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New edition of Valens

I just caught the notice on Skyscript that Ile Spasev has been working with Mark Riley on a slightly improved new edition of his on-line translation of Vettius Valens, Anthologies, which are now available.

https://beyondtheheaven.files.wordpr...t-ed.-blue.pdf

https://beyondtheheaven.files.wordpr...-ed.-green.pdf

I don't know what is the difference between the blue and green copies, but hopefully you can find out.

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Re: New edition of Valens

At a first glance, it looks like the difference between the blue and green versions is the colors used on the title page and on the headings of the various sections. I guess they couldn't make up their minds between blue and green?
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That's good news Waybread!

But Capricorn is still...
QUOTE "...is the house of Saturn, feminine, tropic, earthy, destructive, barren, downward-trending,
chilling, mute, servile, the cause of troubles, brutal, lurking, mysterious, two-natured, moist, half–finished
[=childless?], a hunchback, lame, the Descendant of the universe, indicative of misfortune and toil, a
sculptor, a farmer. /11P/" END OF QUOTE

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Yeah, I know. Aquarius isn't much to write home about, either.
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Anyway Valens said it's nasty descriptions despite having some Capricorn placement [ie: Sun] himself. It show us how objective he is.

QUOTE: "I believe I have compiled the powers of the preceding <methods> in a sufficient, even generous,
fashion." END OF QOUTE

https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf

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Re: New edition of Valens

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Anyway Valens said it's nasty descriptions despite having some Capricorn placement [ie: Sun] himself.
It show us how objective he is.
QUOTE: "I believe I have compiled the powers of the preceding <methods> in a sufficient, even generous,
fashion." END OF QOUTE

https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
Exactly - Valens simply chronicled the writings of astrologers who preceded him by hundreds of years
Valens did alter or change anything - Valens remained objective
despite his own astrological placements
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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac

The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Goat-Horned One is feminine, nocturnal, changeable, watery, amphibian
servile, vocal, infertile, enigmatic, passionate, thievish, incomplete, missing limbs
two-natured, outrageous, sitting and of the south wind.
It indicates inquiries, accusations, separations, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Capricorn are small, burdened
deviant, lying, pretentious, inventive, unattractive, mysterious because the Goat-Horned One is unintelligible
curious, with sloping face, fine figure, beautiful black eyes, black hair, thick lips, sharp chin
lean, misfortunate, toilsome, unfortunate mistakes, lame, shameful, two-faced
pretending goodness and sincerity, always criticizing, fickle, brutal, criminal, warped
bad, fond of jokes, insomniacs, hunchbacks, sculptors, farmers, with nautical bent and waterside trades
lovers of pleasures, business expediters, initiates in mysteries, plotters of great deeds
and guardians of secret matters.
Domicile of Saturn, exaltation of Mars, depression of Jupiter, it controls the knees, the skeletal system
the lymphatic system and the immune system. It causes skin diseases on account of the rough skin
and blindness on account of the spine. It is like-empowered with Scorpio,
like-ascending with Aries and like-engriding with Aquarius, short in the Northern Hemisphere
and tall in the Southern Hemisphere. It is wintry, cold and moist for the north
and summery, hot and moist for the south. Capricorn obeys Taurus for the north
and commands it for the south. Capricorn controls India, Ariana, Gedrosia, Thrace, Macedonia and Illyria.

The front is rising up to the 7th degree, the head up to the 14th, the belly up to the 22nd
the back up to the 26th, and the tail up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - abdominal birth, dangers, intelligent
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, preservative power
The next 8° belong to Venus - luxury, passionate
The next 4° belong to Saturn - summons, harsh, authoritative
The final 4° belong to Mars - concealments, bonds, flights

Horns - Venus and moderately Mars
Mouth - Saturn and moderately Venus
Feet and Belly - Mars and Mercury
Tail - Saturn and Jupiter


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars
as made by our predecessors.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae:
accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri.
Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos.
William Heinmann, London.
Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages.
Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley.
Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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Aquarius isn't much to write home about, either.

Vettius Valens writing home about AQUARIUS


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Introduction to Hellenistic Astrology Part I - Zodiac


The zodiac completes a sidereal cycle in 23.93446 hours.


The image of the Water-Pourer is masculine, diurnal, solid, watery, human, servile, eloquent,
semi-infertile, handsome, standing and of the east wind.
It indicates inquiries, affairs, crafts, water and property.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler, men born under the influence of Aquarius
are burdened, envious, lying, occasionally generous because of the uncontrollable flow of the Water-Pourer,
craftsmen, public, mystical, youthful, delicate, with beautiful figure and eyes,
smooth hair, dizzy, beautiful manners, white, working with hard materials,
troubled by athletic training, artisans, wealthy, malicious, haters of their own families,
incorrigible, making living by waterside places, betrayers of reputation and truth,
accusers, haters of mankind, godless and uncontrollable.
Domicile of Saturn, it controls the lower legs, the skeletal system,
the lymphatic system and the immune system.
It causes blindness on account of the water.

It is like-empowered with Libra, like-ascending with Pisces and like-engirding with Capricorn,
short in the Northern Hemisphere and tall in the Southern Hemisphere.
It is wintry, cold and moist for the north, and summery, hot and dry for the south.
Aquarius obeys Aries for the north and commands it for the south.
Aquarius controls Sauromatica, Oxiana, Sogdiana, Arabia, Azania and Middle Ethiopia.
The left hand and the head are rising up to the 7th degree, the body and the right hand up to the 13th,
the pitcher up to the 20th, the water up to the 25th, and the falling water up to the 30th.

The first 7° belong to Mercury - mastery, lovers of wisdom
The next 6° belong to Venus - friendships with great women
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - notable, some are winners of games
The next 5° belong to Mars - lawsuits, injuries, some die violent deaths
The final 5° belong to Saturn - education, grief in youth

Shoulders, Left Arm and Cloak - Saturn and Mercury
Thighs - Mercury and moderately Saturn
Water - Saturn and moderately Jupiter


Such, then, are the observations of the effects of the stars as made by our predecessors. Let us now proceed with the seven-zone.

Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae: accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri. Retrieved from
https://archive.org/details/maximiet...00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...blos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages. Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from
https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt...s%20entire.pdf
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