Thoughts on Dane Rudhyar?

david starling

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Chomsky has Sagittarius Ascendant with close Merc rising in Sagittarius and the Sun and Saturn conjunct in Sagittarius just under the Asc. Venus in Capricorn, and Mars and Pluto inconjunct in :cancer:. Moon's in Libra.
 

katydid

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"born in the same place" is not the same as "born in the same space"
two objects cannot occupy the same identical space at the same time
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They were born about 3 or 4 minutes apart.

jupiter:

three or four minutes apart is sufficient time for
a different sign on ascendant
and certainly sufficient time for a different degree rising
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they do have different degrees on the Asc, but same rising sign, same chart ruler, placed in same houses.

Same moon, in same degree and all of the same lunar aspects

They are definite Astro-Twins

The families know each other from the neighborhood and go to the same birthday parties etc. I will be curious to see if they end up in Kindergarten together and see what the similarities and differences are.
 

JUPITERASC

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You can't have the exact same chart for two nativities.
It's theoretically possible.
Perhaps, but it will still be impossible to be born in the same space,

thus invalidating your sophistic objection to fate.
While I was sitting in the hallway waiting room, awaiting the birth
of my grand baby, Another woman was sitting, waiting

for the birth of her grandchild too.
Our grandchildren were born in the same place,
just across the hall from each other.
"born in the same place" is not the same as "born in the same space"
two objects cannot occupy the same identical space at the same time
They were born about 3 or 4 minutes apart.
three or four minutes apart is sufficient time for
a different sign on ascendant :smile:
and certainly sufficient time for a different degree rising
they do have different degrees on the Asc, but
same rising sign, same chart ruler, placed in same houses.
Same moon, in same degree and all of the same lunar aspects
They are definite Astro-Twins
The families know each other from the neighborhood
and go to the same birthday parties etc.
I will be curious to see if they end up in Kindergarten together
and see what the similarities and differences are.
More than three hundred and sixty thousand people are born worldwide daily :smile:
therefore "thousands born worldwide have same moon, in same degree
and all of the same lunar aspects"
worldwide, many are born into
"families that know each other the same neighbourhood" as well
It's not uncommon
 

JUPITERASC

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I do not think it fair to say that Jung "use[d] astrology in his psychological practice,"
except very narrowly:
drawing on the symbolism of the relationship between Sun and Moon in natal charts
to see how they correlated with his psychological theories.
He believed that they did correlate.
But he wasn't a psychological Astrologer, he was an astrological Psychologist.
And, given the disdainful, Modern-scientific attitude towards Astrology,
that, in itself, was significant.
Significantly, Jung was a psychiatrist
- Jung was not an astrologer :smile:
 

JUPITERASC

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david starling

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Chomsky has Sagittarius Ascendant with close Merc rising in Sagittarius and the Sun and Saturn conjunct in Sagittarius just under the Asc. Venus in Capricorn, and Mars and Pluto inconjunct in :cancer:. Moon's in Libra.

Jups in Taurus, put into perspective by this c!osely preceding post.
 

david starling

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Scorpio rising, Mars in VIII, commie warning.



That is genius... ''<smoking onomatopoeia>''

Jupiter is about expanding and spreading the wealth. Saturn is about withholding it from the many and restricting it to the powerful few. Chomsky's Saturn is obscured by the Sun in Sagittarius, which is disposed by Jupiter in Taurus/ disposed by Venus in Capricorn/ disposed by Saturn in Sagittarius/ disposed by Jupiter. :biggrin:
 
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JUPITERASC

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Jupiter is about expanding and spreading the wealth. Saturn is about withholding it from the many and restricting it to the powerful few. Chomsky's Saturn is obscured by the Sun in Sagittarius, which is disposed by Jupiter in Taurus/ disposed by Venus in Capricorn/ disposed by Saturn in Sagittarius/ disposed by Jupiter. :biggrin:
If a correct Chart depends on the exact moment of birth, then
there are very few correct Charts.

Quite :smile:
 

JUPITERASC

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asimone

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Just started reading the Lunation Cycle and though there are some literary gems of knowledge can't hide the fact that Dane Rudhyar comes across sexist and even racist at times, I'm having to pencil out words and change pronouns to non-binary ones. Some metaphors are cringe-worthy, yet I have every intention to read this book through in the sake of knowledge. 🌞 And if anyone has any issue with me sharing my opinion check back to the thread topic; Thoughts on Dane Rudhyar 🌜🌛
 
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