article on SR Part of Fortune

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scarlett

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Hey,
I just came accross with this article in internet:
http://www.signe-astrology.com/2005fallnewsletter.html
It talks about Part of Fortune and its position in SR and its importance. Especially scary the final part of the article where it describes the 8th and 6th houses and the PoF being there... I must admit it scared me since my 2011 SR Part of Fortune lays in the SR 8th HOuse.

Do you actually give credit to this? What is your view?
scarlett.
 
JUPITERASC

JUPITERASC

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scarlett said:
Hey,
I just came accross with this article in internet:
http://www.signe-astrology.com/2005fallnewsletter.html
It talks about Part of Fortune and its position in SR and its importance. Especially scary the final part of the article where it describes the 8th and 6th houses and the PoF being there... I must admit it scared me since my 2011 SR Part of Fortune lays in the SR 8th HOuse.

Do you actually give credit to this? What is your view?
scarlett.
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 Interesting link, thanks scarlett I just read it. Intriguing that this person claims they are the only astrologer who teaches this technique... Why is that?!

My question is, how can anyone be certain that even if Peter Jennings had 'taken a Solar Return Trip he would not have died anyhow? Why not say as well that if JFK had taken a Solar Return Trip he would not have been assassinated! There simply is no way of proving that or that Peter Jennings would not have died.

Reading the article, it is clear that this person is attempting to scare readers into becoming potential customers – it's a great scam because if the customer believes this and goes on a 'Solar Return Trip' and lives to tell the tale, then the claim is made that 'their life was saved' and the customer feels happy because they believe their life has been saved – but the customer could have lived anyhow even if they stayed home for their Solar Return.

Alternatively, if the customer goes on a Solar Return Trip and dies they are not likely to ask for their money back are they!

The whole rationale of a Solar Return chart is that it lasts for one year and one year only, until the next Solar Return.

The natal chart determines the natal promise, therefore a Solar Return chart can only indicate what is promised in a natal chart.

The PoF (Part of Fortune) is also located in every natal chart and the natal promise is the most influential.

Link to interesting article by Ray Austin on the Education Board on PoF and how to interpret it http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13197 and a link to how to interpret a Solar Return Chart written by Starlink who says at the beginning of the article “A Solar Return chart is a chart made for only one year in the life. It is a very personal way to see how transits will relate to your natal chart and especially the personal planets give an important insight in how they work out this year.” http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17763 :smile:
 
julia

julia

Well-known member
scarlett said:
Hey,
I just came accross with this article in internet:
http://www.signe-astrology.com/2005fallnewsletter.html
It talks about Part of Fortune and its position in SR and its importance. Especially scary the final part of the article where it describes the 8th and 6th houses and the PoF being there... I must admit it scared me since my 2011 SR Part of Fortune lays in the SR 8th HOuse.

Do you actually give credit to this? What is your view?
scarlett.
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I think that astrologers must be careful of their predictions. I also think that astrology describes trends and can not say what it is going to happen for sure at someone's live. This is not astrology... Phrases that something will definitely happen do not belong to astrology.
 
astrologer50

astrologer50

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julia said:
I think that astrologers must be careful of their predictions. I also think that astrology describes trends and can not say what it is going to happen for sure at someone's live. This is not astrology... Phrases that something will definitely happen do not belong to astrology.
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Well said, I agree

All solar returns (and natal charts) are about ‘potential’ as is the natal chart, but we don’t always fulfil our potential, whether it’s due to ‘other people or unforeseen circumstances’ or a choice of two things and maybe possibly making different choices meant you didn’t fulfil that potential in this Solar return.

I don't read SR's as stand alone cos you can get far more information from bi wheel, it can give a natal planet an opening or expression by conjuncting SR Asc or MC for example and any SR planets conj natal planets are important to.

when selecting a solar return chart from astro in Extended chart selection it's important to select 2nd option 'with houses' as this will put the degree onto planets and Angles --

http://cafeastrology.com/interpretingsolarreturns.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17763
http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Solar_Return_Chart
http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html
http://www.skyviewzone.com/solarreturn.htm

“The house in which the Sun falls in the SR chart is the birthday month's forecast and influence, and each house after is the following month, since the Sun transits at the rate of one sign or house per month. Each house is treated as events in that month, and the sign and planet ruling the cusp influences the outlook for that month. The chart is used like a clock, writh 12 months on its face instead of 12 hours. As the Sun conjoins or aspects other planets in the SR, it will generate events”
http://www.typhonvision.com/art-solarreturn.htm

Lastly, for something 'major' to happen, it should also be reflected in your transits, progressions and possibly solar arcs. So don't ignore these methods in favour of JUST solar returns

The house in which the Sun falls in the SR chart is the birthday month's forecast and influence, and each house after is the following month, since the Sun transits at the rate of one sign or house per month. Each house is treated as events in that month, and the sign and planet ruling the cusp influences the outlook for that month. The chart is used like a clock, with 12 months on its face instead of 12 hours. As the Sun conjoins or aspects other planets in the SR, it will generate events
 
rafaella

rafaella

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I think its a load of bs....seriously. This astrologer keeps saying she is a 'professional astrologer' over and over again. She is trying to find more clients and scare people. If PoF was sooo important then more astrologers would have written about this.

In 2010 I had my SR PoF conjunct my SR 6th cusp in Taurus. I did not have any major health issues at all!!!

So don't worry... I think Pof in 8th house could point to money coming through other people - business or spouse...
 
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dr. farr

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I consider the POF VERY IMPORTANT, but NOT like the referenced author sees it, no way!! The POF can indicate significant difficulties in a given SR (or any other) chart, but mere house placement ALONE is but one of numerous factors, ONLY the totality of which will show potential difficulties connected with the ramifications of the POF.
 
astrologer50

astrologer50

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anyone for a bit of research then??

POF
http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpOVfJmEFH4
http://www.arlenekramer.net/astrology8.asp
last one is POF conj planets

“However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

“The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.”
http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

“The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html
just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots --
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
 
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