG.
In that simple statement is the key to science.
It doesn’t make any difference how beautiful your guess is,
it doesn’t matter how smart you are who made the guess,
or what his name is… If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong.
That’s all there is to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmimDq4cSU

so keep guessing and then refining the process
 

craft94

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Partner was neither involved in nor injured in an overseas accident

They did not run away from their native home to escape enemies

They did not divorce
They did not leave their partner for someone in a different country



Poetry is definitely therapeutic - have fun writing the essay

by the way, I often state that "guessing is fun but unreliable"
nevertheless guessing is the beginning of the process
and while reading a thread arguing whether astrology is "a science" or not
I recalled an online video that may interest you
Physicist Richard Feynman
a dude well qualified to joke regarding "The Scientific Method"

discusses "how scientists would look for a new law" :smile:


'....In general, we look for a new law by the following process.
First, we guess it (audience laughter), no, don’t laugh, that’s the truth.
Then we compute the consequences of the guess, to see what, if this is right,
if this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply
and then we compare the computation results to nature
or we say compare to experiment or experience,
compare it directly with observations to see if it works...'

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s WRONG.
In that simple statement is the key to science.
It doesn’t make any difference how beautiful your guess is,
it doesn’t matter how smart you are who made the guess,
or what his name is… If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong.
That’s all there is to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmimDq4cSU

so keep guessing and then refining the process

Guessing may not be reliable but it is educational!
 

RaRohini

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in the interests of facilitating your practice skills as requested :smile:
an important important occurred involving this person whose natal chart it is
idea seems to be to assess the kind of event



EGYPTIAN TERMS
MANILIUS DECANS

Sure JupiterAsc ! Though i am not great at event prediction, i will give it a try 😃
 

RaRohini

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Jupiter Asc mystery chart..
Does'nt seem to be a pleasant event JupAsc.
Moon is in Gemini Ardra the star of rage and it is aspected by Saturn in Virgo Hasta the golden hand. Was there an execution?
 

RaRohini

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And if it was a pleasant event, it could be a graduation ceremony ??😃 because Gemini Ardra is the star of discrimination ( business) and Hasta indicates milestones in learning.
 

conspiracy theorist

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27 July 2007 11th House profection year
interesting both charts are 11th house profection year events :smile:


You referring to my 2 charts? They were 9 years apart.



Note natal Capricorn Moon in domicile of Saturn and Exaltation of Mars


Weird, no chart I posted has the Capricorn moon.


Well noted conspiracy - 'travel' is not unconnected, but not that of a sibling :smile:
keep in mind the mix of 9th house activity
given it's a 7th house profected year
and
7th house is Pisces, Domicile of Jupiter
so
Jupiter is LOY aka Lord of the Year
and
Exalted ruler of Pisces is Venus
thus Jupiter and Venus are intensified
and so on and so forth


No siblings have to date got locked up
one sibling travels frequently, others travel occasionally
however
3rd house is not solely siblings
other 3rd significations include local neighbourhood
as well as communications in general


Alright, here I go for the second round.

LOY is Jupiter. Jupiter rules the 7th house and 4th. 7th house deals with relationships and the 4th house contains Venus - natural sig. for relationships. But I don't think this is a romantic relationship per se, as Jupiter is located in the natal 2nd while Venus rules the natal 2nd. My mind is going towards business.

On the day, T. Venus (rules 2nd and 9th) is located in 7th house - exalted
Mercury (ruler of the 1st and located in 2nd) is located in the 7th
T. Jupiter (rules 7th and 4th) located in the 9th
T. Saturn (exalt ruler of the 2nd) is also located in the 9th
T. Mars (ruler of the 8th and 3rd) is also located in the 9th
T. Sun is located in the 8th house

7th house deals with partnerships
2nd house deals with finances and personal resources
9th house deals with the international/travel
8th house deals with other peoples resources
3rd house deals with communications

So, did this person land a lucrative business deal with international trade partners?
 

JUPITERASC

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Jupiter Asc mystery chart..
Does'nt seem to be a pleasant event JupAsc.
Moon is in Gemini Ardra the star of rage
and it is aspected by Saturn in Virgo Hasta the golden hand.
Was there an execution?
The chart shown centrally is natal RaRohini
planetary transits for the event are in green :smile:
that could be very different from Vedic Sidereal natal chart
if you are accustomed to viewing a "square chart"

if I am correct
then you are saying that
the persons natal Moon is in Sidereal Gemini Ardra
aspected by natal Saturn in Virgo
and that is not a pleasant aspect
what would be your Sidereal Vedic delineation for this as a natal aspect?

 

JUPITERASC

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And if it was a pleasant event, it could be a graduation ceremony ??��
because Gemini Ardra is the star of discrimination ( business)
and Hasta indicates milestones in learning.
So to be clear then RaRohini, we are viewing the natal chart at center
with transits for the event date in green around the rim
so to clarify I understand your meaning :smile:
you are saying this persons natal chart
indicates business discrimination
which is linked with milestones in learning?

because the event Moon - shown in green - is in Sidereal Libra
and event Saturn also shown in green - is in Sidereal Aries
so it's not the kind of event you described

 

JUPITERASC

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You referring to my 2 charts? They were 9 years apart.
2007 was the 11th house Profection year LOY VENUS Saturn Exalted
Venus rules 11th and 6th WS houses
and natally is in Saturns domicile Capricorn, also Mars Exaltation

correction for 2016 which was in fact an 8th House Profection
with MOON LOY Jupiter Exalted ruler
LOY Moons Exalted house is 6th WS
craft94 already delineated a likely accident

I'll throw my hat in.

This is my natal chart with transits for early June 2016.
Based on the placements of the transitting planets,
what was going on in my life at that time?

I've also added the whole sign chart
as I think certain things that happened were quite indicative of a certain planet within my chart.
Traditional perspective
8th House Profection and Moon as LOY
events related to death, debt, other peoples money, fear are possibilities

VENUS ruler of 6th WS is combust in 7th by ruler of 9th WS house of travel and far away places
and according to VETTIUS VALENS
http://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/vettius%20valens%20entire.pdf
Venus is a signifier of the Mother and nurture


T Moon in 6th house of health and disease in exaltation
may have averted fatalities
assisted by trine with Jupiter
exaltation ruler of 8th WS conjunct the "lucky strike" T North Node
dr. farr refers to N Node conjunctions as "lucky strikes"
Weird, no chart I posted has the Capricorn moon.
Correction, Venus Capricorn :smile:
weak trine with Virgo Jupiter and Taurus Moon on the day
 
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