Not likely. He might want that -- uh, for the time being --- but you won't.
No, I might be inclined to say that fear is the driving force here.
Stricture
noun
[C] (CRITICISM)
Definition › a
statement of
severe criticism or
disapproval
Uh...to improve your understanding...that's from the Oxford-Cambridge Dictionary.
I'm not exactly sure which I find to be more disquieting: English-speakers who don't understand English, or astrologers who don't understand astrology.
Everyone listen to me now, and hear me tomorrow afternoon around tea time (Central European Time):
The only Chart that cannot be read is a non-Radical Chart.
How odd is it that
the one and only thing that actually, really, truly does prevent a chart from being read is an incongruous Hour Ruler....
...
and no one even bothers to determine the Hour Ruler.
Does anyone not see the irony in that?
Here's a great analogy....
Three men are brutally beating and raping a woman...and you all stand there screaming at a small child who dropped his ice cream cone on the ground.
Jupiter is the Hour Ruler, in case anyone is interested.
She does. She's in denial, and asked the question out of desperation.
Which means what?
When Saturn is in the 1st Sign, and Saturn is not a Significator of the Querent or Quesited Person/Matter, then it indicates delays, and that the matter will be difficult to resolve....unless Saturn is Retrograde, in which case the matter comes to a spectacular fail.
Saturn is in Scorpio, and Scorpio is not the Rising-Sign.
A VOC Moon is one ---- of three testimonies in this Chart --- that Querent will end this, or not pursue further action.
Co-signficator. Moon is Co-significator for the Querent.
There's a lot of bad web-sites putting out really bad and bogus info.
No, that is not what Via Combusta means.
Both the Ascendant and Moon are Via Combusta, which along with VOC Moon makes three very strong testimonies that Querent will not see this through.
A Significator that is Via Combusta is very insecure, or not in control, or both.
What is Moon's condition in this Chart?
Don't you people think you ought to assess Moon's condition?
-Moon is VOC
-Moon is Via Combusta
-Moon is Diurnal = not in-Sect
-Moon in Masculine Sign
-Moon in Masculine House
-Moon Out-of-Sect
-Moon in Masculine Degree
-Moon joined to Lot of Discord (at 29° Libra in the Horary Chart)
Moon is at 29° Libra. Ivy Gold-digger-Jacobstein would say it's a "Critical Degree" and have you believe she discovered that by her own brilliant self.
That Degree is
-Empty
-Pitted
Finally..
-Moon is Peregrine.
And that brings the total to 11 Negative Testimonies about Moon.
Is Moon Fortunate....or Unfortunate? Is Moon functioning as a Fortune, or as an Infortune?
You cannot know what people are feeling, but you can know Querent's state-of-mind.
And what is Querent's state-of-mind?
Totally conflicted and torn.
I'm not seeing that and not sure how you came to that conclusion. Love to trade theories on that, by right now it's a moot point, primarily because Venus is in aversion to Mars.
Joining Jupiter.
Which Sign is the 9th Sign?
Gemini.
Who rules Gemini?
Mercury.
What is Mercury doing?
Mercury is Retrograde, seeking to join with Jupiter and Mars.
Who wants to be a Millionaire?
Question: Does Mercury join Jupiter?
Bonus Question: Does Mercury join Mars?
Nope....Mercury never perfects either, because he turns Direct.
The "Ephemeris"....it's what Real Astrologers use (to avoid embarrassment).
No, absolutely not. That is differently twisted nonsense spewed by idiots on their web-sites and unsupported by any logic or reasoning. Drink their Kool-Aid and you will always mess up the interpretation of a chart.
That's tantamount to stacking the deck in order to tell the Querent exactly what the Querent wants to hear, which is nauseating and disgusting, especially since it smells like soothe-saying.
Enough of that going around already.
No. The Moon is a Co-significator for Querent, just as Sun is a Co-Significator for the Quesited, since this is a question about relationships.
There's no such thing as a "co-ruler" in Astrology. That's a Modern Astrology concept forced upon them after they foolishly and stupidly assigned rulerships to the Outer Planets without using any logic or reason, only to find it didn't work, and so in order to save face and keep from being the laughing stock of the Universe, Modern Astrologers re-introduced the original rulers as "co-rulers."
The purpose of a Co-significator is to provide additional information about the Primary Significator....which is Venus in this Chart for Querent.
Cancer is the 10th Sign, so I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, since Moon is totally whacked out and completely distressed and debilitated.
Also, Venus and Mars are in aversion...how could they possibly be on the same page?
That's an horrid web-site.
Why doesn't anyone want to delineate and interpret Moon's past aspects?
As an astrologer reading Horary Charts, that's your job.
Let's see....
Moon/Mars square (at exactly 0° Cancer/Libra)
Moon/Jupiter square
Moon/Mercury square
Moon/Sun square
...all while Moon is transiting Libra.
The "Ephemeris"......an Astrologer's Best Friend.
Moon makes four prior squares and now Moon is totally distressed......and wondering if Quesited will marry.......things that make you go "
mmmmmhhhh."
Mars is...
-in Detriment (Malefic)
-a Nocturnal Planet that is Diurnal (Malefic)
-not in-Sect
-a Masculine Planet in a Feminine Sign
-a Masculine Planet in a Feminine House -- the 10th -- sorry, but Cancer is the 10th Sign in this Chart
-totally Out-of-Sect
-in a Feminine Degree to boot
-Out-of-Bounds on top of that
The only saving grace here is that Mars is in his own Bound (and so not Peregrine) and in a Fortune Degree.
Venus is....
-Peregrine
-a Nocturnal Planet that is Diurnal
-not in-Sect
-in a Masculine Sign -- Leo
-in a Masculine House -- 11th (sorry, Leo is the 11th Sign in this Chart)
-totally Out-of-Sect
-in aversion to Sun, Mercury, Jupiter and Mars
+in a Feminine Degree
-in an Empty Degree
-in a Pitted Degree
Venus is totally distressed and in bad shape, plus having Saturn looking at Venus from a square (by Sign) is not good.
Mars is a Superior Planet, and thus by definition is slow.
However, with respect to relative speed, Mars is moving fast here Seeing how Mars is in the same Sign as Sun, it'll be about 2 months before Mars goes Retrograde.
Nope.
You can't be an Astrologer, if you don't have an Ephemeris.
I'll grant you this is a very difficult chart, but that's why you need an Ephemeris.
"
It's a Late Ascendant...." blah, blah, blah, blah, make me gag.....this whole sad gripping saga stonker of a story is about to play out amongst 5 Planets: Moon, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
What is happening now...
Mercury is seeking to join with Jupiter, trine Saturn, and join with Mars respectively.
Mars is seeking to join with Jupiter
Jupiter and Saturn are in partile trine aspect
Moon is seeking to trine Mars, followed by a joining with Saturn and then a trine with Jupiter and a trine with Mercury.
In order to sort that mess out, you need an Ephemeris so that you can see the exact order in which each of those aspects perfects, and we already know Mercury is going to go Direct and so the three of the aspects will never perfect.
In order to correctly delineate and interpret this chart, it is essential, uh, to use an Ephemeris, but also to understand that Mars, Jupiter and Mercury are assembled in Cancer and each is working toward the same purpose, and that Mercury and Sun are assembled for a different purpose, and that Mercury will go Direct; plus to understand the concepts of blocking and the cutting of light and so on --- because those Planets interfere with each other and tell you the story.
And what is the signification of a Planet moving into its Fall?
That's key to the story here.
Well, you pretty much nailed it.
That "something" is the interplay between the 5 Planets I mentioned above.
That "something" is already happening --- and Querent knows it --- and it will manifest itself more certain in the coming weeks/months.
Maybe not, but one thing is for certain, and that is Moon, Venus and Mars are all Out-of-Sect.
When a Planet is Out-of-Sect, there are three possible interpretations:
1] The person or object represented by the Planet is not who or what they appear to be; there's an air of malice here, founded on trickery, fraud, deception, deceit and ill-will.
2] The person or object signified by the Planet is doing something they would not normally do, or something that is contrary to their nature. There is no malice here.
3] The person or object the Planet signfies is acting in a manner that is totally and wholly in appropriate. That can run the gamut from something as simple as violating social mores, customs and taboos to something that is criminal. It may or may not be malicious.
For Moon, Venus and Mars, we can rule out Option 2.
Peregrine Planets are malicious, but seeing how Venus is in aversion to Mars, and Moon in aversion to Saturn, I'll say that Querent is acting in a manner that is completely inappropriate.
Who is being harmed here?
Venus rules the 1st Sign/House and also the 8th Sign/House of Fear, and then Moon rules Querent's 10th Sign/House and is in the 1st Sign/House, so the only victim here is Querent.
Mars is Malefic here being Diurnal and in Cancer. Something is not right about him.
In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet, much of this has to do with Quesited and his father, and very little to do with Querent.
That's true, but an Horary Chart will never contradict a Natal Chart, so in order for the Horary Chart to yield a positive result, her Natal Chart must include the promise of marriage to a foreigner, etc etc etc.
Not only that, but a marriage will not take place unless the Profectional Chart and the Solar Return Chart rubber-stamp it.
The 11th House is not hopey-wishy.
I totally destroyed and annihilated that stupid nonsense. Lily made an error and misunderstood what Bonatti --- and every astrologer who ever lived before Lily since time immemorial --- actually said about the 11th House, and then Houlding compounded the error and now this botched abortion is snow-balling out of control.
So far....the only evidence or argument anyone has ever been able to present to counter my well-constructed, well-documented, well-researched argument has been.....
....[drum roll please]....
...
"you don't have a a web-site."
It has the foul stench of Academia.....a bunch of idiots in Ivory Towers running around in circles screaming, "
You're not published, and I am," or "
I'm cited more times than you."
Saturn is in Scorpio. Since when does the Sign of Scorpio oppose the Sign of Aries?
And in Horary Astrology Saturn rules Aquarius.
That's impossible for two reasons, first, Saturn is Direct, and second, Saturn is the slower of the two Planets.
Planetary Speeds...
<Moon Mercury Venus Sun Mars Jupiter Saturn>
Instead of guessing, why not follow the rules and check to see if there is strong Reception between Moon and Saturn when they join?
Since there will be no Reception between Moon and Saturn, that is a bad omen.
No kidding.....he loves his father more than he loves you, since Mars and his Co-significator Sun are both in his 4th Sign/House.
Aren't you glad you'll be playing second fiddle to his father? Oh, and your motherly skills as a woman will come handy taking care of two grown men.
We have a term for that in Romanian:
papalapte
Yes, I know. That's why you're questioning it.
That's also why I'm taking the time to look at this thread...not that you're on my Christmas card list or anything, but you're a respected forum member and I'm sort of biased, since strong fierce independent women give me a woody.
Look at Peregrine Venus.....alone.....in Leo....in aversion to most of the Planets in the Chart. Look at Peregrine Moon in your 1st House.
Why would you want to give that up?
Mmmmhhh.....Out-of-Sect Moon and Out-of-Sect Venus.....gosh, just like a question on the game show '
Family Feud'....
Name something a fiercely independent woman would do that is totally inappropriate....