Decans and Duads!

Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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I think we have finally found a perfect topic to add to this board...decans! As we study the intricate relationships between planets and seek to understand their placements through such means as sabian symbols, I have found it to be incredibly easy to overlook the relationship between each planet and where it falls within its sign.

Let the discussion begin! :mrgreen:

Arian Maverick
 
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Sugarflame

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Did the description fit you? I checked mine out, but it wasn't that accurate for me. . .I think I'm more of a third-decan Sagittarius than a second.
 
Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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Did the description fit you? I checked mine out, but it wasn't that accurate for me. . .I think I'm more of a third-decan Sagittarius than a second.
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I remember thinking that the third decan of Pisces fit me quite well, but I don't remember how I felt about the first decan of Aries. I will investigate this now :wink:

EDIT: I thought it would be relevant to post the charts I have uploaded to the thread, A New Idea for an Online Tool.

Decans and Duads - Part One



Decans and Duads - Part Two



Decans and Duads - Part Three



I hope this is helpful to everyone! :mrgreen:

Arian Maverick
 
Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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No replies? :?

Oh well, I like my charts and I'm going to post the decan and duad for each of my planets here:

Sun: Leo Decan, Libra Duad
Moon: Aries Decan, Gemini Duad
Mercury: Leo Decan, Libra Duad
Venus: Leo Decan, Libra Duad
Mars: Libra Decan, Sagittarius Duad
Jupiter: Gemini Decan, Cancer Duad
Saturn: Taurus Decan, Gemini Duad
Uranus: Capricorn Cecan, Pisces Duad
Neptune: Taurus Decan, Gemini Duad
Pluto: Pisces Decan, Aries Duad

I suppose it couldn't hurt to do my Ascendant, Descendant, Midheaven, and Nadir as well:

Ascendant: Aries Decan, Aries Duad
Descendant: Libra Decan, Libra Duad
Midheaven: Capricorn Decan, Capricorn Duad
Nadir: Cancer Decan, Cancer Duad

And, finally, here are Chiron, Lilith, and my North Node:

Chiron: Cancer Decan, Cancer Duad
Lilith: Libra Decan, Sagittarius Duad
North Node: Pisces Decan, Aries Duad

Arian Maverick :wink:
 
tsquare

tsquare

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Cancer Sun: Piscies Decante, Gemini Dwad
Leo Moon: Aries Decante, Taurus Dwad
Cancer Mercury: Piscies Decante, Taurus Dwad
Libra Mars: Gemini Decante, Cancer Dwad(uh oh..)
Cancer Venus: Cancer Decante, cancer Dwad
Scorpio Jupiter: Scorpio Decante, Scorpio Dwad
Libra Saturn: Aquarious Decante, Aries Dwad
Sag. Uranus: Sagitarious Decante, Sagitarious Dwad
Sag. Neptune: Leo Decante, Virgo Dwad
Libra Pluto: Gemini Decante, Cancer Dwad

Leo Ascendent: Sag. Decante, Aqua Dwad
Descendent: Gemini Decante, Leo Dwad
Taurus Midheaven: Taurus Decante, Taurus Dwad
Nadir: Scorpio Decante, Scorpio Dwad

Chiron: Capricorn Decante, piscies dwad,
Lilith: Capricorn Decante, Aquarious Dwad,

Cancer NN 13: Scorpio Decante, Sag. Dwad


I like Decante's still I wonder how to use them as of yet...there is a pattern there to them....
 
Sanura

Sanura

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Interesting that this discussion has come up twice today. I asked the question in another thread called Decans earlier on. It is something I would like to know more about so if anyone has any additional info it would be great to see. I searched the net and got a couple of good articles that give a detailed description of the decans in each sign but it is too large to post on here. Is there some way this can be posted so others can read it or print the info? I have saved it as a word document.

Another question about this. Reading another article on the personal characteristics of the Ascendant sign would the decans in each give a more accurate description of the persons Ascendent and therefore thier physical appearance?????

Does this effect all planets in particular the Progressed Moon???? We would then be dealing with an emotional progression that changes as it moves through the houses. Not 12 Progressed moon phases but 36???? Does anyone know????
 
Neptune at its Finest

Neptune at its Finest

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I would think we would take on characteristics of the specified decante that our Asc. falls into. I do also believe whenever I progress, I change, I meet people more of that sign, my emotions run different.

So I would say Yes, Sanura
 
Neptune at its Finest

Neptune at its Finest

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Sun Leo: Leo decan., Libra duad
Moon Cancer: Pisces decan, Gemini duad
Merc. Cancer: Pisces decan, Aries duad
Venus Virgo: Virgo decan, Libra duad
Mars Aries: Sag. decan, Capricorn duad
Jupiter Aqua: Aquarius decan, Aries duad
Saturn Gem: Aquarius decan, Taurus duad
Uranus Libra: Aquarius decan, Libra duad
Neptune Sag.: Sag. decan, Capricorn duad
Pluto Libra: Libra decan, Libra duad

Asc. Taurus: Virgo decan., Libra duad
Desc. Scorpio: Pisces decan, Aries duad
Midheaven Capricorn: Virgo decan, Scorpio duad
Nadir Cancer: Pisces decan, Aries duad
 
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tsquare

tsquare

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A Link to a Dwads Table.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/dwads.htm#dwads

Decantes are fairly easy to read.
It goes something like this.

Aries.
1D=aries
2D=Leo
3D=Sag.

Leo
1D=leo
2D=Sag.
3D=Aries

Notice something of that pattern??
Thats how they work.
The first Decan is always of the same sign.
The second Decan is always the following sign BY ELEMENT in a counter clockwise motion.
A earth sign will have all eart decans.
A fire Sign sill have all fire decans....etc.etc.

THe dwads are differnet
it is the split of the sign into 12's I believe instead of 3's, and other elements come into play.


Another Decan Example,
Piscies
1D=piscies
2D=cancer
3D=scorpio

The dwads follow a patern as well, but I haven't spotted it yet....to lazy too.
 
tsquare

tsquare

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Well I have spotted the pattern of the dwads....it just looks easier to have a chart on hand for them though...they work the same as the Decans, with the first dwad being that of the sign. Gem-1st decan=gemini....then they go arround the wheel of the zodaic by element....till the 12th is reached from the first.

Aries decans go all the way up to piscies.

aww ***** it:p...charts are easier anyhow......
Still I wonder why they chose to do dwads in the first place, and what is the signifigance to them...really.........and how do they work by aspect....is it a form of a harmonic chart??
I still havent learned how to read harmonic charts yet.
I have heard that Vedic astrology takes the 9th harmonic chart into serious concideration when looking at a natal chart......something that they look at the charts side by side....

tsquare
 
Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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It adds an additional layer of texture to a sign, furthering coloring a planet, which can be located in any of the twelve duads for each sign.

Arian Maverick
 
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Sag Moon

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I think it might be good to see where planets fall for certain people that do not have a balance in a chart as for Triplicities or Modes etc..

I have no planets in Air ,but all my planets fall on Air degree's as an example.
 
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Neptune at its Finest

Neptune at its Finest

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I realize now this is spelled dwad and I just bought a book on it...awesome info. I got another for sale on my Ebay. I'm definitely convinced this is the secret to the 360 degrees of the zodiac because there are dwads within dwads down to each and every degree. Oh boy...super excited. I can't wait to delve in and begin studying this.
 
Arian Maverick

Arian Maverick

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Is there a connection between decans and face?
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What a thought-provoking question!

Each sign consists of three faces of ten degrees each just as each sign consists of three decans of ten degrees each, but I don't think the rulerships always match.

I have italicized the faces and decans that do, however.

Aries:
  • Mars rules first face and first decan
  • Sun rules second face and second decan
  • Venus rules the third face, while Jupiter rules the third decan

Taurus:
  • Mercury rules the first face, while Venus rules the first decan
  • Moon rules the second face, while Mercury rules the second decan
  • Saturn rules the third face and the third decan

Gemini:

  • Jupiter rules the first face, while Mercury rules the first decan
  • Mars rules the second face, while Venus rules the second decan
  • Sun rules the third face, while Saturn/Uranus rulers the third decan

Cancer:

  • Venus rules the first face, while the Moon rules the first decan
  • Mercury rules the second face, while Mars/Pluto rules the second decan
  • Moon rules the third face, while Jupiter/Neptune rules the third decan

Leo:

  • Saturn rules the first face, while the Sun rules the first decan
  • Jupiter rules the second face and the second decan
  • Mars rules the third face and the third decan

Virgo:

  • Sun rules the first face, while Mercury rules the first decan
  • Venus rules the second face, while Saturn rules the second decan
  • Mercury rules the third face, while Venus rules the third decan

Libra:

  • The Moon rules the first face, while Venus rules the first decan
  • Saturn rules the second face and also co-rules the second decan with Uranus
  • Jupiter rules the third face, while Mercury rules the third decan

Scorpio:

  • Mars rules the first face and Mars co-rules the first decan with Pluto
  • The Sun rules the second face, while Jupiter/Neptune rules the second decan
  • Venus rules the third face, while the Moon rules the third decan

Sagittarius:

  • Mercury rules the first face, while Jupiter rules the first decan
  • The Moon rules the second face, while Mars rules the second decan
  • Saturn rules the third face, while the Sun rules the third decan

Capricorn:
  • Jupiter rules the first face, while Saturn rules the first decan
  • Mars rules the second face, while Venus rules the second decan
  • The Sun rules the third face, while Mercury rules the third decan

Aquarius:

  • Venus rules the first face, while Saturn/Neptune rule the first decan
  • Mercury rules the second face and the second decan
  • The Moon rules the third face, while Venus rules the third decan

Pisces:

  • Saturn rules the first face, while Jupiter/Neptune rules the first decan
  • Jupiter rules the second face, while the Moon rules the second decan
  • Mars rules the third face and Mars co-rules the third decan with Pluto

Arian Maverick
 
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Liquid Green

Liquid Green

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thanks arian.............not enought to say there is i believe

you could find the answer to anything i reckon.....hope your professor sees your intelligence like we do;)
 
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