Human existence: the gender of God

leomoon

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References:



  1. Intermarriage and the Jews: What ... - Haaretz - Israel News

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium...
    In Israel, the religious ban on intermarriage is enforced by law. Israel’s legal code on marriage and divorce is based on the old Ottoman law, which gives Orthodox rabbis a monopoly on marrying Jews. Since there is no recourse to civil marriage, Jews, who want to marry non-Jews must get around the prohibition by performing their nuptials abroad.
Washington Post is considered a liberal news outlet:


  1. Your tax dollars are propping up the intellectual heirs to ...

    https://[B]www.washingtonpost.com[/B]/outlook/your-tax-dollars-are-propping-up-the...https://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZTSB&pc=MOZI&q=jews+outlaw+palestinian+renters#
    Jan 11, 2019 · The group is best known for violence against Palestinians and members of the Israeli left, intimidating Jews who hire or rent to Palestinians or other non-Jews and attempting to break up...
  2. Israel - Rabbis "Outlaw" Renting Houses to Arabs - Vos Iz ...

    https://vosizneias.com/2010/12/07/israel-rabbis-outlaw-renting-houses-to-arabshttps://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZTSB&pc=MOZI&q=jews+outlaw+palestinian+renters#
    Dec 07, 2010 · Israel -Three dozen top Israeli rabbis threw their support Tuesday behind a religious ruling barring Jews from selling or renting homes to non-Jews — an indication of growing radicalism within the rabbinical community at a time of mounting friction between Israeli Arabs and Jews.
 
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david starling

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There are 200,000 US citizens mostly Jewish (dual citizenship), but this list includes a few Evangelical Protestants of the Christian faith who believe Israel is where the second coming of Christ will happen. Israel allows Aliyah or the right of return to anyone who has a Jewish parent or grandparent and religiously in Judaism, then the number of guest workers who aren't Jewish indicates Israel has a huge preference for Jewish people from around the world, but they aren't exclusive in receiving immigrants. Despite the growing population of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews, the majority of Israelis have a western cultural liberal bent.







I always saw a problem with so-called "Dual" citizenship, as one cannot then take an oath to be loyal to one country over another or does he or she?



Israel is not the 51st State, btw.



As for having a Liberal in Israel? Why then do they have certain roads devoted only to Jews and not Christians nor Arabs Palestinians?
Why do they have laws against intermarriage now with their neighbors?


I personally do not see the country as liberal in the least. Well, not my kind of liberal anyway. :smile:


a few references:

  1. The Gritty Truth About Israel's 'Jewish-Only' Highways ...

    salem-news.com/articles/january052013/jewish-roads-tk.phphttps://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZTSB&pc=MOZI&q=does+israel+have+roads+only+for+jews?#
    Sep 30, 2019 · Israel has roads that only Jewish people can use. This fact can be checked through many sources and by that I don't mean pro-Palestine media, I mean groups like +972 Mag and The Jerusalem Post , Ha'aretz and the United Nations.
  2. Hebron: Separate roads for Jews, Palestinians

    https://[B]www.ynetnews.com[/B]/articles/0,7340,L-4353235,00.htmlhttps://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZTSB&pc=MOZI&q=does+israel+have+roads+only+for+jews?#
    Road leading to Cave of Patriarchs separated by fence: paved side for Jews, unpaved for Arabs. The segregated Jewish-Palestinian bus lines offered by the Afikim bus company in the West Bank have caused quite the stir recently, but this division has already been effective in Hebron for years.
  3. First Jewish-only road in Israel – Middle East Monitor

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20151223-first-jewish-only-road-in-israelhttps://www.bing.com/search?form=MOZTSB&pc=MOZI&q=does+israel+have+roads+only+for+jews?#
    Dec 23, 2015 · First Jewish-only road in Israel. The Israeli Misgav Regional Council has proposed a new Jewish-only road connecting two Israeli Jewish settlements built in the 1980s in the Galilee Heights to the south of the Arab neighbourhood of Maj Al-Koroom, Quds Press reported yesterday

Asking liberalism from orthodox Abrahamic religions is asking too much.
 

leomoon

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It's "I use."

People don't trust Scripture because it's being used by so many to satisfy their own subjective purposes.


Boy oh boy, you can say that again!:wink: :devil:


REF:
David Starling:
Asking liberalism from orthodox Abrahamic religions is asking too much.
Agreed, BUT the problem is, (as likely Haaretz outlines and the others (I can't open some of them now myself, because as I said something is weird about my computer settings with ads :( :( so I simply guess what they are saying here, and hope you check them out)


BUT, the problem is as I see it, the Netanyahu long long (way stayed its usefulness towards being liberal and idealist) government, is the LIKUD party, has become easily seen as an extremist Zionist party.


from the Israel Times: (which I could open easily):
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/whatever-happened-to-the-likuds-liberal-values/

Avigdor Lieberman’s latest comment, noting that the Likud has become a “semi-ultra-Orthodox” party has no factual basis neither in the makeup of the party’s list, or in its voter base, but is apparent in the party leaders’ total capitulation to the dictates of the ultra-Orthodox.
There is no need whatsoever for right-wing positions to be diametrically opposed to liberal values and to a commitment to human rights, the rule of law, and equality.



Begin and Jabotinsky proved that the two are not contradictory, as did their successors. The liberal Right continues to exist, but in the Likud party — it seems to be on the verge of disappearing.
 
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petosiris

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It's "I use."

People don't trust Scripture because it's being used by so many to satisfy their own subjective purposes.

Most people don't trust Scripture because they have never read it or tried to understand it with its context and spirit. Bruh, less than half of Americans in the US can even name the four gospels - https://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey-who-knows-what-about-religion/ and only slightly above half of them can answer most basic questions about Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
 
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leomoon

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That's the key word for Aquarius, "I know".

We're stuck with transmitted knowledge from the Age of Sagittarius (key word, "I see"). It isn't direct vision, it's being clouded by this Saturn-oriented Age of Capricorn.

The sky will clear, and the clouds will part, that's the promise of the Aquarian Age: Direct knowledge of God will be available to ALL. No need to sift through and subjectively interpret the ancient literature.

Until then, theologians will continue to dance on the head of a pin. :pinched::biggrin:




Not so sure about that promise occuring David, just because we enter a new age. We ended one age and entered a new one supposedly, with the Great Flood whether Noah's or the Babylonian one, the idea is a new Age of trying came about.


Do you really think souls so thick and closed and dark (some of them leaders of this country has seen), will possibly "all of a sudden" be privy to the understanding of the angels? Somehow, I sincerely doubt this will be.



The World English Bible translates the passage as:
Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throwyour pearls (i.e. wisdom) before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. For a collection of other versions see BibleHub Matthew 7:6


Only reincarnating can alter mindsets long long set in darkness and misunderstanding. Not miracles of a new age.


Unless of course you mean something about the promise of a New Age of 1,000 years with enlightened souls? :wink::unsure:
Of course, its possible too that not all astrologers on this forum believe in the concept of reincarnation and subjective learning through that opportunity given them. :sad:
 

david starling

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Most people don't trust Scripture because they have never read it or tried to understand it with its context and spirit. Bruh, less than half of Americans in the US can even name the four gospels - https://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey-who-knows-what-about-religion/ and only slightly above half of them can answer most basic questions about Abraham, Moses and Jesus.

As long as they're doing well enough meeting the requirements of our Capitalist economic system in this essentially materialistic Age of Capricorn, the gospels are generally considered just very old news from a time long gone. Might be useful in a trivia contest though! :biggrin:
 

Opal

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Not so sure about that promise occuring David, just because we enter a new age. We ended one age and entered a new one supposedly, with the Great Flood whether Noah's or the Babylonian one, the idea is a new Age of trying came about.



Do you really think souls so thick and closed and dark (some of them leaders of this country has seen), will possibly "all of a sudden" be privy to the understanding of the angels? Somehow, I sincerely doubt this will be.

No, dark is dark. I also, do not believe you can live a life of horridness, and on your deathbed exclaim your heartfelt belief in Jesus and be saved. Give us your thieves, your murderers and dishonest. If they espouse a belief in the Lord Jesus Christ, who died for your sins, you too will be welcomed on high.

Nope, doesn't work for me.


The World English Bible translates the passage as:
Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throwyour pearls (i.e. wisdom) before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. For a collection of other versions see BibleHub Matthew 7:6


Only reincarnating can alter mindsets long long set in darkness and misunderstanding. Not miracles of a new age.

Now this, I can understand.

Unless of course you mean something about the promise of a New Age of 1,000 years with enlightened souls? :wink::unsure:
Of course, its possible too that not all astrologers on this forum believe in the concept of reincarnation and subjective learning through that opportunity given them. :sad:

I really admire Schulman. I am amazed, that he never divulged his own natal chart.
 

petosiris

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As long as they're doing well enough meeting the requirements of our Capitalist economic system in this essentially materialistic Age of Capricorn, the gospels are generally considered just very old news from a time long gone. Might be useful in a trivia contest though! :biggrin:

But it sounds like they are new news to most people. :smile:
 

Opal

Premium Member
As long as they're doing well enough meeting the requirements of our Capitalist economic system in this essentially materialistic Age of Capricorn, the gospels are generally considered just very old news from a time long gone. Might be useful in a trivia contest though! :biggrin:

Past and future news. Book of the Ages, to prepare us for them.

Waybread, you asked once where I saw it, The Book of the Ages, I just saw it again, in a copy of the Torah. At the beginning. Introduction.
 

leomoon

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Opal:

*I really admire Schulman. I am amazed, that he never divulged his own natal chart. *

You mean Martin Schulman, the reincarnation astrologer / nodes?
I use to have all his little volumes and loved reading them but have long since put most of my books up on Amazon, (1st come basis), and now I just searched and see I retain about 4 of them now..
Karmic Astrology Volume 3 "Joy & the POF"
Karmic Astrology Volume 2 "Retrogrades & Reincarnation"
Karmic Relationships = and
Celestial Harmony

I wonder why he didn't want to reveal his chart?? I had no idea. He was very popular, perhaps a secretive Scorpio? :unsure:

I found this obituary:
http://horizonsmagazine.com/blog/martin-schulman-karmic-astrology-the-karma-of-each-sign/


https://www.astrostar.com/KarmicAstrology.htm


ADDED:
Opal: I found his photo here with his wife. He was a PHD in psychology, (go figure), and was a musician in early life. He lived to age 75 and died in Florida accdg. to the obit above:


https://www.amazon.com/Martin-Schulman/e/B001KIZAW4%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
 
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AppLeo

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Has she ever said she's done with you?

Well, not with you, but with the conversation she was having with you?

Twice she has said she’s done with me :lol:
Hasn’t replied to me since

It’s fine though. Waybread’s like that school teacher that gets all up in arms because you’re playing with your pencil or something
 

Opal

Premium Member
Not so sure about that promise occuring David, just because we enter a new age. We ended one age and entered a new one supposedly, with the Great Flood whether Noah's or the Babylonian one, the idea is a new Age of trying came about.


Do you really think souls so thick and closed and dark (some of them leaders of this country has seen), will possibly "all of a sudden" be privy to the understanding of the angels? Somehow, I sincerely doubt this will be.

I don't think so. I think it will just be a different theme of kingdomhood. The rich and powerful, remain the rich and powerful.



The World English Bible translates the passage as:
Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throwyour pearls (i.e. wisdom) before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. For a collection of other versions see BibleHub Matthew 7:6


Only reincarnating can alter mindsets long long set in darkness and misunderstanding. Not miracles of a new age.


Unless of course you mean something about the promise of a New Age of 1,000 years with enlightened souls? :wink::unsure:
Of course, its possible too that not all astrologers on this forum believe in the concept of reincarnation and subjective learning through that opportunity given them. :sad:

I was thinking about all that begetting going on. It hasn't stopped. Where do we record the begetting for the last 2,000 years. Did we suddenly decide not to record anymore. I think not. So what genetic line is in running for the line of David? Solomon? Abraham? Has the Age of Pisces, taken away our eyes to see what begetting got done?:smile:
 
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