Da Vinci Code – Is Any Of It Fact?

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david starling

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There's a well known theory, apparently with some evidence, that the skies are being sprayed, purportedly to block harmful Solar radiation. And, that the residue has made the forests far more combustible than would otherwise be the case, although the authorities won't admit it.
 
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Monk

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Hi David, when i'm in pain, i don't swear, i say Yogi Bear, the name stuck and has become my "nickname" by my carers.
It is amusing as there is a "Naughty Yogi Bear song" on youtube, it is a bit rude so you will have to look it up yourself, LOL!
I hope in the future to open the Ancient Secret Order of Yogi Bear!
 
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david starling

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Monk: Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and the Rothschild family are all reported by some to be the wealthiest Freemasons in the world today.
Any truth to that in your well-informed opinion?
 
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david starling

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Monk said:
Hi David, when i'm in pain, i don't swear, i say Yogi Bear, the name stuck and has become my "nickname" by my carers.
It is amusing as there is a "Naughty Yogi Bear song" on youtube, it is a bit rude so you will have to look it up yourself, LOL!
I hope in the future to open the Ancient Secret Order of Yogi Bear!
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Well, there is Yogi Bear's companion, Boo-Boo Bear; and, in the U.S. at least, a boo-boo is a type of painful injury, although usually considered minor.

"Boo-Boo" could also be about a ghost who stutters!
 
Monk

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david starling said:
Well, there is Yogi Bear's companion, Boo-Boo Bear; and, in the U.S. at least, a boo-boo is a type of painful injury, although usually considered minor.

"Boo-Boo" could also be about a ghost who stutters!
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Clean video of the adventures of Yogi and Boo Boo below, Ha Ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwAciIQDE4A


Hi Jup,


Getting back on track, the next President was John Quincy Adams, we become confused but your research is below on him:-
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Hi Monk :smile:


Master Mason, Andrew Oxford was right.

John Adams was in fact a Freemason
member of the St. John’s Grand Lodge in Boston, Massachusetts,
same as his cousin, Samuel Adams.
A lot of people haven’t been identified
on a list of all the Freemasons & Templar's
involved with the Constitution and Declaration
It seems it wasn’t accident or coincidence either

- here was probably good reason for it.

But that's unsurprising, considering how secretive the Masons are.
Some things were probably a lot different back then
but the secretiveness hasn’t changed.
A few lodges in Europe
said that not all lodges kept immaculate records back then.
Some could have been lost or destroyed, or locked away.
But a Master of Scrolls confirmed
that he and cousin were members of St. Johns Grand Lodge.


The CIA said Washington was a master of deception
and employed several spies.
Two of which were John Adams and Ben Franklin
which makes sense since they were ambassadors.
Maybe that has something to do with the limited info?
Or maybe he didn’t attend a lot of events. Who knows.

But it’s not uncommon
John Adams was s Templar too
I finally found proof that he was, as I suspected. Adams
like many of his peers,
was a lawyer and member of the Middle Temple
1 of the 4 Inns of Court

What started my interest into this subject was
a quote from Adams regarding the Constitution.

“...I first saw the Constitution of the United States in a foreign country…
I read it with great satisfaction….”

I found all the times he was in a foreign country.
He was ambassador to London, where Middle Temple is located,
when the Constitutional convention was starting.
He came back not long after it was done.
So his first time seeing it had to be in London, before the convention.
Was it pre-drafted in London? Sounds crazy, right?
I mean, just imagine
lawyers committing trickery & deceit
siriusly doesn’t make sense.

But an original copy hangs on the walls in Middle Temple.
The gathering place for lawyers.
When you realize just how many lawyers were involved in drafting the Constitution
it’s not far fetched to think there a chance that copy is an original draft?
In fact, I wouldn’t doubt it.
The Inns of Court were actually involved in the drafting of
the very first American constitution, called the “Fundamental Orders” in 1639.
Roger Ludlow, member of the Inner Temple, drafted it there.
And why would London want a copy of our Constitution?
The document that allegedly separated us from them.
And at the Inns of Court at that.
Unless maybe they had a hand in creating it?
There’s a lot of vague & ambiguous language that went into the Constitution
none of it by accident.

One of the things about lawyers is their ability to deceive with words.

And I’m discovering
that the majority of men involved were mostly Lawyers & Politicians.
Two of the most untrustworthy positions on Earth.
And it seems all, if not most, were either Templar’s or Masons (or both).

Other known members of the Inns of Court include…

Arthur Middleton - Middle Temple

Charles Jared Ingersoll - Middle Temple

William Livingstone - Middle Temple

John Dickinson - Middle Temple

Charles Cotesworth Pinckney - Middle Temple

John Rutledge - Middle Temple

Charles Pinckney - Middle Temple

John Blair Jr. - Middle Temple

Thomas McKean - Middle Temple

Arthur Middleton - Middle Temple

Edward Rutledge - Middle Temple

Thomas Heyward Jr. - Middle Temple

Thomas Lynch Jr. - Middle Temple

William Paca - Inner Temple

One reason things are hard to find and confirm
is the conflicting info all over the place.
Just look below at the numbers claimed for signatories
and attendees of the Constitutional convention.
 
Monk

Monk

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While the Sprague family in Rhode Island was certainly notable for their political power, it was through Harold Sprague’s mother that the family is connected to its most influential relatives. As Harold learned through his research, his mother’s side of the family could trace their lineage all the way back to Joseph Adams (1654-1736). Joseph was the uncle of founding father and statesman, Samuel Adams. Even more directly, Joseph’s grandson was John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. John Adams served as vice-president under George Washington from 1789-1797 before being elected president in 1797, serving one term. He was greatly influential as a political thinker and was one of the original signers of the Declaration of Independence. His political legacy was carried on by his son John Quincy Adams, who served as the 6th President of the United States from 1825-1829. He then had a long career as a representative in Congress (1831-1848), winning reelection eight times!
https://nationalheritagemuseum.typepad.com/library_and_archives/john-quincy-adams/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

To Save dispute we can say John Quincy Adams was a honorary member of the Knight's Hospitallers or the Knights Templar by being an American Ambassador and being a member of "The Middle Temple" In Lincolns Inn in London.
 
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david starling

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Monk said:
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While the Sprague family in Rhode Island was certainly notable for their political power, it was through Harold Sprague’s mother that the family is connected to its most influential relatives. As Harold learned through his research, his mother’s side of the family could trace their lineage all the way back to Joseph Adams (1654-1736). Joseph was the uncle of founding father and statesman, Samuel Adams. Even more directly, Joseph’s grandson was John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. John Adams served as vice-president under George Washington from 1789-1797 before being elected president in 1797, serving one term. He was greatly influential as a political thinker and was one of the original signers of the Declaration of Independence. His political legacy was carried on by his son John Quincy Adams, who served as the 6th President of the United States from 1825-1829. He then had a long career as a representative in Congress (1831-1848), winning reelection eight times!
https://nationalheritagemuseum.typepad.com/library_and_archives/john-quincy-adams/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

To Save dispute we can say John Quincy Adams was a honorary member of the Knight's Hospitallers or the Knights Templar by being an American Ambassador and being a member of "The Middle Temple" In Lincolns Inn in London.
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He led the fight against Slavery in Congress.
 
Monk

Monk

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david starling said:
Benjamin Franklin HAS to be involved somehow!
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Hi David

I did write about Benjamin Franklin, my comments are below, the other question please hold fire on, i need to get through the the list of Presidents first:-


It looks like that Ben Franklin obviously was a Freemason, but i didn't know he was a Rosicrucian?
Quote below:-
Crossing the Atlantic

In the late seventeenth century, following a plan originally proposed by Francis Bacon in The New Atlantis, a colony of Rosicrucian leaders was organized to establish the Rosicrucian arts and sciences in America. In 1694 Rosicrucian settlers made the perilous journey across the Atlantic Ocean in a specially chartered vessel, the Sarah Maria, under the leadership of Johannes Kelpius, master of a Rosicrucian Lodge in Europe. Landing in Philadelphia, the colonists established their first settlement and later moved further west in Pennsylvania to Ephrata. These Rosicrucian communities made valuable contributions to the newly emerging American culture in the fields of printing, philosophy, the sciences, and arts. Later such eminent Americans as Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine were intimately connected with the Rosicrucian community. In fact, many Rosicrucians played an important role in the great alchemical and social process leading to the founding of a new nation.
Link below:-
https://www.amorc.org/history


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Neuf_Sœurs


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Richard's_Almanack
 
Monk

Monk

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Hi David,
If you are looking for "Skeleton's in Benjamin Franklin's Cupboard" perhaps link below will make you laugh:-
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...nklins-basement-filled-with-skeletons-524521/
He also visited "The Hell Fire Club":-
Benjamin Franklin is known to have occasionally attended the club's meetings during 1758 as a non-member during his time in England. However, some authors and historians would argue Benjamin Franklin was in fact a spy. As there are no records left (having been burned in 1774[29]), many of these members are just assumed or linked by letters sent to each other.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club
 
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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Hi David

I did write about Benjamin Franklin, my comments are below, the other question please hold fire on, i need to get through the the list of Presidents first:-

It looks like that Ben Franklin obviously was a Freemason, but i didn't know he was a Rosicrucian?
Quote below:-
Crossing the Atlantic

In the late seventeenth century, following a plan originally proposed by Francis Bacon in The New Atlantis, a colony of Rosicrucian leaders was organized to establish the Rosicrucian arts and sciences in America. In 1694 Rosicrucian settlers made the perilous journey across the Atlantic Ocean in a specially chartered vessel, the Sarah Maria, under the leadership of Johannes Kelpius, master of a Rosicrucian Lodge in Europe. Landing in Philadelphia, the colonists established their first settlement and later moved further west in Pennsylvania to Ephrata. These Rosicrucian communities made valuable contributions to the newly emerging American culture in the fields of printing, philosophy, the sciences, and arts. Later such eminent Americans as Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine were intimately connected with the Rosicrucian community. In fact, many Rosicrucians played an important role in the great alchemical and social process leading to the founding of a new nation.
Link below:-
https://www.amorc.org/history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Neuf_Sœurs


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Richard's_Almanack
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Hi Monk :smile:

 While in England, Ben Franklin may have been a member of
a secret underground society known as the Hellfire Club.

by the way

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia spent his final hours
in the company of members of a secret society for elite hunters.
International Order of St. Hubertus
was incorporated by Count Anton von Sporck in 1695
and was originally intended to gather
“...the greatest noble hunters of the 17th Century
particularly in Bohemia, Austria

and countries of the Austro Hungarian Empire

ruled by the Habsburgs...” official website.

After the organization denied membership to Nazis
notably military leader Hermann Goering
Hitler dissolved it, but the order reemerged after World War II
and an American chapter was founded in the late 1960s.
The order is just one of many clandestine organizations that exist today,
though the popularity of these secret clubs peaked in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Back then, many of these societies served as safe spaces
for open dialogue about everything from academia to religious discourse,
removed from the restrictive eye of the church and state.
Schatman writes: "....These societies were the incubators of democracy,
modern science, and ecumenical religion.
They elected their own leaders
and drew up constitutions to govern their operations.

It wasn’t an accident that
Voltaire, George Washington, and Ben Franklin were all active members :smile:

And just like today’s networked radicals
much of their power was wrapped up in
their ability to stay anonymous
and keep their communications secret ..."

The emphasis on secret was what inspired so much distrust
in the exclusive clubs. No less than the New York Times
said in 1880, not wholly dismissing the theory that

“...Freemasonry brought about the civil war
and acquitted President Johnson and…
has committed or concealed crimes without number
This able theory of Freemasonry is not so readily believed
as the theory that the European secret societies
are the ruling power in Europe, but
there are still many people as yet outside the lunatic asylum
who firmly believe it....”

Many religious leaders felt conflicted about secret orders
In 1887, Reverend T. De Witt Talmage
wrote his sermon on “....the moral effect of Free Masonry,
Odd Fellowship, Knights of Labor, Greek Alphabet and other Societies....”
The reverend said he had: “....hundreds of personal friends
who belonged to orders...”
used Proverbs 25: 9 "...discover not a secret to another...”
to ask his audience to question
whether or not being a member of a secret society
would be a positive or negative decision for them.
Meanwhile, that same week,

Cardinal James Gibbons took a more definitive stand on secret orders,
saying that they had “...no excuse for existence....”


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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
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While the Sprague family in Rhode Island was certainly notable for their political power, it was through Harold Sprague’s mother that the family is connected to its most influential relatives. As Harold learned through his research, his mother’s side of the family could trace their lineage all the way back to Joseph Adams (1654-1736). Joseph was the uncle of founding father and statesman, Samuel Adams. Even more directly, Joseph’s grandson was John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. John Adams served as vice-president under George Washington from 1789-1797 before being elected president in 1797, serving one term. He was greatly influential as a political thinker and was one of the original signers of the Declaration of Independence. His political legacy was carried on by his son John Quincy Adams, who served as the 6th President of the United States from 1825-1829. He then had a long career as a representative in Congress (1831-1848), winning reelection eight times!
https://nationalheritagemuseum.typepad.com/library_and_archives/john-quincy-adams/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States

To Save dispute we can say John Quincy Adams was a honorary member of the Knight's Hospitallers or the Knights Templar by being an American Ambassador and being a member of "The Middle Temple" In Lincolns Inn in London.
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Hi Monk :smile:

In the United States in the late-19th century
there was enough national uproar against secret societies
that one concerned group created
an annual “...Anti-Secret Society Convention....”
In 1869, at the national convention in Chicago
the attendees went after the “secular press.”

The organisations secretary said that the Press
"....either approved
or
ignored
secret societies...”
while
“...few religious papers
have spunk enough to come out for Christ
in opposition to Masonry....”

But by 1892, the group,
which deemed the societies
an "....evil to society
and a menace to our civil institutions..."
had failed
to “....secure them anything but strong denunciation...”
as the Pittsburgh Dispatch commented.

meanwhile

The Da Vinci Code novelist Dan Brown
and his contemporaries
have highlighted some of the bigger secret fraternal organizations
such as the Order of Skull and Bones, Freemasons
Rosicrucians and the Illuminati, there are still other
lesser-known groups that have compelling stories of their own.

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Monk

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JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Andrew Jackson was the 7th President, picture of him below:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...s#/media/File:Grand_Master_Andrew_Jackson.jpg


I thought another interesting story is how Junius Brutus Booth
(the father of John Wilkes Booth)
threatened to assassinate Andrew Jackson.
He wrote to him on 4th July 1835,
an auspicious date for deaths of Presidents!
https://hankeringforhistory.com/junius-brutus-booth-letter-threatening-president-jackson/
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HIi Monk :smile:
sirius co-incidence he wrote threatening Andrew Jackson 4th July that year

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Monk

Monk

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Hi Jup,
I can't find anything about the 8th President, perhaps you can do a search regarding Martin Van Buren.
Perhaps secret societies didn't like him as Skull and Bones Society is rumoured to have stolen his skull:-


One unsubstantiated rumour has it that The Tomb houses the stolen skulls of eighth president Martin van Buren (1782-1862), Mexican revolutionary Pancho Villa (1878-1923) and Apache warrior Geronimo (1829-1909) - this last act of grave-robbing allegedly carried out by Prescott Bush, George HW's father, in 1918 - while others centre around its supposed ambitions for world domination.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ociety-us-president-dubya-kerry-a8340596.html


While some may laugh, a skull and bones used as a ballot Box came up for auction a few years back:-
https://elitechoice.org/01/yales-skull-bones-soc-has-items-on-sale-at-christies.html
 
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