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I read somewhere on this forum that someone said you can progress the Davison, but I'm not sure how.

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Re: Davison

The Davison Chart is calculated from an actual time and place ...[ie. the mid-points of the time/place of the two individual natal charts]...

This means that it is (technically) no different from any other natal chart, Kbell ...So it can be progressed in the same way as a natal chart ...(and/or used to calculate Solar/Saturn/Other Return Charts, or anything else that is derived from natal charts).
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Note : We cannot progress Composite Charts in the same way as natal charts...

because they are based on the mid-points of the planets in the two individual charts, which are not necessarily progressing at the same speed ...[For example, Mercury might be retrograde in one natal chart but direct in the other ...so their mid-point would not progress "normally"]...

Consequently ...(as Wintersprite1 explained to me on another thread) ...Composite Charts are progressed by first progressing the two individual charts, and then using their mid-points to produce a new (progressed) Composite Chart.

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...Composite Charts are progressed by first progressing the two individual charts, and then using their mid-points to produce a new (progressed) Composite Chart.
... as can be done through Astro.com (under Progressed Composite Chart, midpoint method).
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I read somewhere on this forum that someone said you can progress the Davison, but I'm not sure how.
You can progress practically everything, BUT the art is in the interpretations

Composites are more generally used for relationships, but a member on here uses them like Davison charts.....

Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PR16&dq=robert+hand+compo sites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=fal se

The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended

“The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other.The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm

“Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm

http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html
click on link to read full article

http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html



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theortically EJ has the right order but I would question the interpretations of composites and davision's cos some members here who specialises reads composites as if they were davison charts.

1) In composites I disregard planetary sign placements and instead focus on houses where the planets fall and on aspects. The composite Sun is the most important.
2) Aspects that occur in both natals and in the composite/davison will be psychological issues that need to be worked on in the relationship.
3) Aspects that occur in the composite but not in the natals are issues rising within the relationship that have not been dealt with before by either party.
4) In Davison the main difference is to look at sign placement, whilst ignore sign placement in the composite. Also look for sign strength and weakness, mutual reception, sole dispositors.
5) In both ‘composites’ and ‘Davisons’, look for midpoints that are conjoined by planets in either natal. In composites, these relationships seem to be referring to psychological issues, while in ‘Davidsons’, the midpoint relationships tend to refer to forces acting on the couple from outside the relationship.
6) Try putting your natal planets around the outside of either chart, to see who relates best to this relationship and who is gaining the most. This can be rather revealing
7) Also remember you can use transits over both these charts and again Angles are very sensitive points
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=180956&postcount=11
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Davison chart v Composite chart
“Important point! Both of these charts are for the two of you as a couple. They show things that will tend to happen in the relationship as well as how you act towards the outside world when you are together. They have no effect when you are apart
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/re...vidson26.0.htm

“Composite charts that has ascendant and midheaven agree in element will most closely describe the type of the relationship your partnership has formed. For instance a relationship that has Taurus on the Ascendant and Capricorn on the Midheaven will closely describe a “traditional” relationship. Those charts that do not agree will keep the element of the ascendant as the primary relationship style while incorporating the element of the Midheaven into the relationship. An analysis of the individual’s chart against the composite chart will show how his or her chart meshes with the composite chart and the style of the relationship”
http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/
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Re: Davison

Thank you for the detailed information. I've never really looked at the Davison chart much before, but now I find it really interesting.
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...I've never really looked at the Davison chart much before, but now I find it really interesting.
What is it about Davison Charts that has attracted your interest, Kbell?


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Re: Davison

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I like them because I tend to pay attention more to angles and signs and placements than aspects. I like looking at the sabian symbols for these charts. It's why you came together, right? I'm more interested in knowing the lessons and karma and what I need to do and or learn with this person than anything else. My interests in astrology pretty much are karmic astrology, natal, and Davison.

Also what's the best Davison chart to look at? Corrected or uncorrected?
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...I like them because ...it's "why you came together" ...(and)... I'm more interested in knowing the lessons and karma and what I need to do and or learn with this person than anything else.
Me too, Kbell.

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...what's the best Davison chart to look at? Corrected or uncorrected?
Astro.com explain this difference as follows :-

"The Medium Coeli (MC) computed for the time midpoint, which is the basis of the Davison chart, deviates very slightly (usually by less than 1 degree) from the composite MC (computed as the midpoint between the two personal MCs). The time correction applied to the standard Davison chart brings its MC into perfect alignment with the meridian axis of the composite chart. Most astrologers read the composite chart and the Davison chart together."

So (imo) the true/"pure" Davison Chart is uncorrected ...but in practice, I doubt that it makes any significant difference.

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Oh good because I've been using the uncorrected.
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