Will Trump become the first US Dictator?
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david starling
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I'd like Tikana to view it. Can you post in the Horary section?
I checked absentee versus mail-in. There's no longer any difference, since there's no longer a requirement that you would be unable to vote in person. Florida's been using about 30% mail-in for years, as have a lot of other States to some extent. That includes both Parties.
Each State uses the same method for validating mail-in ballots as for validating what are labeled "absentee" ballots .
Obviously, you might want to research the "mail-in" versus "absentee" differences yourself. If you do, please post what you've seen about it.
Here's something worrying me that you may know more about--the Democrats keep sending dire warnings that the Republicans, under Trump's leadership, are trying to eliminate the U.S.Postal Service. I wouldn't want that to happen, but I don't know if it's just anti-Trump propaganda or not.
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david starling
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I think the U.S. has been "muddling along" since it began, under the Constitution. LOTS of problems, including temporarily disastrous choices, and a LOT of "room for improvement" every step of the way. And, things have gradually improved in a lot of ways, from my point of view. I don't think we needed any drastic, precipitous changes, but a good "shake-up" was good for the country.
Trump has been good at shaking things up, but he's done that, and things have now reached the limit in that regard. I notice there's been a normal tendency to switch back and forth from one Party to the other in Presidential elections. One political science professor on a news panel predicted that, after 8 years of a Democrat as President, it was simply time for a Republican, no matter who it was, at a time when major media was claiming there was no way Trump could win. He was actually laughed at by the other panelists for predicting a Trump Presidency on that basis alone.
There have been two one-term Presidents in the not-too-distant-past, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, so it's not all that unusual.Things really have gotten too acrimonious, and Trump could always come back after four years of a Democrat, and run again, if Biden's Presidency proves to be extremely unsuccessful.
Trump has been good at shaking things up, but he's done that, and things have now reached the limit in that regard. I notice there's been a normal tendency to switch back and forth from one Party to the other in Presidential elections. One political science professor on a news panel predicted that, after 8 years of a Democrat as President, it was simply time for a Republican, no matter who it was, at a time when major media was claiming there was no way Trump could win. He was actually laughed at by the other panelists for predicting a Trump Presidency on that basis alone.
There have been two one-term Presidents in the not-too-distant-past, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, so it's not all that unusual.Things really have gotten too acrimonious, and Trump could always come back after four years of a Democrat, and run again, if Biden's Presidency proves to be extremely unsuccessful.
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leomoon
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There are many online from 2016 onward promoting Russia & Trump - I don't think that has changed much...going into this Election. Actually, they are telling us its true - those who track such things. (SIC, FBI, etc)
Trump's poll numbers have fallen drastically since April. The abysmal lack of leadership with Covid19 - the out of control numbers in most States, Sending people back to their jobs too early - all hurt them and the economy. Its getting worse for trump, not better. The "Plutonian" noose seems to be tightening along with Saturn on his chart. The Russian "pay for military bounty scandal" hasn't helped him, although Putin is doing GREAT!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...GWzBQ_VMFpS5rXe61NCAkB1r9kvXr0uq-RRABAS9qD6Qw
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...OKEy6bN6TL350rlRnLWCgaDdLMasB0s1rlnRIjeOmHQt0
david starling
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"Anti-Hillary" votes are no longer a factor either. Most of the Russian influence on the 2016 Election was about demonizing HRC, and was very effective in doing that. "Collusion" with the Trump campaign entirely aside, the Russian interference itself is generally accepted as fact now, even by Fox News.
aquarius7000
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3.5 yrs filled with examples - in the current position. I will let you inform yourself on your own because frankly that will be very time-consuming and cumbersome, esp. considering the language in the quote tells me that perhaps the mind is already made up. So let me just say: to each their own.
leomoon
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Last Paragraph first: - Actually, he has options opened to him, depending upon his ego which is massive to quit first. He could do as Nixon did, and hand the office over to his V.P. Pence. Trump knows this because he took extra care to study up on Nixon's trial and impeachment. Nixon had V.P. Ford become President for the remainder of his term in exchange for a full Pardon which was granted prior to leaving office.
That is one option he has opened. Many are mulling this over in the GOP party and no doubt at Fox, they've talked to him about it as well as his chances. But he knows he still has time on his side.
Regarding the highly valued Freedom of Speech. Americans both bright, (smart and dumb), all realize we have this very special ability to speak our minds under our Constitution Limits. (A limit for example might be to yell Fire in a crowded theater. There are limitations) Theaters usually have only 1 exit (or did in the older days), ...
Many are today arguing they should not wear a face mask if they don't want to, but it may indeed come under this same type of exclusion from the Freedom of expressing oneself - as long as it doesn't HARM others which of course exempting Face Masks would be doing say the scientists.
Bottom line, there are limitations. The "whole" must be considered sometimes, before the "self".
Dirius
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3.5 yrs filled with examples - in the current position. I will let you inform yourself on your own because frankly that will be very time-consuming and cumbersome, esp. considering the language in the quote tells me that perhaps the mind is already made up. So let me just say: to each their own.
So your answer is you can't even name one example.
Nice.
I've got all day to wait in line and that is exactly what I will be doing.
Amazon is what is tanking the usps. Considering 75% of usps was from Amazon and since they have already been bailout once. POTUS said charge more for amazon or else no deal. So amazon went with their in-house delivery system. Mail in and absentee is two different animals. 5 states send out automatically ballots absentee is requested as for those who are out of the state/country disable jailed out. For reasonable reasons.
Dirius
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+1
The only people who like socialism, are those who have never lived under socialism.
There is a reason people flee communist countries.
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aquarius7000
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So your answer is that you have not been cognizant of what has been happening in the US for 3.5 years, and expect me to educate you about it through examples in a post.
Ignorance must be so blissful. Nice
Dirius
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So your answer is that you have not been cognizant of what has been happening in the US for 3.5 years, and expect me to educate you about it through examples in a post.
Ignorance must be so blissful. Nice
You made the claim. Show the evidence to back it up.
You said there are numerous examples of Trump being "dictatorial".
Name one.
Just one example.
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david starling
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Dirius, is Elena's question a good candidate for a Horary reading?
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david starling
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He wanted to take an unscheduled walk to an historic Church, to pose for a photo op holding up a bible. He used violent force against peaceful protesters to clear the way for him, like any dictator would.
No, David, they are not the same thing.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/absentee-ballot-vs-mail-in-ballot/
An absentee ballot is specifically requested by the voter, and in most cases a reason must be given for the request.
A mail-in is mailed haphazardly to all names on the voting register, including MIA and deceased. And not sent by registered mail.
That is why many Americans are opposed to it.
About Biden, have you seen any recent videos of him? He is in the early stages of dementia. They can't keep him hidden always and when they pull him out it becomes obvious to all. Which is why they are selecting the VP candidate carefully, should he be elected the VP will step in within a year, because he won't be able to function.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/absentee-ballot-vs-mail-in-ballot/
An absentee ballot is specifically requested by the voter, and in most cases a reason must be given for the request.
A mail-in is mailed haphazardly to all names on the voting register, including MIA and deceased. And not sent by registered mail.
That is why many Americans are opposed to it.
About Biden, have you seen any recent videos of him? He is in the early stages of dementia. They can't keep him hidden always and when they pull him out it becomes obvious to all. Which is why they are selecting the VP candidate carefully, should he be elected the VP will step in within a year, because he won't be able to function.
david starling
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aquarius7000
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David provided the example. One example. Just one example amongst many.
Further, https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-election-t-shirt-nazi-1514950
that is his inspiration. People like Erdogan, Putin and Kim Jong Un are the sort of leaders he looks up to.
Thing is I am not looking to convince anybody here. I am just very surprised at certain people on this forum I held in high stead thru their astrology posts, but their thought process and their impressions of trump are very telling of what they are about as human beings.