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So I guess what you’re saying is despite my signs my aspects kinda make up for it, which brings me to my Next question do aspects matter what sign they’re in like would a water mercury trine mars in be as efficient in water signs instead of air? I know about aspects but I know some people consider certain aspects to be weaker in certain signs, for example I’ve had people tell me the water in my chart softens my aries.
Some questions.
Who are the people that tell you water "softens" your Aries?
What is meant by "soften"?
What is the source of that claim? (Authors, chart practice, memeplex)
Do you take them at their word? If so, why?
Do you actually have the traits that these individuals describe? If so, are they dominant traits in your personality?
What is the minimum amount of water influence needed to make a chart "watery" and hence liable to be "softened"? Is it the Sun in a water sign? 2 personal planets? 3? A grand trine? A stellium? The ascendant? What?
What I'm saying is not that your aspects "kinda" make up for supposed "water weakness". I'm questioning whether what is stated to be "water characteristics" is really so, or if there is any actual basis to what you've heard.
Since you haven't really defined exactly what you meant regarding waters ability to soften, I've read between the lines and have come up with a general idea of what I think you mean. In light of that, here are example charts (of real people who you can verify) that can be described as "watery" according to modern astrological standard. Based on these individuals, can you say that they lacked for the kind of efficiency and "hardiness" that the water possessed can't possibly attain?
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Heydrich,_Reinhard
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Washington,_George
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ramirez,_Ricardo
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Casanova,_Giacomo
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Patton,_George
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ramsay,_Gordon
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Gacy,_John_Wayne
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Lee,_Bruce
Here are other examples, which one might describe as the more soft outflow of a water dominant. However, these two examples are/were at the Pinnacle of their field. To attain an elite level of any human endeavor takes certain traits - and the weak tend not to ever get anywhere near the top. Grit, passion, patience, ceaseless energy, will, political savvy, a thick skin.
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kudaibergen,_Dimash
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Pope_Benedict_XVI
A pope and a singer. Do you think they lack for drive, efficiency or female attention? (Whether or not they can partake or even want to being another matter).
A major argument that some subscribe to is that the aspects take primacy over sign placement, since the positions of the planets remain constant no matter what zodiac is used. In fact, some branches of astrology dispense with signs altogether.
Something to mull over.