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But if we take an astrological perspective, which is always topocentric,
the fixed stars have swift motion of theirs too.
Also observation of falling leafs and cold wintry weather
has made me think that the movement with respect to the celestial equator
is more important than proximity to fixed stars.
Fixed Stars have an effect I have observed in the lives of people
but you may be correct

I'm certainly no expert

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It entered into 1 or 7, the vernal or autumnal equinox respectively.
those were the days
when vernal equinox was the house of Mars
and autumnal equinox was the house of Venus
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What do you mean ?
Irrational astrology
it's been awhile since Northern Hemisphere Sun ingressed the house of Mars at the Vernal Equinox
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Also observation of falling leafs and cold wintry weather

has made me think that the movement

with respect to the celestial equator

is more important than proximity to fixed stars.
Certainly
to make no distinction between hemispheres
and thus
to apparently
equate Northern Hemisphere cold wintry weather
and resultant falling of many a leaf
with Southern Hemisphere Spring
and the budding of many a leaf

seems irrational


weather is certainly affected by axial tilt of our planet

and thus

since it seems evident that our planet is noticeably affected
by receiving more or less heat and light at Equinoxes and Solstices
dependent relative to respective hemispheres

then

since Fixed Stars are distant massive blazing suns

in comparison with which our sun is puny

it seems plausible that
Fixed Stars have some influence on our weather
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Certainly
to make no distinction between hemispheres
and thus
to apparently
equate Northern Hemisphere cold wintry weather
and resultant falling of many a leaf
with Southern Hemisphere Spring
and the budding of many a leaf

seems irrational


weather is certainly affected by axial tilt of our planet

and thus

since it seems evident that our planet is noticeably affected
by receiving more or less heat and light at Equinoxes and Solstices
dependent relative to respective hemispheres

then

since Fixed Stars are distant massive blazing suns

in comparison with which our sun is puny

it seems plausible that
Fixed Stars have some influence on our weather
But just as we do not take into account distant so-called planets like Neptune and Pluto, so we do not take into factor the power of the emanations of distant suns by their possible sizes, rather we do this by observation of their magnitude, colours and sublunar influences from geocentric, or more correctly topocentric perspective. So what you describe is not rational or traditional approach.

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But just as we do not take into account
distant so-called planets like Neptune and Pluto, so
we do not take into factor the power of the emanations of distant suns by the proximity, rather
we do this by observation of their magnitude, colours and sublunar influences from geocentric, or
more correctly topocentric perspective.
So what you describe is not rational or traditional approach.
Perhaps irrational from that perspective
Nevertheless
despite their being multiple light years distant from our planet
Fixed Stars ARE VISIBLE SUNS
whereas the much closer outers
are invisible
therefore
there can be no comparison between outers and Fixed Stars
particularly when LIGHT emanation
i.e.
MAGNITUDE of a particular Fixed Star is considered
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Where did I request that you delete your entire OP?

I pointed out the forum rules.
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I don't have the authority to delete your posts. That's up to you or the mods.
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